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Who is in on Tesla model 3 ?

By pinballrockstar

7 years ago


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“Are you in on the model 3?”

  • Hell yes! 57 votes
    15%
  • I am considering! 80 votes
    21%
  • Hard to part with fossil fuel 15 votes
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  • I don't care about my carbon footprint 88 votes
    23%
  • No 148 votes
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#451 6 years ago
Quoted from pezpunk:

i think you mean Volkswagon, but yeah. Diesel is just cursed in the USA -- in the rest of the world, it has been a staple for decades, and not just for trucks. other countries use diesel engines in their cars all the time and they work fine.
really this is GM's fault -- in the 70s, they developed an Oldsmobile diesel engine intended as a more fuel efficient option for use in their sedans, and it was a complete piece of shit. instead of designing a new engine, they took an existing unleaded fuel engine and converted it to diesel ... poorly. it had a tendency to blow head gaskets because it sucked at dealing with the higher compression ratios necessary for diesel. it rusted from the inside out due to lack of a water separator. its fuel pump seals, designed for unleaded, disintegrated. it belched smoke. it sounded like a garbage truck, and was about as quick and nimble as one too. even when it worked, it was still a V8 with 120hp. not exactly what you're looking for when you're buying a fancy new sedan.
in fact it was so god-awful that it single-handedly killed off the idea of diesel engines in the USA for anything other than heavy trucks, and its stigma lasted a good 30 years. really, diesels were just beginning to creep back into regular usage for cars, when the Volkswagon scandal hit.

Not a big deal, but the Diesel V8 was used in the Toronado, which was a two door coupe, not a sedan. My buddy had one.

When the engine eventually blew in the mid '80's, he put a gasoline engine in. Funny as hell to hear it start as the starter & flywheel was for a diesel. It spun like your Tesla's wheels do on acceleration.

8 months later
#1175 6 years ago

Tesla claimed they were going to be building 2500 Model 3's per week by Q3, 2017. Their best month was January, 2018. They built 1800 of them. They are hurting their vendors big-time.

#1177 6 years ago
Quoted from Brijam:

Where did you get that figure? I thought they don't release their monthly sales until the end of the quarter.

PM Sent

#1188 6 years ago
Quoted from rai:

Estimates at 1000 Model 3 per week and just over 7000 produced to date, not sure if this is accurate but if I'm tail end 250,000 number that's quite a while.
I do know one owner of S that passed on the chance to buy a new 3 he may have given the spot to a friend, but I am not sure of the particulars, and I was not interested to buy one at this exact moment, I have a sizable (but unknown) tax bill and a projected cash bonus in the near future so I need a few months to see exactly where I stand.
https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2018-tesla-tracker/

They have not built 500 model 3's in a week as of February 16, 2018. January, 2018 was their best Month to date with 1800 total. A far cry from the proclaimed 2500/week.

I have a vested interest in wanting them to immediately get to the 2500/ week number.

4 weeks later
#1248 6 years ago
Quoted from Brijam:

Because?
Give me one single example of an established corporation maintaining dominance in the face of a major disruptive technology. I've used digital cameras, e-commerce, mobile phones, movie rental, and music distribution as examples why Tesla and other startups will dominate the auto market. I have others. Give me your counter example. Any one will do.

AT&T.

#1250 6 years ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

In what way?
Internet: You also have comcast which may be a bigger player than AT&T seeing how they have merged with GE who owns NBC and universal. There are a gazillion other small ISP's (including wireless)
Cellular: You have verizon, sprint, t-mobile, dozens of pay-as-you phones (many of which piggyback on other carriers, but charge half the cost)
TV: I have uverse only because I refuse to sign up with comcast. I'm still considering cutting the cord with so many choices these days (youtube TV, hulu, sling, playstation vue)

Communications. All. They are a communications provider that has adapted to the disruptive technology that they became up against.

These small carriers buy from AT&T to provide service in areas where they cannot afford to install their own infrastructure.

Those companies that charge "half the cost" are getting exactly what they're worth. If AT&T's service is not worth what they charge, they would not be selling their services.

Do you really think that Ford, Toyota, GM(The current Company), Honda, FCA, Volkswagen group, and Hyundai are just gonna roll over and play dead. They don't need to have a PR man making bi-weekly claims of every move they are making regarding their own tactics & strategies.

I'm not saying Tesla won't remain viable and independent, I see that possibility at 70% in 5 years.

Not trying to get in a pissing contest.

#1273 6 years ago

I smell a pesky Lawsuit.....

3 weeks later
#1344 6 years ago
Quoted from pezpunk:

Tesla will be profitable and cash flow positive in Q3 and Q4, says Elon Musk
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-profitable-cash-flow-2018-elon-musk/

If his Tweets are scrutinized by the SEC, then that's PROOF POSITIVE for me!

1 month later
#1413 5 years ago

Yes. SAE Standard that identifies where a firefighter should cut the body to disconnect the battery from the rest of the vehicle during a rescue effort from a bad accident. Cutting in those areas cuts power cables which prevents the rescue crew from getting electrocuted.

#1416 5 years ago
Quoted from pinballrockstar:

What if that rear door doesn’t open after the crash?!

All doors that can open get opened and cuts are made where possible. Prius, Leafs and Volts have similar cut lines marked.

4 weeks later
#1442 5 years ago

Finally saw a Model 3 on the road for the first time yesterday.

I-94 Westbound near Kalamazoo, Michigan.

1 week later
#1499 5 years ago
Quoted from pezpunk:

Paying attention. You’ll know it too, in a few days.

Is that 5000 an octal number by chance?

#1530 5 years ago

Down fifty bucks a share in two days; Respectable....
Screaming buy.
Like General Electric.
Catch the falling knife.....

#1531 5 years ago

At 299.99 watch the margin call circuit breakers trip......

#1549 5 years ago
Quoted from Brijam:

At public locations, yes. I think employers will continue to add free charging stations to their employee parking. It's a super cheap perk that they get to crow about.

The place I retired from last year had two spaces (in a 700 space lot) Great when there was one or two employees with an EV. Once the 3rd employee bought one, it became a "race for the parking space" The COmpaNy would not add any spaces because the government subsidy was for two spaces only. And, the executive lots, with 40 & 60 spaces have zero EV's. The 40 upper managers get free cars and Tesla's are not part of the package. But Cadillac V's, Audi's (only up to an A6 for VP's) BMW 5's and Porsche Macan's are part of the free car deal.

#1551 5 years ago

We have a winner! Fell to $296.22 today.

#1556 5 years ago
Quoted from jayhawkai:

So you're shorting it, right?

I'd love to, but I am not qualified to have a margin acCOuNt with my firm.

#1559 5 years ago
Quoted from jayhawkai:

If you're CONfident about Tesla, you can buy long-term puts without using margin.

No thanks. Every time I played the Options game, I lost my ass.

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#1587 5 years ago

Big news today. It's good when a company asks its' suppliers for money back on purchase orders sent and previously accepted, correct?

#1590 5 years ago
Quoted from Brijam:

It’s not at all unusual to renegotiate a multi-year contract in progress.

Long-term supply agreements are your honor in the Automotive component industry. Both ways. Surcharges for certain raw materials (Steel, copper, reins etc) adjustments can be worded into supply agreements before both parties sign.

If a buyer can buy a like component for less before the agreement runs out, They usually contact the supplier and give them an agreed to in advance time to respond. Usually 60-90 days. Most safety-related components need 1-2 years to be qualified.

If what the WSJ article states is true, this sounds more like a money grab attempt.

#1594 5 years ago
Quoted from jalpert:

Maybe the automotive component industry needs some new rules...

Maybe they don't.

#1598 5 years ago

The Ford Tesla co-operative.....

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#1617 5 years ago

If Tesla will not sell service parts to a vehicle owner, count me out as a potential customer until that changes.

#1626 5 years ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

Not exactly. If your car is under warranty, or is deemed road worthy they will sell you part (hence why they ask for a VIN number when you call customer service). And I get them not wanting a bunch of rogue mechanics fixing salvaged cars and either causing an accident (making tesla look bad), or perhaps they end up messing up a public charge station because of a faulty wire. I think what rich is trying to do is push for more certified mechanics, or some way of paying a shop to perform a diagnostic to check that his repair is kosher, not just lock him out and let any broken tesla to just sit and rot in a junkyard.

Good to know, So if I owned a Tesla and broke/scratched up the power window switch assembly on the Driver's door. Not a warranty repair. I want to buy the part & replace it myself. Currently, (and probably always) there are no service centers/parts departments in Michigan. The car has to be taken /Shipped to Cleveland from where I live. I repair all of my vehicles myself.
Thanks

#1627 5 years ago
Quoted from Brijam:

You were never going to be a customer, dude. You've been bashing them since day one.

That's an unsubstantiated lie. Besides, they are a customer of mine.

#1629 5 years ago
Quoted from jalpert:

Why would they want to do business with someone that hates them so much? Why would you?

Hate is such a strong word. I just dislike being lied to. They sure talked big when setting up the supply agreement for the 3. As far as me, percentage of sales revenue of components may have something to do with it. Follow the money.

As for them doing business with my organization, we make the best product and supplied them fastest with PPAP samples. The product performed better than the competition. As was promised and expected.

#1656 5 years ago
Quoted from Brijam:

Haha, maybe you're thinking of Super Sprint, where you must spin the wheel to win. You shouldn't ever spin the wheel at Pole Position. I played the hell out of both back in the day.

I used to repair them on Route back in the day. Same basic opto encoder on Pole Position, Sprint and Sprint 2, Fire Fighter etc.

#1761 5 years ago

There were solar panel and small wind generator retailers for homes in the USA in the mid-late '70's. They were all gone by 1985.

#1805 5 years ago
Quoted from robertmee:

I've read estimates of 70 billion is necessary to go private. Musk says in his email he's not planning to own more than the 20% he owns now, so that still leaves about 56 billion to finance. If all shareholders stay put, do the public shares convert to private shares and he needs no money? So if 20% of share holders stay, then is the buyout capital reduced by that 20%. The Saudis now own 5% and it's rumored that's the source if his backing. So reduce the capital needed by another 5%. Might not be as much needed, but I have no idea how public to private conversion works so that's just speculation on my part. If it's true that the Saudis are going to be the financiers, how is that structured? Do they become majority owner? Are they converting the public shares into their own private shares, or into private shares that are distributed a different way? Dell similarly converted to a private company but I believe that was through a small investment group. I don't think current share holders were given the option to hold shares in the private company. Right or wrong, certainly a bold announcement....will be interesting how it plays out. I hope Tesla doesn't fail...it's an American company. But I'm almost starting to believe a CEO change is needed. Somebody to bring some stability to the company.

Current shareholders receive a check for their shares when they tender them. If they do not properly fill out the required transmittal form(s), they get nothing and the shares stop trading. The redemption value is fixed ( maybe the tweeted value of $420.00) so eventually, when tendered, an individual shareholder gets $420.00/share. No adjustment for inflation nor any dividend payments. Taxes are due on the gains (vs. Offset) for the tax year the gain was earned.

#1807 5 years ago
Quoted from robertmee:

That's if they tender them....but per the tweets Musk hopes everyone remains a shareholder...so let's say 100% of all shareholders want to convert their holding to a private share. How does that work? Is the billions of financial funding still required or is it just a paper swap? That's what I'm not understanding. Sorry in advance if that is an idiotic question.

If the public shares, which are governed by SEC rules are not tendered, they are worth the tender offer price. No matter how long one waits. No dividends paid, no interest paid nor inflation adjustment.
Wait long enough and the shares are considered redeemed, cancelled, proceeds drawn and sent to the state treasurer of the shareholders last known address. Had this happen as my late dad had some Hilton Hotels stock in certificate form who went private. That was a nice bonus.

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#1885 5 years ago
Quoted from Brijam:

You think. When has a board /ever/ physically locked a CEO out of their offices?

May 6, 2013. Meritor, Inc. (NYSE: MTOR) Hilarious. Security escort waiting.

#1890 5 years ago
Quoted from AAAV8R:

“feel” vs. LEGAL
As CEO, you cannot just DO things based upon feelings.
All of us “feel” justified in doing a lot of things on a daily basis. But we don’t take action because we know that many of them are illegal. It is no different in the world of corporate governance.
The problem with what he did goes beyond potential monetary damages. Now potential investors and lenders go from a “maybe” to a “no thanks”. Increased risk affects bond ratings. This list goes on.
For this reason, I expect Musk to be removed as CEO. That clears up some of the latter issues I mentioned. However, Tesla will still be on the hook for monetary damages should the SEC and courts find violations.

I agree, he will resign or be removed. This is textbook stuff. Fines galore will take the stock price down further. Then Lawsuits against Musk and the BoD's will follow.

However, these lawsuits for breach of fiduciary duty will likely result in nothing except Lawyers making a killing.

#1896 5 years ago
Quoted from Brijam:

Good thing it doesn’t cost them more to /make/ the cars, as has been covered here about a dozen times.
Independent groups have torn down the Model 3 and the parts cost is $18,000 with $10,000 in assembly costs. Do the math on the profits on a $55,000 car. Ford’s average profit per car is $800.

Does Tesla have to pay anything for R&D, Capital, Tooling, Legal fee reserves, taxes, amortization costs?

#1901 5 years ago
Quoted from Brijam:

No, they get that all for free, part of their trajillion dollar subsidy from the federal government. /s
I said they were in /debt/ because of the investments they're making. Their profits are more than enough to cover SG&A, etc. And I specifically called our research as contributing to their debt. But asking you to read is too much I guess?
What's your point, anyway?

My point is that there is not $27K in profit per $55K Model 3 as you eluded to.

You are mistaken it you think Ford only makes $800.00 Per vehicle manufactured. They also fund many other things with their revenue. So does Tesla.

#1911 5 years ago
Quoted from Brijam:

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.”
― Upton Sinclair

Buggy whip quote. Made aboot eighty years ago before the the space age or even jet age.
He's been dead for fifty years.

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#2001 5 years ago
Quoted from Nilroc:

Rubberducks go back to the other thread where you can talk about your unsubstantiated bs.
Look at the facts! Tesla is doing just fine! Model 3 is the 5th best selling sedan in the USA. Their sales have beaten BMW's entire line for the month of August.
Their growth has been crazy good the last few months. Just wait til you see numbers at the end of the quarter! Tesla is going nowhere! Deal with it.
Competition is at least 3 years behind Tesla. By the time they introduce their models Tesla will be introducing Base Model 3,Model Y and then The Roadster.
Majority of people love the cars Tesla build. Two of the top 5 trade ins for Model 3 Are Honda Accord and Honda Civic. Those cars are 1/2 the cost of the model 3!
As for the share price. That will rebound when the 3rd quarter numbers come in. I just don't get why there are people that are against Tesla. This BEV movement is real and is happening. It's just a matter of time.

Let me know when Tesla outsells Honda for a month. Just in the USA if you want. Since two Honda models are most traded for the Almighty Tesla line and Tesla has sold more than all BMW's (Whatever those to links are supposed to mean).
Or, let's look world-wide at sales of Tesla and BMW. Or Honda.
Let me know.

#2004 5 years ago
Quoted from Nilroc:

Mr. Bally,
Tesla is a small automotive company that is growing leaps and bounds. Those markets are coming next year.
Did you not hear that Tesla is building a plant in Shanghai? There not going to be producing cars forever out of Fremont.
If Tesla was not disrupting do you really think all the other auto manufacturers would be scrambling to get their cars out.
Come on get real man.

I am being real. I know quite a bit aboot their global plans and footprint.You mentioned how they are outselling all of BMW's product line. then you mention how certain Hondas are being the most traded in vehicle for Tesla's. Maybe you can add a 4th dimension to this to further strengthen your case.

#2014 5 years ago
Quoted from Brijam:

Yeah man, move the goalposts. Now they have to outsell Honda for them to be successful? Give me a fucking break.
Here's some facts. Tesla, in the month of August sold more passenger vehicles than:
Audi – 20,907
Mercedes-Benz – 20,339
Acura – 15,072
Chrysler – 12,219
Infiniti – 10,796
Volvo – 8,970
Mitsubishi – 8,416
Porsche – 4,083
Jaguar – 2,469
https://insideevs.com/tesla-outsold-brands-us-august/

You give me a Fucking break. I wasn't even talking to you. Nilroc said that Tesla outsold BMW and that two Honda models are most traded for Teslas. I am addressing that. Let's go with Audi then. Tesla sells more cars than Audi now according to you. If Audi's are most traded for Teslas, than Audi might be in trouble. Audi is just fine. The Germans are not stupid.

I haven't seen Hans Dieter Poetsch on a YouTube video taking a toke. Yet anyway.

#2018 5 years ago
Quoted from Nilroc:

Hey Mr. Bally,
Research from your own hometown. Read it and weep. No full gasoline car I know gets 55mpg or in the case of Canada with pure Hydro Electric Power 169 mpg.
This is the reason the change is happening. We can't go on polluting the atmosphere with gas and especially Diesel cars and trucks running around.
https://news.umich.edu/emissions-worldwide-gas-vs-battery-electric-vehicles/

I have nothing to weep aboot. My company sells the same parts to BMW and Audi that they do to Tesla. Only Tesla pays more since their quantities are smaller. Plus, the Non-North America stuff is sold through our offices & plants overseas so I don't get credit for those sales. Any transfer from the Europe division or from a competitor that sells to Honda is a plus to me.

I didn't realize Canada was pure hydro power for electricity. I recall it being the majority though.

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#2104 5 years ago

Only down $35/share, so far.

#2105 5 years ago

Plus he's under DOJ review.
Maybe he should CONsider changing his name. Just add an F to the front of his first name.......

#2106 5 years ago
Quoted from Fytr:

It's a civil suite against Musk alone, not Tesla. "Civil Action No. 1:18-cv-8865".

Even worse for him and Tesla. Where will the fines & restitution come from?

#2121 5 years ago
Quoted from crwjumper:

I think back to when Steve Jobs was forced to step down from his position at Apple.
Whatever happened to that company anyway?

Did he manipulate Apple's share price or get charged with committing a Felony?

#2157 5 years ago

In other news, I saw a Model 3 on I-96 near downtown Detroit this past Friday evening. It's been a few weeks since I saw any Tesla on the road here and between Detroit & Chicago.

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#2225 5 years ago

Saw this at the Cosmopolitan Resort in Las Vegas yesterday and thought of a particular Tesla owner....

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#2232 5 years ago
Quoted from oktobernv:

Just ordered a Model S
P100D
Loaded
21 Inch Rims....
Red
Carbon Fiber
Should have her in about 4 weeks
Juiced!!

Rob

Nice. Just got back home from the G2E show. One of my friends who used to live in Green Valley and moved to Reno has the same vehicle. He loves it. He has always owned Porsche, Audi or Mercedes vehicles. It's his first American car. The superchargers along I-80 work perfect for his trips to San Francisco.

He's toured the Gigafactory in Reno and was quite impressed.

2 months later
#2413 5 years ago
Quoted from Richthofen:

What got those companies in trouble was a global economic slowdown and massive financialization. GM was a derivatives/finance/loan company with a car division at that point.

Around here we would say the GM was a Pension and Health Care insurance provider that also manufactured motor vehicles.

1 month later
#2548 5 years ago

While in Reno, Supercharge your Tesla and try your luck at the Atlantis Casino-Resort-Spa. I never saw those small chargers poles on the right in the across Virginia Ave. pic.

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#2554 5 years ago
Quoted from goatdan:

Cool! First photo is Superchargers, second is destination charging for anyone that doesn't know. Destination is like 35 mph but good for when you're sleeping overnight!

Thanks for That, I learned something today.

1 month later
#2639 5 years ago

How we Lookin' Today?

Quoted from pinster68:

I was so inspired by the news I bought another chunk of their stock.

Quoted from Nilroc:

Good move! Should hit $500.00 shortly.

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#2644 5 years ago

It's a buying opportunity......

#2648 5 years ago
Quoted from Atari_Daze:

Just like Boeing!

Look at the long term average price of BA. I wouldn't buy any even down $60.00 from the high.

Disclosure: long in BA as I received shares when Rockwell sold their aerospace division to Boeing.

#2660 5 years ago
Quoted from ktownhero:

Also, keep in mind that they have never spent a dime yet on marketing... None. Never a single ad run anywhere. If/when they decide they are ready to aggressively eat up market share, they can just by investing modestly in advertising. It's kind of funny how these articles never mention that. They have hundreds of thousands of cars on the road worldwide by effing word of mouth.

If it wasn't Tesla's Marketing budget; what budget was used for Tesla's display at the 2015 North American International Auto Show in Detroit? Or the 2018 LA Auto Show?

#2669 5 years ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

im at about that, but we are heavily taxed so its closer to 20 cents a kwh

Gotta love Commonwealth Edison/Exelon and Illinois taxes.

#2672 5 years ago
Quoted from StrangeSubset1:

$4.39 per Gallon in SoCal as of today!!!
And I just drive by grinning .

Just now in San Diego

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#2689 4 years ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

then this news story is lying
https://cleantechnica.com/2019/04/27/tesla-model-3-used-car-sales-in-usa-continue-to-taunt-bmw-audi-others
"used car statistics at that point might be skewed by the federal tax rebate on EVs. If people sold their Tesla Model 3 before the beginning of 2019, they wouldn’t get the rebate of $7,500. This was economically valuable to buyers in a direct way"

No need to check internet sites, magazines or newspapers for accuracy.....

#2710 4 years ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

define commercial.. semi's? covered. .

Not "covered".

Remember, commercial vehicles (Class 7 & 8 ) are more than tractors pulling 45,000 pounds of Tesla cars. A big difference when you have 60,000# of diesel fuel in a petroleum tank trailer. Or, like the I-94 corridor in Michigan allows up to 120,000# with an eight axle trailer. Coils of steel weigh a lot.

Then there are the heavy-haul trailers made by Trail King, Cozad, Talbert and others with stub axles with eight tires per axle so 64 tires. The trailer alone weighs 20 tons. They can haul 200,000# or more. Electric tractors are not yet up to the task.

Someday, maybe.

#2717 4 years ago

"
So, in 10 years we have reduced the price of batteries minimally by 65%, and we have increased the density of the power they store by 66%.

There are *no* components on an ICE car that have that sort of price reduction in the past 10 years, much less the thing that costs the most for the car.
".

Light Emitting Diodes
Stability Control Systems
Touch Screen Control/Infotainment Systems

#2719 4 years ago
Quoted from goatdan:

Percentage wise, sure.
I mean the multiple thousands of dollars of price reduction that batteries alone have had. And all of those things that you named would also have the same price reductions as components on an electric car.

I addressed your *no* components on an ICE car statement. I see that you have changed the rules.

#2723 4 years ago
Quoted from BC_Gambit:

For the umpteenth time in this thread the people thinking that BEV's won't get cheaper than ICE cars in the next 5 to 10 years are deluding themselves.

I don't know why some people just can't understand that....

Because some of the people on this thread are scientists and engineers. You can show them various Theorems and even hyperbolic functions and they accept them. However, tell them a bench has wet paint and they have to touch it to be sure.

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#2749 4 years ago
Quoted from rubberducks:

He didn't try to take it private. He tried to fix the share price ... somewhat successfully in the few hours it took before it came out that he'd lied about everything.

Funding Secured...... LLLLMFAO!

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#2793 4 years ago
Quoted from rodcom:

Love my Tesla model 3 performance. 0-60 in under 3 secs. Tech is awesome and love only going to WAWA to wash my windows and get coffee. So much fun![quoted image]

My Exelon Electric Co. shares appreciate this.

#2794 4 years ago
Quoted from JoshPA:

But for me, I'll give my money to someone who is landing rockets on boats for now.

Elon may soon send an email to all Tesla vehicle owners suggesting they buy at least one additional Tesla vehicle for one they already own.

No word on if he bought a pocket watch to swing in front of everyone for a video attached to the email.

#2801 4 years ago
Quoted from paynemic:

Just did! Love both. Just try one, it’s better than hypnosis.

I try this one every once in awhile at work as it is in a general set of fleet cars. Ok to drive, but no soul. My '01 Beetle turbo is more fun. Plus, every engineer here floors it and it's in some kind of restricted mode until we get it fixed. Has to be taken/shipped to Cleveland or Chicago I'm told.....

Drove it to Kalamazoo the other day (280 mile round trip) had to stop in Marshall to charge it. No fun to charge it there. Nothing to do there.

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#2824 4 years ago
Quoted from Nilroc:

To drive an ice car 200,000 miles you would have to on average get 40 oil changes. There is a cost to that. Even if you do it yourself. Your time is worth how much? While an ICE car driver goes out to purchase his favorite oil, drain the oil then put in the new oil. Then drive to recycle the old oil. EV drivers are enjoying their cars. Sounds like more fun to me.

The newer (and I use that term loosely) have 10,000 mile defined or computed based on usage & conditions oil change intervals. My wife's GM Envoy I-6 averages a change required at 12,000 miles. And that's with fossil oil meeting the GM spec (6094-?).

Also, I value my free time at $150.00/hr.

#2828 4 years ago
Quoted from Nilroc:

You really use a lot of your information loosely. GM's page explaining Oil life monitor says up to 7500 miles not 10,000 or 12,000 miles
https://www.gmc.com/gmc-life/technology/what-your-oil-life-monitor-tells-you

I use the owner's manual, not a website. So, when there are 7500 miles on the oil and the % life remaining says 40% you think I'm gonna change the oil?

I'm telling you exactly how the system works in my wife's GMC Envoy. You change the oil when the display says 0% life left. Or sooner if you wish. Once below 10%, the display comes on upon start-up to show you're getting close to the 0% mark.

Hers has the info center, not just the indicator lamp if that matters.

5 months later
#2953 4 years ago
Quoted from pinster68:

Stock continues to soar ... and I’m quite happy I got back in a month ago.
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Btw, mrbally hasnt chimed in on the good news. How’s your situation working out champ?
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Doing very well. Thanks for asking.

2 months later
#3065 4 years ago

Good news, you'll soon be able to directly purchase and receive service on Tesla vehicles in Michigan.

The new vehicle titles will be from other states and then you'll transfer to a Michigan title. That will likely be resolved in another year or three.

#3087 4 years ago

Solar roofs can't buy advertising like this. Happened a few weeks ago a couple doors down from my sister in San Diego. While not a total loss, house is uninhabitable until reconstructed.
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#3089 4 years ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

I hear bad electrical wiring, faulty appliances, gas leaks, dry christmas trees can cause house fires too.

I've heard that too. This was a solar panel fire. Maybe it was bad clearcoat on the panels.

#3091 4 years ago
Quoted from toyotaboy:

or maybe because it was California (where it's notorious to find many unlicensed contractors that don't know what they're doing) that something wasn't connected within code.

Aren't Tesla solar roofs only installed by Gigafactory-trained installation crews that are either company employees or directly contracted by Tesla?

#3096 4 years ago
Quoted from goatdan:

That's not a Tesla solar roof.
I know that new tech is really scary to you, so you like to spread stuff about it, but that is clearly solar panels, and almost definitely not Tesla ones as Tesla installs theirs without roof spacing usually. I question your motives in sharing when you wrongly identify a product.

You do not know that new tech is really scary to me. I sell and use it and have sold it for over thirty years.

When did I say that was a Tesla solar roof?

#3098 4 years ago
Quoted from Luckydogg420:

That's what I inferred, after all this is a tesla thread and they do make solar tiles

Many recent posts here tote that solar roofs in general allow more personal time and a more economical alternative to ICE vehicles when coupled with a superior electric vehicle.

Keep in mind, I am pro-Tesla as I sell components to them for their light and heavy vehicles.

Their corporate arrogance is among the highest that I've ever dealt with.

#3101 4 years ago

Ok, you win.

2 months later
#3181 4 years ago
Quoted from remf:

ended up buying the 2020 model 3 long range for my wife and now I want one. Thing is stupid fast and I’m even thinking about paying the 2k fee for the software update to increase the 0-60 speed increase. Just not sure if I want to drop that much just for .7 seconds increase in acceleration..

If you don't, you'll always wonder....

6 months later
#3214 3 years ago

Of course now that I'm in Tesla shares, this comes out:

Consumer Interest in EVs and Self-Driving Cars Stuck in Neutral

https://www.autobeatonline.com/news/consumer-interest-in-evs-and-self-driving-cars-stuck-in-neutral

2 years later
#3278 9 months ago
Quoted from goatdan:That's not a Tesla solar roof.
I know that new tech is really scary to you, so you like to spread stuff about it, but that is clearly solar panels, and almost definitely not Tesla ones as Tesla installs theirs without roof spacing usually. I question your motives in sharing when you wrongly identify a product.

Tesla brand solar panel fire from eight days ago. Per the homeowner that posted this on twitter or whatever it's called now; Tesla was also the installer. And yes, the panels have spacers. Also has pigeon guards. Tesla's Customer Service is not responsive.....

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#3303 4 months ago
Quoted from paynemic:

Would the all the ICE fanboys please jump in quickly and tell that happy buyer why he’s stupid?!! Its been minutes already…

I don’t tell others how to spend their money. I also don't like when others tell me how to spend mine.

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#3307 4 months ago
Quoted from paynemic:

And yet you’re here in a “who’s in on a model 3 thread”.
I kid, I kid.

Translation [since you asked the ICE fanboys to tell the CT orderer he was stupid for "buying" it]: I won't tell him how to spend his money, nor do I want someone telling me how to spend mine.

#3308 4 months ago
Quoted from Electrocute:

Sit back, light & wonder why.

For those unaware, Light & Wonder is the current name of the former Bally Gaming Equipment division of Bally. The building has been remodeled a few times since it was completed in 1991.

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