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Who is in on Tesla model 3 ?

By pinballrockstar

7 years ago


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“Are you in on the model 3?”

  • Hell yes! 57 votes
    15%
  • I am considering! 80 votes
    21%
  • Hard to part with fossil fuel 15 votes
    4%
  • I don't care about my carbon footprint 88 votes
    23%
  • No 148 votes
    38%

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#57 7 years ago
Quoted from Chitownpinball:

For exactly that reason, lets move our asses into the future for F's sake. No more burning fossil fuels in cars. The model T was introduced in 1908 and got 21 mpg. Why are we not getting 100 mpg 109 years later?

Short answer.....Physics, Economics and Government Regulations

Long answer.....

I can make you a car that gets 100mpg easily. Heck, we did that about 20 years ago;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_Ultralite

It just won't carry 5 people, 10 airbags, have creature comforts like Nav and heated seats, start in climates from -20F to 120F, last for 200k miles, and all of that costing only $30,000.

I can however recommend a great car that does all that and gets 52mpg hwy.....

http://www.autonews.com/article/20170220/OEM06/302209945/how-chevy-coaxed-cruze-diesel-to-52-mpg

Later,
EV

P.S. Full disclosure....I work for GM in Fuel Economy, and these are my opinions, not those of GM, yada, yada, yada...

#65 7 years ago
Quoted from pinballrockstar:

Ugh...sorry to hear that...you are gonna be unemployed soon as Elon pushes out the model 3's.
Good luck with that...

No worries...

Ol' Elon has some neat ideas, but when it comes down to it, Tesla's sales are quite small compared to any full-line manufacturer. When he can produce a $20k sedan and a $30k pickup truck in any volumes over 100k, then I'll mayyyybe show a little concern.

Besides, why wait for a Model 3 when you can get a car with the same price point and capability right now?
http://www.chevrolet.com/bolt-ev-electric-vehicle.html
(although I will admit, the Model 3 is wayyyy prettier).

Just like pinball, make ONE car or pin is easier. Making thousands of a thing *exactly the same way each time* is whole orders of magnitude more difficult.

Competition is good. The existence of Tesla has totally made us step up our game.

Later,
EV

#139 7 years ago
Quoted from pinballrockstar:

A gasoline car has about 2200 moving parts and a tesla about 16..
If you think "All that stuff" in a Tesla you refer to can break down,you need to watch the factory video...really...i was shocked to see how simple the car actually is?
The engine is the size of a scuba tank and the transmission is one gear?!
It is mounted between the rear wheels.
It doesn't even has a reverse gear? The just put the current the other way around and reverse you go!?
Then there is an ipad,battery and doors?
I don't disagree with you,i understand where you are coming from,but just watch the video if you have a moment.
It is super exciting.
ยป YouTube video
At the 40:12 minutes mark the drivetrain/body marriage takes place.
They install it in 5 minutes?

While the Tesla is admittedly a cool car, let's not get carried away with thinking they are making some magical wunder-mobile here. It's simply a very nice car with an electric drive train instead of a internal combustion engine.

Only 16 moving parts? Umm, one suspension corner has that many (brake disc, pads, caliper, shock absorber, etc.), regardless of if it's electric or gas.

In fact, what most people don't realize is that a lot of the engineering for the Model S was done here in good "old tech" Detroit by former big 3 folks.

Once again, what Elon and friends have put together is a nice package. But they still don't make a single dime selling cars. Almost all Tesla profits come from selling ZEV credits to other automakers (like FCA and Mercedes).

TLDR

Tesla guys aren't any smarter than the rest of us....they just have better PR...

Later,
EV

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