Would ya check out that "Automatic percentaging"!

Ive asked before and havent ever found out, my gladiators flyer says it has a pre pitch system, auto pitch adjust. Anyone know anything about this? Im guessing its something they tried but it didnt make it to production, just still on the flyer

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Love the nineties gottlieb's. Street Fighter 2 is one of my keepers. Purchasing a Wipe Out tomorrow. Well worth the money these games are not over-inflated because of the haters.

Wipeout is awesome. The callouts get old very quick, but its a fun game and i love the art. Set it to difficult though or its very very easy.

I thought Wipeout was ok for about 3 weeks then once the honeymoon phase wore off...well. .... waiting on that dam skilift over and over was horrible and that dam dumb slalom that took up a quarter of the playfield lol. It had some neat shots but i cldnt wait to get rid of it and wld never own it again even if it was cheaper than the 1250 i paid lol. I like playing the system 3s on occasion bc they are so different, but they tend to get boring very quickly after the novelty of the toys wear off which y i wont own them any more due to my limited space. They have their place and all pinball is fun......

Just picked up a Robo-War!

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Let the love fest continue!

I'd really like to see how that drop target between the flippers works

Diamond Lady is a good game. Pretty tough too. If I recall correctly, it was Jon Norris's first production game and it was designed more for the advanced player (hit only certain targets while completely avoiding others), and it was less approachable for a beginner for high scores.

Darn! If I'd known that I would have probably picked one of the ones at York up, wince-worthy art be damned. 'hit only certain things' is my favorite type of game.... Sadly there aren't that many

If you guys haven't played Bad Girls, that's another great game. Horrendous artwork, but it's got solid gameplay, and a surprisingly good sound track!

That seems to be the a description of most 1983+ gottlieb games...

Pretty much. It's a shame, because they really are diamonds in the rough. I mean, Bad Girls' soundtrack is very clearly a Michael Jackson ripoff (Song 2 is literally just an alternative version of "Another Part of Me"), and that's never a bad thing.

Diamond Lady has a really challenging set of rules, you can only hit certain card suits within the bank of targets. Since the whole table revolves around bounces and rebounds (which in this case work against the player), it requires extreme precision from the player to accomplish the goal of the game.

I just looked at the artwork for Diamond Lady...

Definitely gives me a confidence boost for when I start working on the art for my Future Pinball game! Whatever I manage to draw... At least I'll know it's not the worst artwork ever put on a pinball game...

Heh, I always assumed it looked especially bad to me since I didn't live through the 80s

Most of them, to me, are like Bally's Truck Stop: I'd be embarrassed to be seen owning it

My go-to for bad 80s pin art is Hardbody. The first time I saw one, I thought it was some weird, potentially custom alt backlight, but no, that's just how it was made. Thank god the gameplay is so good.

I've got an Arena and had an Excalibur for a while, and play Premier pins any chance I get - their layouts are always refreshing and unique, rather than the same old fan design.

I also find the photo translights fun. I found a non-faded version for both the Arena and Excalubur, and it made them both look 100% better.

Also, a tip for my fellow Premier owners who want to get the most out of your backglass - try putting a 'daylight' bulb in there instead of a warm white. The daylight bulbs will illuminate the art better, making the actual colors of the art 'pop', without giving it a sickly yellow tint.

That's a pretty funny topper for Spring Break.

I like Gottlieb / Premier. They've got a lot of unique, wild, different, and strange games. They play different, but I like the way they play different. It's not my preference, but I still enjoy them. I had Hot Shots for over a year and it wasn't my most played but it was still fun and challenging every time. Spring Break was another fun one. I miss them both and regret selling them off. There is no way I'll let my Alien Star go, it's the only one I have left and the one I like the most due to the simplicity yet extreme challenge and also the art. I plan on adding another Gottlieb/Premier soon, not sure what I want, but keeping an eye out.

Other than a couple of the translights being 'eh so-so. I have enjoyed all of them I have had the opportunity to play.

glad to see some people got bored and this thread is trending how it should!

Some people were playing in states championship series matches and had better things to do than bitch about 90s gottliebs.

In NC the only gottlieb in our bank was 1980 buck Rogers, a great game.

I went 2-0 on it

Lol, yeah I saw the thread a few days ago and thought, do I really need to comment? Of course people like Premier & Gottlieb. Some hate them as well. I like some of them and dislike some of them. Glad they were what they were though. Seems like they made quite a lot of games over the years. Haunted House was the first pinball machine I ever saw in the wild or got to play, and it hooked me.

Shouldn't everyone ought to always have better things to do than bitch about 90s Gottliebs?!

Had this BH for awhile now and its been great fun

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Nice. Never played abounty hunter. Looks fun

Shouldn't everyone ought to always have better things to do than waste even a single second posting here?!

Of course. But here we are.

Perhaps, but it's not black and white, and posting negative BS in a thread specifically created for those who like something is objectively a bigger waste of time than simply posting is. And you know it. But of course you have this image to uphold about wanting to be some kind of epic posting pinball celebrity to a bunch of nerd pinheads, talk about a waste of time!

Your contributions to this thread amount to bitching about me. Congrats? Meanwhile I'm spreading the gospel of Spring Break and it's awesome sound quality.

And by the way, I didn't complain about people barging into my SF2 hating thread and spreading positivity, did I? In fact, I welcomed it, as I hold social intercourse dear to my heart.

Pinball celebrity?! I don't even have a podcast!

Oh boy, I sure do! There are some weeks where all I play is Big Hurt. I don't care about baseball in the slightest, but that game has the juice!!

I love trying for the skill shot every ball, love shooting for home runs, and the orbits are as fast and repeatable as any. The gameplay is as deep as you want it to be. Feeling on top of your game? Go for combos and repeated left orbits. Just want to bat a ball around? Go for runs and shots down the middle. As o-din says, it's an "end of the night" game.

Not to get back on comparing Gottlieb's to Williams/Bally games, but I used to have both a World Cup Soccer 94 and a Big Hurt. One of them is still here.

Lol, like I mentioned earlier, im not really a baseball guy...glad to hear someone else isn't either but still has interest in big hurt

Big Hurt is fun! I love the baseball glove. It's got a good flow overall.

Ditto on the never got to play one. Looks cool. Is that a system 80B?

I just picked up a Mario Andretti and I must say I really enjoy the game. I really like the extra stroke on the flippers and feel like they're just right for hitting those extra shots. Andretti is loaded with places to shoot and has a nice flow to it. My main complaint about it is the code is a bit of a joke. I can see why people that play competitively don't enjoy it. It would be nice if someone would come out and tweak the code a bit to fix it. The strategy in MA is really cool but the random jackpots and mystery awards ruin any chance of competition play. I was playing earlier and I'm not sure what exactly I shot but it gave me the option to trade some fuel for a super jackpot and if you say no it says it'll give you 50 million points. Now keep in mind I was playing for awhile and had around 450 million points.

I end up selecting the super jackpot and it gives me one billion fucking points! That is just retarded. A completely unearned award that is double what my current score was. What a joke.

That kind of stuff is super annoying. I bought the game to put on route so I don't really care that much but it just sucks that the game has so much potential and they added such dumb things to the rules that make it a turn off to anyone who takes pinball seriously.

I hope some rogue programmer can work their magic on it because it really would be a great deck with a little polish and balancing.

Gottlieb made some very nice games. Had quite a few stinkers as well, mostly due to a big lack of refinement in the software department.

I own a Black Hole, Haunted House, TX-Sector, Night Moves and Street Fighter II and I like them all. TX and Black Hole are definately my favorites of the bunch. I also own a Hot Fire Birds, a machine by German brand NSM. It has a playfield designed and produced by Premier/Gottlieb inside it. My brother owns an Arena and a Surf 'n' Safari, which we enjoy immensely with a few beers on the side.

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Black hole is another one. I love the game play and the look, but the multiball is virtually unachievable and when you get it it is so short. When I had one my buddy and I would just load up 4 games on it and just try and get nultiball the whole time. Sometimes we'd go all night and only achieve it once or twice. It would be cool if it was a little easier because it's one of the coolest multiball in all of pinball.

Don't get me wrong I still love gottleib.

Personally I don't think it'd be half as fun if it was easier