3 reasons. Price, Same layouts used 100 times by stern. Over and over and over again. I don't care if the LE numbers are in the 1000's. Your not suppose to be buying games for an investment anyway. If you don't lose your ass when it comes time to sell it, you got lucky. Other than that, buy it because you ENJOYED playing it. (notice past tense there..meaning you already played it Before buying).

and 3rd reason, is because I havn't played it a minimum of 20 times. LOTR looks like ass, boring layout, not a lot of toys, but the rules knock it out of the park and make it a top 5 game for me. This might do the same. But since I already own 4 other games with practically the same layout, there is no room in my collection for this regardless. To much of the same thing. If I had room for 30 games, and the rules on this turn out the be truly unique and outstanding on a whole other level...then maybe when the price is dropped and everyone is dumping them.

scramble to get out the door?

what difference does it make? They all end up back here anyway. Just be a new era of containers.

every game is limited edition. Once they stop making them, that's it. Limited is a relative term. The ones that buy to play, don't give a crap. The ones that are trying to use pinball as an investment, are shaking in their boots, when the LE drops in price. As all new games should.

I changed my mind. I'm buying one now since i'm selling the mod for it. And using the money I madke off the mod to purchase it. Once I sell out of the mods, i'll order one.

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/stern-star-trek-astroid-mod

Excellent choice, as I too am a fan of the chives as it adds a splash of color to the scene.

I call bullshit on this one. You just don't go in the threads about good games, so you never see it when I compliment a game.

But I was interested in this one. The wife is a huge fan of the new movies. It had potential. But it's out of my 6k limit for any game where they made more than 20 of. and fell into the "we've done this layout 100 times" design. And it's very bland. Software could save it. Time will tell and only after a couple of years if the hype still follows it, will it be considered. But the price on the resale market would have to fit the bill. I'm in no rush. I have 22 other games i'd rather play for the next 3 or 4 years, till we see where it stands in the test of time.

But.......... LOTR is similar in that aspect, and that's a top 5 game for me. Why? ONLY because of the software. It's the most in depth and phenomenal rules ever made. (TSPP is also as good but too cluttered for my taste (should have been widebody)). Which is enough to save the game since it fits the theme so well.

Btw, I never said I hated it. I was underwelmed, but don't hate it. But I am sick of stern cranking out the same cookie cutter playfield layouts for every damn game. It's getting sickening.

If they put out something unique like Dungeons and Dragons or swords of fury layouts, i'd shit my pants because they actually stepped out of the box for a change.

First off, i'd have to play it. Great unique layout doesn't guarantee awesome game. You need the software and rules to go with it. If it doesn't exceed my 6k limit for any game (rare exceptions to this), then I would. If it does exceed it. I'll wait 3 or 4 years, when they start to come off route or people are dumping them for the next prehype game. So yes. If it's good, i'll eventually own it.

That was the best commercial I've ever seen. Why the hell have I not seen this on TV?

apparently 1 million moms need to get the stick out of their butts. My wife loved it and thought it was one of the most funny commercials she's ever seen. So this Mom would have protested the other moms.

everyone says IM is stripped down because it is. it's The econo line at stern. Just like AFM was for Bally/williams. BBH , NBA and TRS all look and feel cheap. IM is no exception but gets more love than the other 3. Tho the rules are very very shallow.

This list is futile. There should only be 1 thing on that list, and you don't even have it on there.

I am holding off until :

1. Until I play it

But your math is skewed, because your basing it off of full retail as if you started with nothing, but really, you have the parts that your replacing. So for your numbers to really work, you would have to subtract the value of the parts that your upgrading, as they would have some value on the resale market. So say, stainless steel speaker panel was $300. The standard printed lexan and wood version would be worth $150, that's a $150 upgrade value. Translite + glass vs Backglass. Translite is usually $125 + $25 glass. So the backglass upgrade is $100 increase in value. SHaker is $120. Plaque. $20 (if that). Powdercoated side rails laser cut over premium powdercoated rails... lets be generous and say it costs $30 to have them laser cut.

So your looking at $420 worth of upgrades over the standard premium items.