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Whitewater Topper Reproduction Update!!

By TwistedPins

9 years ago

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Latest reply 8 years ago by Aurich
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#1 9 years ago

TWP

We are in the final stages of getting the new die made. It took a long long time (too long) to get this project into the right hands to make it happen. As everybody knows the first attempt which was a poor attempt had no action on the waterfall at all. Needless to say the new and improved version is a night and day difference. The new version has in my opinion more waterfall action than the original one.

Before we finalize the die and move into production I wanted to get some opinions and feedback on an idea we came up with. The artist can make the Williams logo have some action from left to right. Personally I think it looks great and ties together well with the waterfall. Below is a GIF of what it looks like (note that this isn't exact but just to give people an idea)

Williams-Logo-16-Linear-VP.gif

#2 9 years ago

DEL

SealClubber

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I think it is a great idea but I am not a purist.

#3 9 years ago

DK

Pinball Naples

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Looks awesome. Can't wait to see the final result! Will this be a limited run?

#4 9 years ago

RML

tpn2011

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Gulf Shores, AL

12y 55,900 1,418 1

Will look good either way can't wait to get one for my wh20 what is the eta on Availability ??

#5 9 years ago

TWP

TwistedPins

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Boise, ID

11y 18,650 305

Quoted from tpn2011:
Will look good either way can't wait to get one for my wh20 what is the eta on Availability ??

If everything goes according to the production schedule I have been given it will be available to the market by the end of July.

#6 9 years ago

COS

cosmokramer

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I don't have a horse in this race but it seems that most pinheads are purists and would probably prefer as close to original appearance as possible...

just my 0.02

#7 9 years ago

SMK

TheLaw

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Ann Arbor, MI

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Quoted from SealClubber:
I think it is a great idea but I am not a purist.

It's a cool idea but for the purists everywhere it's not our cup of tea. Of course purists account for 8% of ownership these days so go for it (I own & don't need one).

#8 9 years ago

JDS

judremy

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Farmington Hills, MI

13y 67,800 2,213 5 8

I say add it. It isn't going to be the same as the original to begin with, so why not?

#9 9 years ago

MCS

Doot77

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Dekalb, IL

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I personally don't care either way but I would think that some would want more close to original so you'll likely lose sales to that so I would stick with the original. Glad to hear this is back on track.

#10 9 years ago

BAK

dsuperbee

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Sacramento, CA

11y 82,550 5,597 6

I don't care either way, I just want a new, functional, not faded as hell topper!

#11 9 years ago

SLV

Steve_in_Escalon

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I will buy one either way, but would prefer as originally designed. The artist had the ability to add it back then, but chose not to...

Steve (in Escalon, CA)

#12 9 years ago

SMK

TheLaw

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Ann Arbor, MI

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Is the "action from left to right" fiber? That would be cool.

#13 9 years ago

TWP

TwistedPins

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Boise, ID

11y 18,650 305

Quoted from TheLaw:
Is the "action from left to right" fiber? That would be cool.

Yes the action would be from left to right.

Quoted from Doot77:
I personally don't care either way but I would think that some would want more close to original so you'll likely lose sales to that so I would stick with the original. Glad to hear this is back on track.

I figured most people would prefer that it be as close to original as possible. But when the artist approached me with the idea I was intrigued and thought it might look pretty cool.

#14 9 years ago

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dsuperbee

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Sacramento, CA

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So I went and turned my wh2o on to take a look at my Williams logo. Mine flows top to bottom, and I do like that. I vote for original

#15 9 years ago

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Dewey68

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Plainfield, IL

12y 66,800 2,503 4 15

You could do the original, and a smaller run with the effect on the Williams logo and call it the LE version. At a moderate mark-up of course.

#16 9 years ago

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Pinball4life

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Colorado Springs, CO

10y 18,650 398 12

Quoted from Doot77:
I personally don't care either way but I would think that some would want more close to original so you'll likely lose sales to that so I would stick with the original. Glad to hear this is back on track.

Yup...no upside to doing it as far as sales and potential lost sales if you do! I would keep it original, but nice idea!

#17 9 years ago

MNT

mfresh

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Frieth

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Hi Travis. I'd say go for the original look.
Paul. Editor, pavlovpinball.com

#18 9 years ago

JWL

zr11990

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Humble, TX

14y 87,050 6,656 9

I like it and you still owe me one because I never got money back from before
James

#19 9 years ago

EJS

Eric_S

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Oshkosh, WI

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I like it. I say add it in.

#20 9 years ago

rotordave

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It doesn't worry me either way ....

I look forward to getting my topper and cover I ordered back on day one

rd.

#21 9 years ago

CNH

ChadH

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Does doing this add an extra step in the approval process from PPS and/or WMS?

Would be a shame to do that extra work only to have it denied by them. I'd say keep it simple for this one especially considering the history of this particular project.

#22 9 years ago

TWP

TwistedPins

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Boise, ID

11y 18,650 305

Quoted from ChadH:
Does doing this add an extra step in the approval process from PPS and/or WMS?
Would be a shame to do that extra work only to have it denied by them. I'd say keep it simple for this one especially considering the history of this particular project.

No I ran it by PPS before posting it on Pinside for everybody to view.

Quoted from Dewey68:
You could do the original, and a smaller run with the effect on the Williams logo and call it the LE version. At a moderate mark-up of course.

We thought about running both versions but that would require two different dies which would increase the cost. If there were enough people interested then it makes sense to make the second die but it looks like the majority of people want to keep it original which is what we are going to do.

#23 9 years ago

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Big_Bob

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Warner Robins, GA

11y 33,050 315

I would prefer the original, but I am a buyer either way. Thanks for keeping at this through the turmoil.

#24 9 years ago

JGI

John_I

Space Coast Pinball

19y 179K 9,076

I like it but prefer the original. I will be buying one once it is proven to be real.

1 year later

#25 8 years ago

PRW

Paul_from_Gilroy

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How about an update? What happened?

#26 8 years ago

ABB

Aurich

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Torrance, CA

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Quoted from Paul_from_Gilroy:
How about an update? What happened?

Updates are in another thread. The quick version is nothing happened, Twisted Pins stopped communicating, some people got refunds, and everyone is pretty much sick of the whole situation. Don't expect to ever see it appears to be the end.

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