(Topic ID: 278403)

WhiteWater Prototype?

By Fenix15

3 years ago



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#1 3 years ago

Hey all,

I honestly have no idea where to post this and I don't know anyone to verify my account, so I'm asking here. I have a WhiteWater machine and I suspect it might be a prototype but I'm not sure. My evidence is as follows:

1. Serial number 100043 (game number 43 out 7,008?).

2. Software version is P-1. Things are different from most other WH20s I have played. Gold Rush items behave differently, no game over music, no flipper codes work, no attract mode sounds with the flipper buttons, and the final shot in Wet Willie's is 50M instead of 100M.

Is there a way to definitively tell whether a WH2O is prototype or just early production? What differences are there? How many WhiteWater prototypes are there? I can provide more info if needed, I'm just super curious and I would be totally stoked if I end up having a prototype!

#2 3 years ago

What color are the circuit boards? Prototypes usually have Red instead of green

#3 3 years ago

I have all green boards.

#4 3 years ago

It's not a prototype game, but it could be a sample game. Typically in a production run, there can be about 5-15 prototypes (usually with an "X" in the serial number and red PCBs), sometimes 25-100 sample games, then followed the rest of the full production run.

P-1 is certainly early game code.

If you replace the game and sound ROMs with EPROMs that have the latest code, it should play like typical whitewater.

Here's an example of an actual prototype whitewater: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/white-water-prototype-or-sample

#5 3 years ago

Thanks for the clarification! If you don't mind me asking, what's the difference between a prototype and a sample game? Are they different from production games at all? Is there a way to tell if my machine is a sample game?

Sorry for all the questions. I'm just soaking it all in lol

#6 3 years ago
Quoted from Fenix15:

what's the difference between a prototype and a sample game?

That depends on the game title. Sometimes, there's not much of a difference, sometimes there are quite a few differences. Artwork changes, parts placements, adding/removing/changing mechs, etc.

With whitewater, there were some minor artwork differences, but I think that was about it.

Sample games were typically tested on location to catch any final issues before the rest of the games were built. Depending on the feedback from operators, sometimes there were minor changes between sample games and production games, but sometimes there were no differences.

#7 3 years ago

My good friend has WH20 HEP serial 0001 and that P-1 code is still on it. Actually kinda fun!

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