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Here's the deal with the Flashlight.
The ONLY way I've ever found to have it in play is if you put the game in Tournament mode. In all other modes the Flashlight is spotted at the start of the game. I don't believe there is any other way to adjust it, regardless of which ROM you're using.
Quoted from Krank:Alright, thanks. Thats probably it.
I found one more think about it in rule sheet, in Bugs section:
"What is the algorithm for determining which Lost Mine items are "given" when starting a game? Seems that installing new ROMs randomly changes this. Perhaps memory is not initialized properly. Factory reset also seems to affect this."
I think there's something to this. I sent off my boards for servicing and when they came back, now the flashlight is not spotted. ROM is LH-6, which is the same ROM I was previously using and the flashlight was always spotted (except in tournament mode). I don't know if CoinOp Cauldron did anything with my game ROM or not, but the game was at least reset to factory settings.
Caveat: I have some repair issues going on with my Lost Mine right now and haven't had the chance to fully play-test yet so the above is just my preliminary take.
Quoted from thewool:I wonder if restoring factory defaults would make any difference to the counting?
You could try resetting the factory defaults a few times to see if you can get it so the flashlight is not spotted.
I think P-8 is the prototype ROM though and it's going to have all the bugs that were fixed by subsequent ROMs.
Quoted from Krank:Its probably just huge bug and its sad that is not solved even in last update. I install LH-6 ROM yesterday. I play few games (normal mode, no Turnament) and once I noticed I collect the flashlight by Old Mine hit- hallelujah
In next game (without any changes in setting) I have flashlight from beginning again.....fuck.
So, it looks like its some kind of random which is slightly stupid.
I had the same type of experience, although my Lost Mine opto was failing and I don't know if that contributed to the occurrence of the flashlight. This was with the LH-6 ROM, right after the factory reset. I had a few instances of getting flashlight award (i.e. it was not being spotted) right after the reset to factory defaults. The thing is my Lost Mine was triggering by itself so it wasn't exactly "normal" gameplay. This was happening pretty early in the game. Since fixing the Lost Mine opto I haven't seen that happen again (now the Flashlight is spotted). So, maybe its something that only happens right after reset, or maybe you can only get it if you hit the Lost Mine very soon after the first ball is in play.
So, I'm back to thinking the only way to play where it's not spotted is to put the game in Tournament Mode. The only thing is, that Lost Mine shot is so hard to hit that I'm fairly certain the spotted the Flashlight to make up for that. I rarely get the Gold Rush even when it is spotted.
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