Maudheim
Could someone please inform me about the following.
1. How many GI lamps are there?
2. Where are they located?
3. Are they #44 or #555?
I'm getting my Wh2o Next week but I want to buy my leds in head of time.
Thanks in advance!
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Quoted from hlaj78:Just buy a bag of 100. Actually, I usually wait until I have a game so that I can decide how many of each color that I need.
a bag will not let me color adjust the way I want to, Isn't anyone here sitting on the information on how many GI lights there are and where they're located?
Quoted from Hougie:I think the best suggestion is buying some different styles of colored and white leds to try in various locations. You can experiment with the colors and place a large order when you know what you want.
Trust me, this will cost you much less in the long run. You will know exactly what you want and how many you need. For gi I suggest CT frosted.
The thing is that I'm getting my leds sponsored and I don't want get an unnecessary amount of leds and burn any bridges that way, I just need to know how many GI lamps there are, my guess is that it's 95% #44 but how many and where are they placed? If I had the pin here right now I could just go and count them but I'll be getting my Wh2o next week and I really wanted to have my leds at home by then so I can start converting it right away.
Quoted from yzfguy:If you're looking for quick and easy, order a pre selected kit online. Cointaker puts together a nice kit, just costs a few bucks more than doing it yourself.
Nah, not interested in a kit, I want to do my own thing, and since I get the leds for next to nothing I'm not going to buy from another vendor. Just need to know how many #44 to order fro the GI, my led source only have info on the inserts, not the GI.
Quoted from Andrzej:Is it not in the manual? My link above.
No, I was unable to find the GI placement in the manual strangely enough.
I was hoping someone could just dot out the GI bulbs in the image for example.
Quoted from Jam_Burglar:It would take a bit to do all that counting, and also try to tell you where they are locatated. Your best bet would be if somebody's got an LED map from a kit they'd be willing to share.
Keep in mind LEDs in the GI are going to kill all of your dimming, and White Water uses quite a bit of dimming (unless you can get a hold of Herg's GI OCD mod).
I'm willing to sacrifice the dimming. 
9 months later
Okay, so I'm finally in the Wh2o club!
I need some assistance right away from my fellow rafters.
My "center" pop bumper is not working. This is what I tried so far.
New coild "DONE"
Check the fuses "DONE"
Check the bumper skirt switch "DONE"
Checked for loose connectors on the boards "DONE"
Checked all the nuts and bolts on the bumper "DONE"
Make sure the coil gets power "DONE" (even managed to shock myself) 
I'm not sure what else to do, any suggestions?
Quoted from urbanledge:Look at the manual,
find out what transistor controls it.
If you touch the metal tab on the transistor to ground with a piece of wire (the mounting plate in the bock box will do) doe it fire the bumper?
but before that.......does it fire in test?
I'm not able to find that transistor. Can someone please point it out to me? Is there anything else that can be the problem?
Quoted from urbanledge:Look at the manual,
find out what transistor controls it.
If you touch the metal tab on the transistor to ground with a piece of wire (the mounting plate in the bock box will do) doe it fire the bumper?
but before that.......does it fire in test?
Just tried the wire method on transistor Q48 and nothing happened. In test mode the bumper is also not reacting.
Quoted from urbanledge:I'm not an expert by any means but I'd say that transistor is busted.
Thats where I'd start anyway.
When I was replacing the Q48 Transistor I see that it have been replaced before, I decided to replace it again. The board is now mounted in the backbox and still NOTHING!!!! 
Any other advice? I really want to get the center bumper fixed, I hardly get any bumper action without it.
Okay guys, I finally figured it out!!!! it was a bad trace. I took a closer look on center pin and follow the trace down and I could see that the trace was rubbed off. I connected a wire from the center pin in on the transistor down to the pin out and now it finally works.
Thank you for the help!!!!
Thanks.
My abominable snowman was kinda a pain! The head was too big so when the glas was on it didn't fit.
I had to cut down the plastic mold for the body beneath the fur to get it all to fit, I also had a big problem with the hand holding on to the log, not any kind of glue would work due to the material the hands are made from, I had to screw them down with a washer on top of the fingers and it work out fine, I'm not able to see the screw or the washer from a player perspective.
Quoted from urbanledge:The snow makes no sense,
White Water rafting is a summer sport.
The playfield now looks totally out of place
I wouldn't go as far as calling it a sport. 
Things don't allways have to make sense as long as it's aesthetically pleasing.
Quoted from urbanledge:What ever floats your boat.
Pretty sure rating is a sport.
I think it looks better with bigfoot and the normal plastics.
bigfoot hotfoot now makes no sense and the dots arnt tied to the game anymore.
You meant too say "what ever floats my raft"
Quoted from Pinballer22:ok.....who has figured out the best arrangement of leds for the backbox? I'm not having the best of luck but I am sure someone has figured out the perfect arrangement.
No colors needed in my opinion. Just regular cool white frosted will make it really pop!
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Quoted from urbanledge:I ordered the spine chiller and watch out for the drop decals.
The watch out for the drop doesnt suit the plastic!
Looking at a few pics there seems to be 2 styles of plastic for the disaster drop .
heres mine2014-12-15 19.32.35.jpg 162 KB
And I'm sorry to say they look terrible all over.
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What if you could pretend that you visited Wet Willie's River Ranch for real?
I bet this would have been the kind of merchandise you would have been able to buy there.
Posters, t-shirts and more!
http://www.redbubble.com/people/tonygraf/works/20913882-welcome-to-wet-willie-s
I updated some of the Wet Willie´s merch, I didn't like how the blur background looked so I changed it to a kinda sunset orange.
Get it here: http://www.redbubble.com/people/tonygraf/works/20913882-welcome-to-wet-willie-s
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Quoted from Fifty:I like it, but I'd like it better with just the raft, Willie and the dog. The only people that will "get" the shirt are pinheads and pinheads don't need WHITEWATER emblazoned across the front of it. A more subtle version would look cooler.
I was actually thinking about doing a raft only version but I like the dynamic that comes with the logo and the waterfall in the background.
Quoted from mbaumle:I agree. Even non pinheads looking at the shirt wouldn't get that it's a pinball machine. It's just too niche.
If you have just a raft, it just kinda looks like an old man with his dog are having a good time on an inflatable boat. With the logo behind, you know exactly what he's doing, and why it's so fun.
Nice job on the design, webdiddy!
Thank you!
Quoted from Cserold:Looks cool. If you could do a "distressed" version of the graphic on a NextLevel TriBlend t-shirt I would be all over that. Thoughts?
I might be doing some "weathered" version of my current shirts in the future, any of my other designs you would like to see with a more of a "vintage" look?
Quoted from Sciddleybop1980:Love it, love it, love it
Thanks, thanks, thanks!
Quoted from Elicash:I agree with this. Would be cooler if it was a little subtle. That way, pinheads will get it, but people that dont know pinball would just think it was a weird shirt. I like it.
Glad you like it but I think I'll stick with the logo version
Quoted from Fifty:It's too niche either way. Non pinheads looking at the t-shirt would just think "Hey, that guy is wearing a white water rafting t-shirt"
Oh, and this is just a small nit-pik detail, but the inner brim of the cowboy hat is supposed to be red, not white.
Yeah, you're right about the brim, it was the reproduction playfileds that had the incorrect white inner brims.
Quoted from thewool:Love this version even more!!!!!!!!!!
Haha! Thank you!
Quoted from Fifty:The red brim is perfect!
Glad you noticed
Quoted from Cserold:Yep, absolutely. Looks great. Do you have any control over the type of t-shirt used on that site? Figure out way to get that baby on a next level tri-blend shirt and you'd sell a bunch I bet. Best t-shirts in my opinion and not too expensive
The buyer is able to select between an array of different type of shirts.
Here's a triblend for example: http://www.redbubble.com/people/tonygraf/works/13866797-pinball-game-of-skill?p=triblend-tee&style=triblend-tee&body_color=black_triblend&print_location=front
Quoted from Cserold:Can you send direct link for the distressed WH2O on a tri blend?
I'm in the process of making a "vintage" version of many of my shirts. I'll get you the link as soon as it's available, it should be in a couple of hours
Quoted from TheLaw:Just for the record I bought the original shirt from webdiddy probably a year ago and love it. Quality shirt that stays nice and soft after a year of washing.
http://www.redbubble.com/people/tonygraf/works/20913882-welcome-to-wet-willie-s?c=408989-pinball&p=t-shirt&ref=work_collections_grid&style=mens
I'm glad you're enjoying your shirt, I agree the quality of the shirts are really nice.
Quoted from Sciddleybop1980:Out of interest, how many duvet covers do you sell. Can't quite convince the wife on that one!!!
Haha, I have not sold a single duvet cover Maybe you can convince her to at least get a throw pillow
Quoted from Cserold:Can you send direct link for the distressed WH2O on a tri blend?
I have sent you a PM with the link, the shirt is up now and the rest will follow soon, I just got a Moderation notice that I need to create a classified ad, kinda strange because I was looking for feedback.
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Quoted from dmacy:Yes, but most people have removed it. Apparently it was done to prevent a lot of drains out the outlane, but most here have said it’s been negligible and more pop bumper action with it out.
Sweet. I'll remove it then.
Quoted from zene10:Possibly a bad opto. Otherwise, the disk below the Bigfoot that alternately blocks/allows the optos to be read could have a piece broken off of it.
Try the diagnostic tests: Bigfoot head position - this would be the most useful. It should read UP, Diverter, Player when stopped in each of those respective positions.
Also try the Bigfoot Opto test.
Thanks, I will give it a try.
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