Just joined last night

Quick look over the machine and I have a few things I need to know!
The backbox flashers are weak.is this normal?
I have one sunken insert.the 16 raft any advice?
Where do I get those cool little rafts!
Thanks

Should be handy to do with an arduino.
Im going to make my own.

What voltage is bigfoots motor?

What rom should I be running?
I need to dial in this game. So many sdtm with no ball save! There is a room with a ball save isn't there?

Hay.
Looking over this game I picked up and noticed this rubber. Supposed to be here?
It's in the pops. Blocking a route out towards the in/out lane. Excuse the filth!
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I also found a hair bobbin as a rubber!

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Good info there.
I've a feeling I'll be getting rid of it and the star post when I strip her down.
Another quick one.
My shooter Lane switch is fine but the game goes into ball search after 5seconds.with the ball in the lane. This normal? I'm on an early rom.

I'll wait till I upgrade my rom and see what happens.
Actually now that I think about it.
If you do a hard launch and the ball goes SDTM the ball doesn't get kicked back out.
But.....
you do get 5000 points.
must be a stuck switch/opto somewhere.
That would explain the ball search too.
If someone could do me a favor and post a pic of the switch test levels screen that'd be great!

Thanks

Thanks I will look back over then.
Just checked my rom is p6
Dont see p6 on the list of roms

Need a favor !
could someone take a pic of the bottom right of their driver board?
I have a wire off.
But every thing checks out against the manual.
the red wire is bundled up with the single yellow in J136.
Thanks
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J134-9 red-grey (lamp row 8 ) to coin door board.
must be for the start button?
Its not working but i guessed bulb

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Top man skypilot!

and thanks to calvin for the info.have roms on order.
found some leaky caps on my driver board too
reading the manual I also found I have the wrong bulbs in the topper
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I wont bore you with too many pics but this was a dirty dirty girl!
I think I was the first to take it apart.

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Look at this filth!
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Cleaned up nicely and back together for the moment.

Cool project,
shame about the price of the board tho

I'd hardly say its a no brainer
You'd have to upgrade the speakers too.
If my sound board was dead yea Id buy one.
same goes for DMD
So you ordered one tamoore?

Does this look right?
Doesnt to me and it's not this way on my getaway, but it seems to work.
It's the apron. This is the only way the screws line up.
Thanks
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Cool . thanks.
No lift arm here either.
Really getting into this game.
Scores still suck ass tho!

Look at the manual,
find out what transistor controls it.
If you touch the metal tab on the transistor to ground with a piece of wire (the mounting plate in the bock box will do) doe it fire the bumper?
but before that.......does it fire in test?

How do you choose?
Im on a old rom atm

I'm not an expert by any means but I'd say that transistor is busted.
Thats where I'd start anyway.

Ah I did know that,I thought you meant you could pick before you launched the ball.

OK. I haven't got many other ideas but one thing I'd try before I'd take the board out it is.
Find the wire the corresponds to q48
Pop it out and stick it in with one of the other pops and make sure it's firing.
If it does you'll know for sure the problems further up the board.
after that I wouldn't be comfortable giving advice!

The snow makes no sense,
white water rafting is a summer sport.
The playfield now looks totally out of place

What ever floats your boat.
Pretty sure rafting is a sport.
I think it looks better with bigfoot and the normal plastics.
bigfoot hotfoot now makes no sense and the dots arnt tied to the game anymore.

I ordered the spine chiller and watch out for the drop decals.
The watch out for the drop doesnt suit the plastic!
Looking at a few pics there seems to be 2 styles of plastic for the disaster drop .
heres mine
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Hmmm I might be with you on the watch out for the drop one.
The other one looks good imo.
Nice quality decals tho

Yes i am a dope

My whirlpool lit lamp has stopped working I think it's lamp number 55.
But the Manual says this lamp is not used?
Where are the diodes for the two lamps?
I'm going to look at it later hopefully.
Thanks

got this sorted.A loose pin in a connector.nice and easy!

After i rebuilt mine it seemed to take longer for the ball to drain down the pool.
The ramp wasn't seated properly and that fixed it .
so i guess leveling could cause it

This was exactly my problem!

Pritty sure the heads off in that pic!

Got my missing mountain today!
Going to slap it in later tonight,
stay tuned

I put the comet led strips under mine.
They look the part but were throwing too much light out from under the boulders onto the pf.
So I made some cardboard "reflectors" to keep the light in.

Yep,
As usual the pics dont tell the truth,
the mountains just glow and dont light up around them too much at all.
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No idea why the whirlpool looks so bright but its not!

not 100% but is it during big foot bluff or camera craze?

Have you a pic of the board that makes it work? And a video of this in action?
I also agree about the white mountains.
Its like putting star wars toys in a sttng!

You could use model flock for snow

I think it looks good on the back mountain,
maybe a bit heavy on bigfoots cave tho,like icing on a cake!

I have a knocker problem,
It was working.
But now its not even in the coil test ?
It should be No.7 in the list but number 7s not there?
It skips form 6 to 10?
wtfs going on!
on rom Lh6 CC

Ok factory rest set brought it back!

When the ball is in the shooter land does your ball search go off?

Yep. I'm embarrassed!
Switch was registering but not registering when the ball was resting,
All sorted now.

Yea but it's been like this for 6 months........

How could anybody think that those leds look good?
Sickening is what it is.
Hood save

I put those strips under all my mountains too. They looks great but as you say you need to make shelfs to stop the light bleeding out all over the place.
The back is impossible to light evenly.
You should get the missing mounting mod.
It really ties the game together.

Looking sharp!
needs the missing mountain 2015-02-09 19.11.09.jpg

Either way this game needs the mountain!
Such a gaping hole in that corner

add Jurassic park lost world to that list

Im fairly sure mine feeds to the left flipper.
I'll check again later.

Sometimes my lost mine kicks sdtm or just dribbles out and goes out the left outlane.So frustrating.

Well get them out or you'll be in trouble.
That circuit is 14v (maybe 20v) so use 194s like the manual says!

I want to order the big foot light.
shipping to Ireland is $54
I guess I'll have to make my own.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/White-Water-Pinball-Machine-New-White-Water-Big-Foot-Blue-Monster-Led-Mod-/261849963719?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cf7795cc7

Yep.I'm in for one!get the missing mountain too.you owe it to your whitewater

Just go in reverse for when you take them out!

Light sand paper works for me.
1200 with water

Just bend the metal till it works.
also thats a diode and you should be able to reuse it!
solder should be fine

I dont know why anyone would give £20 for this?
Whats the difference between this and a led strip?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/WHITEWATER-White-Water-Pinball-Mountain-light-mod-/281189830297?hash=item4178384e99:g:~J4AAOSw2XFUiXgI

Have the balls ever been in another game?
They might be magnetised

Don't let the black spacer fall in under big foot either..............

Got a pic from the players perspective?

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The first one is I suppose!

That used to be available on ebay for alot less

Well Start at the start!
you must have a short.
pull out all the bulbs in that circuit ans see does the fuse blow.
then follow the cables and check every socket for a short.
look into the sockets and check theres no washers or nuts or lumps of solder in them.Ive seen that before.

Its fairly easy.
might be an excuse to get the ramps out for a clean

can we see them?
i'd like them too

That apron ramp is crazy!

That GI

The winter theme is so stupid,
Its a crime against pinball
its like converting an original donkey kong to a 2 player street fighter with a 16x9 lcd screen and light up buttons.

Any one know where I'd get a full set of pf plastics?
All seem to be out of stock

Thanks,
The shipping to Ireland is robbery.
about 50 dollers.
I bought a set for another game from the states recently and it was $30

Not in the new code!
Which I haven't tried............

I dont think its a surfboard,
Its supposed to be a canoe or kayak or something.

I hate to be a prick but that mod is just bad,
The metallic paint ?
The alloy wheels?
A surf board?
the text is all wrong.

In fact it looks like a PT cruiser!

I have one in my sttng,
If i could I'd have them in all my games.
saying that tho it all depends on what the community has put together.
sttng has all the music from the original soundtrack.
a guy is working on white water but PPS are giving him shit

I never understand why someone would put LEDs in a WH20!
It sucks the character out of it,
I dont care tho.mine looks lovely and warm!

I have the comet leds under mine and it looks fantastic!
I had to make some cardboard shapes to stop light leaking out under the boulders.

I've always wondered about my shooter spring.
I've bought the "right one" from 2/3 different shops but never found one i felt was right

Or just dont use LEDS.
Off all the games that dont need leds WH2o is near the top!

mine looks like allibasters,
I used comet strips in white under all the mountains including big foots cave.
I did find a lot of white light washing out from under the mountains onto the PF so made up some thin cardboard "blocker" that go under the mountains to stop the light going out

Looks like big foot blew his load all over your game

Just put white ones under the mountains.
red looks silly

Try changing the swich matrix ICs.
The socketed ones just below your NV ram .
If you put 12v down the switch matrix then will blow.
Its been an age since I did any fault finding on B/W games (or any games at all!)

Thats definitely toast all right!!!
Happy to help,

Good,
I remember when I exploded that IC in my getaway.
my heart sunk

mine been in the box 2 years waiting.........

I finally got around to installing my pin2dmd and pinsound boards in my WH2o.
The Jakusu hillbilly mix is great.Highly recommend it
I wasn't into it at first but it's really grown on my FAST.
Just waiting for the full colour pin2dmd file now.Due this week on VPuniverse.

Maybe over the weekend.
He hasn't redone any of the music.
Just new callouts with voice actors.
I know endproduct is doing one also.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/white-water-colorisation-for-pin2dmd-by-endprodukt#post-5645193

Anyone got a copy of the files they could share?
Thanks

Edit-didnt see the donation not,will be in contact!

Thanks for the hard work!

mine has been like this for years.
Only happens when i guest plays.......so annoying .

While I've never had an issue with the original I'm curious to see what it would be like!
Now I'd love to see a TFTC alt trans!

Dont use a drill.
Use a hole debur tool.

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Is it white water or planet of the apes?

Silly looking IMO

none of them

Years ago I bought a 110v STTNG that was imported to Europe and plugged into a 220v socket.
I bought it off the guy for 500e as it stood and as far I remember it was a very very easy fix.
There is a MOV metal oxide varistor near the switch and it had blown and I think that was it!!!