Just picked up my grail pin last week!

I've already had the ball stuck here twice. I've done some searching on this forum and I can't find anyone that has had this issue. Has anyone else experienced this? If so, what was your fix? I'd rather not have to dremel away any of the mountain if I don't have to.

Thanks!

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It's not the flipper that does it - it's Bigfoot. The coil that operates his "push" is correct: AE26-1200. Odd that it's happened twice in 3 days. I'm thinking that maybe the "log" is at the wrong angle it's launching the ball upward. Or perhaps Bigfoot just doesn't know his own strength?

My two cents when solving a similar problem on my WH20: While testing switches during the "switch edge test" make sure that the correct switch number is associated with each switch you test (as found in the manual pages 2-42 and 2-43). I had an issue where switch 48 was registering as switch 68 due to a mis-wiring issue.

Re-read post #4582. You have everything you need.

I don't know if I'd would ever go with white mountains or a chrome coin door.... but that looks spectacular.

I get that a lot of purists would just stay with warm white lighting or incandescents (I get it), but you were really able to get all of the colors out of the translate. What did you use there? Mine still looks fairly "yellowish", even with cool comet 2smd lighting.

Mine does the same thing. During gameplay it will occasionally do it's "whistle and kick" a couple times in succession with no balls in the VUK. All other gameplay is normal, including ball lock and multiball operation.

Did you ever find the solution?

I've got a pair on the right sling, and a pair at insanity falls.

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I see you went with the mirror blades as well. I tend to prefer them (slightly) over the art blades. They help add some depth and "dazzle" to the playfiled. In a lineup, they help tie all the machines together IMO.

They were one of the few things that came with my pin that I didn't change. I have custom cards on all of my pins, some that I have made, some from other sources like here:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/custom-apron-cards-printable-versions-only#post-5153032
or here
http://www.pinballrebel.com/game/pins/instruction/index.htm

I just fixed this same issue on mine.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/white-water-random-phantom-balls-in-the-vuk-to-the-upper-pf#post-5771028

The key to finding the problem was to play the game with the glass off, and rolling the ball through all the switches until I found the one that falsely triggered the VUK.

Incorrect. look closely at the circuit board once you've removed it. Look at the traces on the circuit board and you will notice that one trace coming from the bulb socket is connected to all the other bulb sockets. That trace is not the problem. The OTHER trace coming from the bad bulb socket will lead to a pin where the wire connector attaches to the board. That is most likely the culprit. Reflow solder there. You might as well reflow to all of them while you're at it though (reheat the connection to liquify the solder, you don't need to add solder in most cases).

Yes,

You can download the files, unzip them, and listen to the music to see what you think.

With Pinsound you can load both the original and reorchestration sounds into your pin. You can even switch between the two when the game is playing. I have a Getaway with 6 different sound packages in it (5 of which I made).

Is this the area for your adjustment?

Bull 50.pdf

It doesn't look like anyone has posted a shaker program for W2H0 yet. You can create your own... the shaker can be programmed to activate when certain sounds or events occur during the game. https://www.pinsound.org/motion-control-shaker/

I have a PinSound shaker in my Getaway... and I'm very happy with it.

A game lasts longer and you'll have more progress... Not sure what you're asking that's not obvious.

The explanations of all the settings are in the manual. The settings for "extra easy, easy, etc. are on page 1-19.

If you don't have a manual you can download it here.
https://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=2768

I have the Pinsound in mine with the newly recorded (stereo) re-orchestrations of all the music. I love it.

I don't know if there is an easy way to hear the new orchestration other than going to the Pinsound website and downloading the original and new orchestrations. If you a select any random music track from each, play them and compare (just on your computer) I think you will find that the new reorchestration is a MASSIVE upgrade... and I'm not even an audio guy and I was pretty happy with the orginal.

If you need some specific instructions, just send me a PM. I'm happy to walk you through it.

A sound package contains 4 folders in Pinsound. Music, voices, sound effects and "jingles". Each folder contains all the sound files. You can easily create you own sound package by selecting only certain folders or sounds. In other words, if you want the new stereo music files but are used to the original call-outs, you just switch the folders. If you want change a sound effect you can install your own .wav file in it's place.

BTW, I didn't like the voice files at first either. But they grew on me.

I used this. It holds really well, but you can remove it in the future if you really need to. Think of it as industrial rubber cement.

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Look under the playlfield. I think your funnel is not seated correctly.

I don't have my game in front of me, but when I re-ramped mine I think I had the same problem. As I recall the end of the funnel fits through a circuit board "donut" for the whirlpool lights. On mine, the funnel was hung up on the circuit board instead of passing through it... or something like that... it was years ago.

Ditto. On my game I've never had the ball roll out of the "escape spot". It always makes it to the end of the ramp (left flipper).

Maybe this will help:
Who goes white water rafting in the snow?
It's a Bigfoot, not a Yeti.
All the artwork in the center of the playfield, the translite, the topper, and the outside of the cabinet include brown rocks.

But hey - it's your game... do whatever floats your boat... er ... raft.

Maybe true, but year's ago I went on a family weekend rafting trip down the South fork of the American River in the Sierra Mountains. We rafted past Sutter's Mill and the Marshall gold discovery site that started the American Gold Rush. The American River does have class II to class VI rapids along it's journey although we didn't go through the class V or class VI areas. Rafting tours are April - October in case anyone is interested: https://blog.aorafting.com/california-rafting-season-update/. Great fun... I even remember our guide's name ("Aurie" ... not "Willy" unfortunately).

Playing WH2O always reminds me of that trip. There's even a section called "Barking Dog" and "Deadman's Drop" on the South fork, which of course sounds like "Disaster Drop".

And the "Tunnel Chute" on the Middle Fork is fairly iconic:

when you get to it, it almost looks like there's no way out.

I reluctantly added trees to mine just to see how it would look - I used glue that will allow me to remove them once I come back to my senses.

A few thoughts:
1. I made them different heights - they look a (little) more natural that way IMO
2. I like that they're scaled small - it makes the rock formations look larger
3. I kept them on the lower areas - I think it makes the upper areas to appear to be "above the timber line", which again is a scale thing.
4. They hide the missing mountain mod's "featureless" surface, which has always bugged me a little.

My four cents.

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I used triple thick clear spray on them prior to putting them in the game. I have't had any "particles" shed from them (and it's been about 6 months since they were installed).

I don't recall where I picked up the missing mountain mod (I'm sure someone else will chime in here), but I painted them both to match the color of the boulders in my game. The colors were way off and very sloppy on both of them. yzfguy posted a method using a furniture touch-up marker in this tread which looks nice as well (even though he "humbugged" my trees! ha ha).

I just used Krylon triple thick glaze. But you could use just about anything. Maybe even hairspray.

If you put it into switch edge test, what are you getting for switch 61? Assuming a closed switch there, take the balls out and check the status of the trough and lock switches.

Marco has it
https://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/PR170

Sounds like you have a bad (or mis-wired) diode somewhere. Maybe at the Extra Ball target (intersection of column 5 and row 4). I suggest putting it in test mode and trip each switch individually to see if other switches are registering. A pattern should emerge....

That could also be the cause of your canyon entrance switch problem.

If there are a lot of switches out all at once, that suggests a problem in the switch matrix. The only one that would commonly throw an error is #58, since it isn't activated in game play very often.