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Quoted from rdbronko73:Think I'm going with a dark metallic blue powder coat.
Having HEP do a WH20 for me and was considering this as well. Would you mind sending pics when done? Anybody else have pics of dark metallic blue powder coat?
Quoted from webdiddy:Anyone liking this design?
I have to say I think it turned out pretty sweet!
http://www.redbubble.com/people/tonygraf/works/24727501-white-water?asc=u&ref=recent-owner
Looks cool. If you could do a "distressed" version of the graphic on a NextLevel TriBlend t-shirt I would be all over that. Thoughts?
Quoted from webdiddy:Something like this you had in mind?
Yep, absolutely. Looks great. Do you have any control over the type of t-shirt used on that site? Figure out way to get that baby on a next level tri-blend shirt and you'd sell a bunch I bet. Best t-shirts in my opinion and not too expensive
Quoted from webdiddy:Haha! Thank you!
Glad you noticed
The buyer is able to select between an array of different type of shirts.
Here's a triblend for example: http://www.redbubble.com/people/tonygraf/works/13866797-pinball-game-of-skill?p=triblend-tee&style=triblend-tee&body_color=black_triblend&print_location=front
Can you send direct link for the distressed WH2O on a tri blend?
Quoted from n1teowl:I have an LED version in my White Water and it looks great. You have to do a little tweaking out of the box to optimize the brightness and contrast, but after you get it dialed in it looks awesome. Bright and clear, and maintains the original DMD look.
Would you mind sharing what settings were ideal for you? Thanks for the feedback. Appreciate it!
Quoted from chadderack:Having some serious buyer's remorse right now. And no, I'm not selling
Sorry, what do you mean? Can you explain for us low intellect types?
Quoted from Kneissl:Got power on the bigfoot coil?
What's the easiest way to get to the coil?
Quoted from Kneissl:I guess from underneath?
This coil is between the main and upper playfields. Looks like I may have to remove upper playfield but just wanting confirmation of that
Quoted from dsuperbee:First, the fuse for that coil has multiple coils on it. If the other coils work, fuse is fine.
Most likely the drive and/or predrive transistor is bad, and needs to be replaced. Information on how to test those can be found on pinwiki.com under the WPC link.
Thank you. All other coils worked. This was a HEP restore I just got back and the connector had been conveniently extended to a very accessible location. It had come undone while I was messing around. Just had to re-seat and is well. Thanks for the help!
Quoted from Tjohejsan:Finished my game, so now i am in the club
It was very dirty when i bought it.
Lots of new parts and lots of cleaning
Whats left now is to changed all the 3 flipper parts.
Awesome!! Looks great.
Hey guys. Has a completed custom pinsound package been released by anyone in the community yet? I've been following this thread by Endprodukt (https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/white-water-reorchestration-for-pinsound-and-warren-davis ) but doesn't look like its done quite yet. I seem to remember another option available that may have been completed. Would appreciate any download links if there is anything out there. Thanks! -- Craig
Quoted from Cserold:Hey guys. Has a completed custom pinsound package been released by anyone in the community yet? I've been following this thread by endprodukt (https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/white-water-reorchestration-for-pinsound-and-warren-davis ) but doesn't look like its done quite yet. I seem to remember another option available that may have been completed. Would appreciate any download links if there is anything out there. Thanks! -- Craig
Bumping this. Have a HEP restored WH2O with a Pinsound 1 board. The Pinsound board has not worked correctly since day one. Now the latest firmware update for the board causes the game to produce NO audio after starting a game. Can't get a reply from the Pinsound guys over the last few days on this recent development (they are typically pretty good at replying). Just frustrating to have an unplayable game. Is anybody else successfully running the Pinsound 1 board (not the new Pinsound Plus Board) with the latest Pinsound firmware on their White Water?
Quoted from FlippyD:Are you 100% sure you have the correct data on your USB stick? What other problems have you had with PinSound? I have PinSound in three games and the only issues I've ever had were with bad or incompatible USB sticks or with setting up the data on the stick incorrectly. These are all original PinSounds running older firmware.
It's summer vacation season for Europeans so the Pinsound guys might be slower in replying.
Hey there. Thanks for the reply. Yes. I've got 4 pinsound boards on various games. Everything has worked great except this WH2O. I've loaded and reloaded the WH2O sound package several times over the last 18 months. With the second to last firmware upgrade everything worked great except the game would randomly max out the volume at various stages in the game and blow you ears out. Earlier firmwares had other issues. I lost all sound with the most recent firmware update.
Quoted from Davi:I have seen your videos. Can you post a picture about the board, showing us the status LED's? Is the Running LED lit?
After the firmware upgrade, what is your volume level (at service buttons)?
You can try this:
Pick up another USB. Copy a small sound package file into this drive. Any package is OK, no need to be White Water. Let the board unpack it, then start a game. Activate switches and modes as much as you can, you have to hear some sound/callouts. If not, then seems you have a hardware issue.
Thanks for the reply. Appreciate it. I’ve already tried multiple usb drives. My main volume is at around 12 or so. Ive posted some pics of the board and the leds on the board
5818F540-3F16-40D5-9449-B048340B78BD (resized).jpeg782258B7-5D1B-48C8-BEDF-1AB756BFD457 (resized).jpeg9EE77B3A-9647-409B-AC3D-AC2912B1C620 (resized).jpegQuoted from Davi:Seems OK at first sight.
I have only 2 idea, simple crosscheck:
1. Can you move the USB from Fish Tales to White Water or from other pin?
2. Can you swap Pinsound board between games?
Yes. I can try to swap usb. Could also try to swap the boards if necessary. So, the FT sound package will work in WH2O? Also here is the Pinsound debug data if this helps at all.
31/12/1969 18:00:18.357 INFO Log file enabled : /tmp/pinsound///pinsound-debug.log
31/12/1969 18:00:18.362 INFO Init sound buffers
31/12/1969 18:00:18.365 ERROR OpenSerial: Unable to open /dev/ttySP0
31/12/1969 18:00:18.368 INFO OpenSerial: Opening /dev/ttySP1
31/12/1969 18:00:18.412 INFO hardwareDecode found #FIRMWARE (Version)
31/12/1969 18:00:18.413 INFO Version firmware : 0057
31/12/1969 18:00:18.414 INFO Version software : 18.8.1
31/12/1969 18:00:18.415 INFO hardwareDecode found #HARDWARE (PCB release)
31/12/1969 18:00:18.416 INFO PCB hardware release : 1.4
31/12/1969 18:00:18.417 INFO hardwareDecode found #VOL (Volume)
31/12/1969 18:00:18.418 INFO Hard volume: 79
31/12/1969 18:00:18.419 INFO Decoder not set, ignoring volume
31/12/1969 18:00:18.471 INFO FIRMWARE VERSION : 0057
31/12/1969 18:00:18.474 INFO Custom boot sound
31/12/1969 18:00:18.476 INFO Send STATUS to PSoC
31/12/1969 18:00:20.092 INFO PSengine init
31/12/1969 18:00:20.093 INFO Init starting...
31/12/1969 18:00:20.638 INFO Audio groups initialized
31/12/1969 18:00:20.649 INFO Groups initialized
31/12/1969 18:00:20.650 INFO Init done
31/12/1969 18:00:20.651 INFO Launching initpinsound
31/12/1969 18:00:20.654 INFO Listing mix set : White_Water_Original
31/12/1969 18:00:20.658 INFO Load mix directory : White_Water_Original
31/12/1969 18:00:20.659 INFO Opening mix : /tmp/pinsound///audio/White_Water_Original
31/12/1969 18:00:20.661 INFO Loading : config.pinsound
31/12/1969 18:00:20.670 INFO Loading : jingle
31/12/1969 18:00:20.743 INFO Loading : licence.txt
31/12/1969 18:00:20.745 INFO Loading : music
31/12/1969 18:00:21.381 INFO Loading : sfx
31/12/1969 18:00:23.232 INFO Loading : single
31/12/1969 18:00:23.253 INFO Loading : voice
31/12/1969 18:00:24.342 INFO Loaded V2 sound package
31/12/1969 18:00:24.344 ERROR Cannot find or open file : /tmp/pinsound///.mix
31/12/1969 18:00:24.345 INFO Init mix bufferizing sequence
31/12/1969 18:00:24.346 INFO Init sound buffers
31/12/1969 18:00:24.348 INFO Current ducking values: jingle: 0.05 sfx: 0.9 voice: 0.85
31/12/1969 18:00:24.349 INFO Play boot jingle
31/12/1969 18:00:24.351 INFO Jingle default volume: 10%
31/12/1969 18:00:24.353 INFO Opening music file : /tmp/pinsound///audio/boot.wav
31/12/1969 18:00:24.370 INFO send READY
31/12/1969 18:00:24.371 INFO run Engine
31/12/1969 18:00:24.374 INFO Bufferizing started
Quoted from Davi:You can hear some FT jingle/sfx/voice in other games. I have tested T2 sound quality in TZ with this way.
Quick update on my pinsound issue. I put the Flash drive from FT in WH2O and, what do you know, we have sound. It's funny to hear the background music of FT playing on WH2O. I am now going to try and put the WH2O package on the thumb drive I was using in FT. I don't think this is going to work, however as I've already tried multiple thumb drives in WH2O. If this next test doesn't work, I think this pretty much confirms it is a software issues specific to a combination of the latest firmware and the WH2O sound package that is available on the Pinsound website. Would you agree?
EDIT: Also noticing that there is a ".mix" file in the root of my FT thumb drive and this file does not exist on the WH2O drive. If you look at the pinsound debug log above it shows some sort of error trying to access the .mix file. Hmmm?
Quoted from Duvall:If it were me, I’d run and pickup a new thumb drive, download a new copy of the sound package and see how that works. You could then also try this new setup in FT.
(Might also try downloading another copy of the new firmware and re-flash also. )
Done this twice already with different thumb drives.
Quoted from Cserold:Quick update on my pinsound issue. I put the Flash drive from FT in WH2O and, what do you know, we have sound. It's funny to hear the background music of FT playing on WH2O. I am now going to try and put the WH2O package on the thumb drive I was using in FT. I don't think this is going to work, however as I've already tried multiple thumb drives in WH2O. If this next test doesn't work, I think this pretty much confirms it is a software issues specific to a combination of the latest firmware and the WH2O sound package that is available on the Pinsound website. Would you agree?
EDIT: Also noticing that there is a ".mix" file in the root of my FT thumb drive and this file does not exist on the WH2O drive. If you look at the pinsound debug log above it shows some sort of error trying to access the .mix file. Hmmm?
Final post here on Pinsound issues. I put the FT pinsound package on the thumb drive that was in WH2O. Worked flawlessly in FT...so the thumb drive was not the issue (as expected since I already tried multiple in WH2O). I also put the WH2O files on the drive that was in FT and nothing changed in WH2O...no sound at all when you start a game. From the errors showing in the debug log posted above and with all this testing, my conclusion that this is a a software issue with the latest firmware and the "White_Water_Original" sound package posted on pinsound.org. I haven't found anybody successfully running latest firmware with a Pinsound 1 board on WH2O. Others are successfully using the Pinsound PLUS board on WH2O.
Got an email back from Nic and Tim from pinsound. Confirmed they are both on vacation and can't help right now.
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:Those Euros take their vacations serious over there!
Isn’t like 1/3 of the year scheduled for vacation?
Quoted from Davi:Have you ever tried to copy the files by yourself? Sometimes I had issues, the board was unable unpack the zip properly. Copy the content of zip file using computer, the entire White_Water_Original folder under the "audio" folder on the USB.
Last hint: contact Endprodukt, I am sure he has a working package/firmware combination (he is working on WH2O reorchestration).
This is a good idea. Will try to manually unpack the package to the thumb drive
Quoted from Duvall:Did you try the file with the “remade call Outs”?
http://pinsound-community.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/250-white_water_remade_callouts/
Thank you! Will download and try this as well
Quoted from Cserold:This is a good idea. Will try to manually unpack the package to the thumb drive
Thank you! Will download and try this as well
None of this worked unfortunately. Will put the little gorilla down for a nap and wait patiently until the pinsound guys return from their epic european vacation.
Quoted from delt31:thanks - there is a very minor wrinkle but the topper is really stunning. It's a HEP restore and the new nicest pin I've ever owned and I only like nice pins. I'll take some pics too - such a great look game in general and hard to find in very good quality (not just a "nice" one).
Sweet. Chris did a WH2O for me as well. Curious...what color did he paint inside of cabinet and the metal piece at top of back box? Did he do black or blue on yours? Very nice topper indeed!
Quick update for anyone that has been following my issues with Pinsound 1 board in WH2O. It dawned on me that I had a factory pinsound board (with factory firmware) sitting in an IJ back box that I restored...still waiting on finishing rest of game. I took this board with the old firmware and put in WH2O using the latest sound package from pinsound website. It worked like a charm. To make sure the board I had in WH2O wasn't bad, I put that board into my Fish Tales and it worked like a champ in there.
Summary: Do NOT put a Pinsound 1 board in a WH2O unless you are using a firmware at least older than the last 2 (maybe 3) releases. I don't know for sure about the newer Pinsound+ board (I at least know of one other pinsider that is successfully using Pinsound+ board with no issues on the previous firmware version)
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