Anyone looking at selling or trading for something in my collection (except congo)?

Wtb wh20.

Located in buffalo ny. Cash or potentially a trade of the shadow

Going to look at one of these bad boys on Sunday and super pumped to possibly be purchasing.

I've read a bit about planking on these playfields, but are there any areas in particular on the pf I should really pay attention to?

Thanks!

Is there a general area where planking usually has occurred?

Another quick question: The pin I'm looking at may have a crack on that center ramp, the one that is generally cracked by the green lock target. I've seen repros with the ramp flap attached, but are there any other things I'd need to rivet onto a new one if I choose to purchase? Not into riveting!

Are there any cliffys for the ramps besides the two target protectors and the upper pf divot protector?

Edit: cliffy found.

Thanks.

Great. Thanks Judremy

Really pumped. Kinda nervous as it's a bit expensive.. but sure it'll be worth it. Has a great topper too...

I'll post pics sunday should things work out.

Let me get this straight, as it's listed differently in different places:

the Manual lists a ramps as Suicide Canyon Ramp, but I've seen the same ramps called the Disaster Drop Ramp, as well as the Spine Chiller Ramp.

Are these denoting the same ramp? (the one to the right of the green lock target?

So Suicide Canyon Ramp = Disaster Drop Ramp

Edit: F'N CONFUSING!

So Spine Chiller Ramp is the ramp to the left of the green lock targets?

That's why it was confusing. The Manual calls disaster drop the suicide canyon ramp.

I think I have it straight now.

Thanks guys. Hopefully grabbing one this weekend!@

Well drove 2.5 hours one way to see a white water. Saw pics first, looked nice.

After phone talks with seller, I go see it: DMD completely gassing out, planked, cracked plastics, ramps, topper was beat up.. etc etc. Credit dot too.

"oh.. the display is fine once it warms up".
All things not told to me prior. I even asked about this stuff. I really had to bite my tongue.

Seller would've let it go for $3300. LOL!!!!

I passed and drove home... another 2.5 hours.

SO If anyone's got any leads.. still looking.

Cool man. Keep me posted.

Well said

I almost pulled the trigger, but so glad i didn't. I was convincing myself to redo cab decals and buying a complete ramp set.

Glad I made it out empty handed.

I'll find one. Hopefully without planking.

Got another lead.. going in tomorrow night......

This one looks promising...

Keep you posted!!

Search over I'm in! Still in my jeep. I'll post some pics tonight

Guys, I remember reading about the time it takes the ball to exit the whirlpool ramp and correcting it if it takes more than the usual time. I can't find the posting.

Is this a leveling issue?

Thanks guys.

I'll play it for a few weeks, figure out what it needs, and then shop it. I like to get most parts I'll need prior to shopping it out as I hate having a pin out of commission for long. Then again, once you start your shop, parts needed seem to just pop up.

Only pic so far. She's still in my jeep image.jpg

Need my pinball minions to help me move it tonight!!

Thanks buddy. I guess I will stop pestering you for yours now.

So not having the pin set up yet, I am having a hard time understand.

You're saying that the whirlpool ramp is connected together with the subway, and the subway should pull the whirlpool ramp down a bit.

I guess I'm not following..

I see. We may have different issues Industen.

The issue I saw in mine while at the seller's house was that the ball spun in the whirlpool a little bit too long as compared to most wh20 I've seen. In other words, the ball didn't get into the subway ramp fast enough.

I saw this mentioned on a posting somewhere.

Up and running!

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Thanks.

Damn thing wouldn't turn on. Thought it was still
Cold from an overnight in the jeep. Turned out it was the three prong adapter! Lol

Fellas: noticing the switch under the mountains near Bigfoot (canyon main #57) isn't registering most of the time. This switch is the one that makes the furry beast spin his head and growl.

My question: as its under the back mountains, is it just a matter of unscrewing a few screws to lift off the mountains to get to that switch to either adjust or replace?

Thanks

Great game!

Sure. Leds look mostly cointaker.

Sorry for the quality
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This was in the Baggie with the pin:

I think it's the same as pinball decals.
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Another opinion question : the waterfall effect is amazing on the topper. I do t have the clear dome and was planning on buying it. Does it cloud the effect? It's so prominent without the dome installed.

I'm fearing tonight when I get home and remove that mountain, I'll see the switch is cracked off the ramp some how. Ugh. Hope this isn't the case.

I could get my finger in there to test it, and the switch was just intermittent.. but felt tight to it's base (ramp).

Thanks for the vote of confidence. It seemed attached well, just flaky. Ordered a new one this morning, along with a few other parts just in case I can't adjust it correctly.

Popped off the mountains (2 screws, that's it!!) and the switch was fine. Just needed a bit of adjusting).

Bigfoot is now turning and laughing at me everytime I sink a whirlpool shot. Damn great game. Got to Willy's last night. Set high score, which wasn't very high, but good for me.

Really thinking about a new set of ramps. Think it's a total keeper.

AM thinking about that too. I need to get a junk ramp to practice on first, but it doesn't look difficult at all.

Did you just use new decals? Or did you flame around them?

So basically the process would be something like this:

1. remove decals
2. clean ramp thoroughly with simple green .. (something non flammable I'd think) or the dishwasher.
3. flame on
4. reapply new decals

Well at least you HAD to splurge for beautiful new ramps, right?

Was there any riveting to do?

Did they install easily? As in, did they fit well? Any riveting to do?

Is it me, or is the skill shot damn hard sometimes?

I ordered a replacement spring just to make sure the correct one is in there, but I make the shot about 4/10 times.

Hey man! Could be the spring!

Yep. That's mine.

My marco order arrived today, so I'll install the new spring this week sometime and post back.

Any of you guys apply any mylar on the pf where the ball drops from disaster drop? That area on mine is nice, and I'd like to protect it..

Thoughts?

So it was the spring.

Mine had a red one installed. The one ordered was the correct one. Much less stiff.

Another question: noticed no spring in my lock down lever. So I ordered one, but am not seeing holes to attach it to. Now wondering if there isn't supposed to be one.

Anyone?

Thanks. That's what I'm now thinking too as my bsd doesn't have one either. Oh well it was about a dollar.

I'm looking for a lower right boulder (the one with the "boulder garden" sign on it). Can be used or new as long as not cracked.

Thinking that wh20 is a keeper for a bit, so in my shopping of it, I will possibly look to replace the spine chiller (lower to upper) ramp that has a tiny chip at the entrance. SO, in doing so, I may get the lock target cliffys.

Does anyone have experience with them? I've read a bit and some people say they're difficult to fit, etc.

thanks jam

I may forgo the mantis protectors then, as the pin is huo at this point and won't see a ton of play.. enough to warrant protecting that ramp behind the targets.

Talk about the screwing into the playfield part.... They screw in from the bottom>?

Anyone have an uncracked one of these around (Boulder)?
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Yeah, it's not too badly cracked, but I'd like to redo it.

I'm guessing it's the one that most people have cracks on.

Anyone have any experience with the Lost Mine kickout decal?

Thinking of applying it, then spot clearing over it with either clear nail polish or something.

Anyone?

Nice!!

$50 shipped

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How the hell does one light RIVER 5 times without losing a ball?!!! Crazy..

Hoping spirit gives me class 6 at some point.

Does anyone have the directions on the install of the lighted Bigfoot mod?

Thanks. Must've gone to junk folder.

I think it's on ebay? Can't remember without googling.

This pissed me off this weekend: playing the rare 2 player game with my wife. SHE triggers the mystery prize and gets awarded the Class 6 river award!

It probably only comes up like 10% of the time. Not adjusting the settings either!

Nice write up.

I plan shopping mine in a few months. Just topside though. I've done a few pins who I up for the challenge.

Any issues of note to really watch out for with disassembly/reassembly?

I'm going to try to reuse all ramps by flaming except disaster drop.

How long did it take you to find that!??

Nothing beats out the moment you find a short or simple fix for a problem on a pin. Best feeling ever. (I have no kids yet)

Anyone have any extra backbox decals>?

Damn good story MOT.

I've only been to Wet Willy's a few times, but haven't be able to reach class 6.

I love Wh20 and liken it a lot to The Shadow (more specifically completing the scarf to get to final battle). However, I give wh20 the edge as I don't care for the theme of Shadow.

Yeah, I believe rev 6.

It does have hold bonus which keeps class level I believe. If I don't get a hold bonus, the levels start over from ball to ball.

In looking at the ruleset, says that "you must reach class 6 at some point during the game".

And I think that ruleset was written based upon early revisions.

Curious though, what's the point of holding the river award to the next ball? If you get that award once, it's good for vacation jackpot.

Maybe just for points?

ahh! Gotcha.

Spectacular game. It moved up ahead of congo for my favorite in the lineup, but just by a tad!

My kickout sends ball to right flipper and I'm able to kick it up through the rollover, spotting a letter.

Test switch 66. It may be the second switch in completing the ramp.

Think about it... If you get the ball up the ramp just a little past the gate, it wouldn't be fair to receive the millions, right? It should have to go all the way up the ramp.. and hit another switch. I believe TheLaw is correct.

I think the switch is 66 that probably is out or needs adjusting...may be an opto.

LEDs look killer in wh20.

If anyone wants to split a decal set w me let me know.

I just need the backbox decals.

Anyone use Painter's Touch deep blue spray paint to restore a white water backbox and then add new decals? Also, gloss, satin, flat??

Half tempted to do this: remove backbox. Sand. Putty dents and corners etc. Sand.. more sand and putty.. sand. Prime, then try this spray paint.

I don't have a air brush etc.

Any feedback? My white water backbox is dinged up a bit, but the cab is super nice.

Wow. That looks great. All with spray paint!?

Can you describe your process and the products used for backbox repairs ? What did you do about the yellow warning label?

Oh. Ok. You used a sprayer.

I was asking about a specific brand and color of spray paint in a can.

Thanks guys.

Really wanting to use painters touch.

Anyone know if it should be gloss or satin?

Thanks.

Really wanting to use something in a can. I don't have access to a spray gun.

Guys: what are you all using for the lights around the whirlpool? Mine has blue leds installed, and they look good. Just wondering what else may look neat.

I don't think reds look good here even though it's original. What about warm white leds?

What are you guys using?

Fellas: I'd like to paint my topper light shield black. It has some chips in the paint. Is there a good way to do this?

I was thinking sand it a bit with some sandpaper to rough it up, then just spray paint with black. Recommendations on gloss or satin? Brands?

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thank you

Interesting.

Thanks for passing it on.

I looked at my light strip at lunch and the wear spot that's chipping is right where those posts would be.

Now just to correct the damage. Thinking sand a bit, then just a little black flat spray paint. Anyone ever spray paint that thing?

Tell how for posterity.

So do you think maybe his shooter lane switch isn't registering?

Really, that shooter lane takes a HUGE beating with all the failed attempts at a softer plunge for the skill shot. Ball keeps rolling back onto it.

So it passed the finger test, but not the ball test?

Depends. Mainly mine comes towards left flipper.

@gac: my buddy would trade his congo towards a white water if you're interested. Lives in Buffalo

Anyone have any issues with the ball trough on their wh20? Sometimes the balls don't register as drained unless I whack the side of the cab. Im pretty sure it's not switch related, but that the balls aren't rolling onto the switches perfectly every time. I took it apart and cleaned it, but still every once and awhile I have to shake/whack the cab a bit to have the ball hit a trough switch to register as drained.

Anyone?

Yep. Same here.

I'm wondering if the trough is notched from use over the years and is catching the balls in a specific spot. Thought I saw a video on this somewhere.

I don't think it's flakey switches. I've run tests and they seem to work fine.

I can almost hear the ball move a bit when I shake the side of the cab. It sounds like it drops into place a bit and hits the switch.

Maybe its a notch somewhere though. That sounds logical.

It's gotta be either one of the switch arms is bent a bit causing the hold up/closure OR there is a notch somewhere on the trough assembly that needs to be sanded down a bit.

I actually think it's probably a switch arm that is misformed which causes a ball to sometimes not activate it correctly.

I saw that Skypilot but was thinking it was for the opto driven troughs starting with Indiana Jones. Think they work for older troughs?

"older troughs". Sounds gross.

Dremel could work to sand things, but I'm thinking it's switch arm related. Not that the switches don't work, but that an arm is bent causing the ball not to sit properly at times, and thus not activate the arm down into the switch button.

Did that already. Still trying to figure it out. Thanks though D

Exactly what I think is happening. Just annoying.

I have one in Fredonia.. and know a few up in Buff when examples. great Pin!

Hit vacation jackpot for the first time yesterday. Freakin' great!!!!

Was literally like a 45 mins game.