Congrats! How long? Trying to remember, at least a year? Looks great!.

Followed your revitalization thread of that machine all the way through. That is an absolutely stunning machine and you should be super proud of the work you did on it.

Mirrored BG on CPR website!

My score wasn't the greatest but this was a new high for me. One day I will get that elusive vacation jackpot also!

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Looking for a club member willing to leave the club within driving distance of So Cal.

Does anyone know which color flasher domes go where? My game has all blue flasher domes and I want to put the original colors back in. Marco lists both amber and red domes for White Water though and I can't find the part numbers in the manual. Is it red over the whilrpool eject, and amber in the back mountain?

All the flashers were red originally.

Thanks! One more question, the bounce back solenoid seems to be acting kind of strange. I know I need to adjust the switch (It's too low), but whenever it activates it sounds like it quickly pulses a few times instead of just firing once, and it also often goes off when I start a new game (It doesn't use up the bounce back or make an outlane sound though, so I don't think the switch is causing that). Is that normal?

As far as it operates in my game, no. Bounce back only fires in-game, when lit, and the ball hits the switch.

I would try adjusting the switch first, it sounds like it may be the problem.
Easy way to test, stick something like a business card between the switch leaves, to prevent the switch from triggering.
If the problem still happens, it's not the switch.
If the problem goes away, it PROBABLY is the switch.

Just wanted to report something I tried over the weekend which seems to have been successful.

I had been having problems with inconsistent kick-outs from the Lost Mine (where it would often hit just the tip of the right flipper, sometimes hit the middle of the flipper, and sometimes go SDTM).

I added washers to each of the screws that mount the back of the kick-out bracket (the two closest to the playfield edge), and it has changed the angle just enough that it now hits the right flipper to where it can be drop-caught consistently. A big improvement over the "choose-wisely" game that I had been required to play previously.

Okay, so I got my bounce back working just about perfectly. I just needed to adjust the switch, as before it was being triggered too early and it also wasn't straight, so it would rub up against the side of the playfield and get held down. Thanks for the help!

I did notice though that Big Foot's arms are not attached to his hands. His left arm is all covered in some sort of glue, but not his right. What is the best way to reattach them?

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Hey man, it originally had all red flasher domes. I would have gave them to you if I knew you wanted them.

Oh, that's okay! I've already ordered a few, they're pretty cheap. I'm interested in seeing which colors I end up liking better.

They were originally glued, but after 25 years the glue has failed. I had the same problem with mine a few years ago. I tried a couple of different glues, but couldn't find one that would work well.

Don't laugh, but I eventually used a staple gun and just put a staple through Bigfoot's "wrist". The hair hides it pretty well, and I haven't had the problem since.

Hot glue will fix just about anything--which is what it looks like was used.

JB Weld

There is a vinyl fabric and plastic glue made by Picture that works well. One thing to watch out for is, once you reglue the hands, the fur/hands can rub up against his chin and wear off the paint. I put a spacer down in the mech to stop that and it's worked well for years now.

"Loctite" not "picture". Effing autocorrect !

Goop works well on materials like that.

Contact cement.

Just so you know I tried several different glues, etc. They often held for about 2 days and then would fail. Most of them would either not attach to the fabric, or not adhere to the plastic.
I don't believe that I tried (or knew about) the fabric/plastic glue from Loctite. Assuming it works, that might be the best solution.

Well, since I used the staple, my bigfoot has been fine. I tried various other stuff (including hot glue) unsuccessfully.
The fur hides the staple pretty well (you can only see it for an instant when his arm is fully extended, and then only if you really look for it).

My machine has some annoying scratches on the backbox black plate just under the waterfall topper (where the posts from the shooter lane touch when the playfield is lifted up).

I have thought about trying to sand/repaint that area, but thought it might be easier to simply replace that part (if possible). Looking in the manual it seems to indicate that this is just part of the "backbox assembly".

Does this mean that the part is not available as an individual piece? If it IS available, does anyone have a source and/or part number?

Thanks.

Yes, that is the part I mean...do you have either a part number or source?
When you say "expensive" do you mean $100 or $1000?
At $1000, I'll paint it, but at $100, I would just buy it (as I'd spend more in time and materials, and it still wouldn't look as good as a new one).

mbeardsley... I agree with SoulRider911;

I took mine off, lightly sanded it and put a new semi-gloss black enamel paint job back on: EZPZ.

However, I didn't place any rubber pads on it. What I did was; slide 2 clear condoms over the 2 clear posts and their screw heads (down by shooter lane). Now its a rubber condom that touches it there.

Yes, I've already done that...now I need to deal with the scratches that are already there.

My sanding/painting skills are mediocre at best, so a new piece (assuming it is available at a non-ridiculous price) would work better for me.

Yes, this is helpful. Not sure why I didn't see it in the manual when I looked. I guess since it can't be found, I will have to go the paint route. Thanks.

Any recommendations on how to go about fixing this? The screw that was there just came out in the middle of a game and I know the hole is completely stripped. Normally I'd just fill it and drill a new, centered hole, but the current one is so close to the edge of the playfield that it's begun breaking through the side. If I try hammering a wooden skewer into the hole with wood glue it's just going to end up breaking out the side. I also don't believe that the screw that was there was original. Any thoughts?

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Might be worth getting a new mini playfield

I would remove the playfield and repair it before it gets any worse. Than from there you can probably repair easier without worry of it falling apart.

Nah, other than this it's pretty nice, I don't think it's worth replacing the whole thing.

Should I just clamp a block of wood next to it and then fill the hole as normal? That's the only way I can think of being able to fill it while keeping what I fill it with in place. Is there a better way?

Is there a way you could stand it on edge and have some glue seep into the wood before you clamp it to dry?

How about putting a T-nut on the bottom and screwing into that? Just a thought...

either way he needs to repair the wood before anything should be done.

I had the same prob, I took the lazy way out and took the screw to the hardware store and just got a slightly bigger screw (depends on how damaged it is though)

Put some toothpicks in there with wood glue. Works great.

The problem is it's busting out the side.

Well I'd rather not drill a hole in the ramp, especially since if I add one further away from the edge of the playfield the ball will be able to roll over it. I think I'm just going to go ahead and try filling it with something clamped against the side, and then drill a new hole. I think that should work fine.

Fill the hole just like you normally would with some toothpicks. Put a piece of tape over the side when you do it, so the glue fills the hole. You could use a thin CA glue and that will completely wick through and fill the hole. Then remove the tape, sand down the side if you need to and re-drill the hole. It'll be as good as new with no sign that anything was ever done.

Right. The glue is what holds it all together. The toothpicks fill the gaps so stock screw has something to bite. I repaired holes close to pop pumper holes that were busting out the sides. Works great. Tough break it's on the edge that you can see. Maybe some kind of clamp when gluing can help push it all in but probably always going to have a scar there.

Just finished a pretty thorough cleaning and waxing of my White Water! I completely tore down the game, and honestly dealing with the mini playfield wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. While I had the mini playfield out I went ahead and repaired the stripped out holes on it. I just ended up taping over the sides of the holes, clamping a wood block over that, and then filling them with toothpicks and wood glue, and it worked pretty well. One weird thing that happened though was that one of the toothpicks actually went all the way through to the bottom when I hammered it, and pushed away the last layer of wood on the bottom of the playfield. To fix it I just used more wood glue and clamped it against the playfield to dry. While these repairs don't look perfect, they certainly get the job done.

While I had the game taken apart I also removed some rust and used Scigrip to heal some cracked ramps. Time will tell how long those repairs last, but they're certainly better than before. I've also swapped out the flipper super bands for standard rubbers, which were included when I bought the game. Ever since I first got it set up I've felt it was surprisingly easy (I got the Vacation Jackpot within a week of setting it up), so between a fresh coat of wax and the standard rubbers, I'm hoping it starts kicking my butt!

Unfortunately, I can't play it yet as one of the opto bulbs in the Lost Mine kickout broke, so I have to wait until I receive some new boards from Marco first...

Also, I've got a question about the ramp at the bottom of the mini playfield. When the ball is traveling slowly, or rolling along the metal guide at the bottom of the mini playfield, it will get caught on the groove between the ramp and the playfield. This makes the upper playfield really easy since, instead of always exiting through the ramp, sometimes the ball will roll along the edge right back to the flipper, and sometimes even sit in front of it. The ramp seems like it's raised a little bit instead of being flush with the playfield. Has anyone ever had an issue like this before?

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