The solution is to turn of GI dimming. The downside is that you will lose some cool dimming effects. Once Herg comes out with his GI controller board, it will no longer be a problem.

I've had the same problems with the incandescent in the location you're talking about. I replaced it with an LED, as you have.

I've heard other people mention this and I suspect that this is a flipper problem that causes that bulb to get hit (especially if you're breaking it from a direct shot off of the flipper.) I've had two White Waters, I've put tons of games on them, and I've never broken that light. The ball's trajectory just doesn't get you to that spot. The most I could see is it breaking on a ricochet, but I've never personally had that occur. You might check to make sure you're flipper is alligned correctly. You might also check to make sure you've got the right coil in your flipper. It should have a red label (and I don't think that's listed in the manual.) I can get the specifics if you need it.

Putting a low profile LED there is an easy fix.

That actually may have been my issue. I think my flipper was set a little too far forward. I've since adjusted it back a bit after a rebuild. It definitely plays very different, closer to other wh20's I've played.

I know I have the right coil in there, since I replaced them all when I first got the game (had all the wrong ones in there). I'll check the alignment though-there's a possibility that's off.

I think the manual infers that you put a blue (FL-11629) flipper coil in the upper playfield. That's the wrong coil. The correct coil is red. There are some other differences as to how that flipper is set up too.

Ok, sold My TZ this weekend to another pinsider... Need to reinvest some of that back into my WH20. Who makes the best replacement boulders? Or they all about the same? Any thoughts?

Howdy all, I've had my WH2O for over a year and it's one of my faves Got the missing mountain mod, rafts on the ramps, mountain light mod...really like the color DMD, hoping to snag that and a twisted pin new embossed topper.

However, mine never came with the waterfall light shield. Can ANYONE help me get this allusive piece? Been watching eBay, Bay Area amusements, Marco, and several other pin sites...nothing. Even if I had a crappy one, one of a couple machinist friends could make me a nice one, lol. Please help

To be honest, you could probably just put a couple strips of Aluminum tape on the top of the clear bubble and get the same effect. It basically reflects and disperses the light.

Nope, that would not work. The embossed part of the aluminum (the part the twisted pins guys seem to almost have fixed) is really what makes the effect. If it was straight aluminum tape repro toppers would have been made years ago.

Check this:

ebay.com link: WHITEWATER Pinball Machine TOPPER CHROME Decal LICENSED

Edit: Maybe I'm unclear on what you're referring to, the reflective strip, or the actual topper decal?

The Aluminum tape would go on the bottom of the "tub" that surrounds it, not on it.

I have seen this lising for some time...what part is this for?

I have a topper but have not put it all back together. Is this piece needed?

I believe it goes on top of the head, behind the lights. It reflects the light onto the topper from what I understand. Of course, I'm not completely clear on this, because I don't yet have a functional topper.

Cool thread! Whitewater is by far the coolest game I have had and have no plans to sell. I found a cool kayak dude and made my own mod. The plastic shield was just begging for this to happen.

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Cool thread! Whitewater is by far the coolest game I have had and have no plans to sell. I found a cool kayak dude and made my own mod. The plastic shield was just begging for this to happen.

I also made my own topper water effect! Instead of the foil sticker.

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I painted the bezel a dark blue and placed the cheap Whitewater sticker on. I then carefully painted the water area with a detail brush "painting" sparkle glue that I bought at Michaels craft shop. It worked awesome and gives it an even nicer look in my opinion.

Well that's interesting.. do you have video of the topper in action? What about a link to the paint you used and maybe some tips on your technique?

I second all this

Does it look like the water is falling?

Bump! Gogotha, you've got me extremely curious. It looks great from the pictures, this may be a great alternative to the original or failed repro topper!

Has anyone had any luck getting a refund from Twisted Pins? I was an early order, and have been sitting on the thing for months without even opening it.. I've emailed, but haven't received a response.

Have you called him? His number is on his site. I spoke with him a month or so ago...real nice guy.

I love animals.

By the way, what spare parts should I keep on hand?
I have
・Rubber set ×2
・Steel ball ×3
・micro switch×2

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In my experience, the issue with the bulb getting smashed in that location has to do with there only being one rubber ring installed, instead of the two 2" rings that are supposed to be there.

One ring just doesn't provide enough resistance to keep the ball from hitting the bulb.

I am lucky on this, but I have yet to break that bulb.

(which means when I play tonight it is gonna get smashed)

How many people here have a diamondplated playfield and center post on their game?

everyone has diamond plate. centerpost is not normal unless it was European re-import.

Why is it that if everyone has diamond plate, there are so many games out there with wear on the playfield?

Most of the wear spots are either from kickouts/ball drops or because of planking. For some reason they were really prone to planking. You also see a decent amount of wear on these from uneven insterts. In certain areas the diamond plate is not enough protection.

Here is my attempt to make some comparisons:

Insanity falls:
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Boulder Garden:
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Disaster Drop:
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Whirlpool:
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No Way Out:
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Boomerang Bend:
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Secret Passage:
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Wet Willy's River Ranch:
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Man Overboard:
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Lost Mine:
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Mystery Canyon:
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Bigfoot:
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Diamond plated or not, eventually it is gonna wear. Metal vs Wood....metal wins.

Well who thinks Williams anticipated these games being so popular 20 years later?

I'm a bit confused because my game has had a LOT of play, but the playfield looks brand new. I've had to replace ramps and mountains and the upper playfield has seen better days. Perhaps the quality of the diamond plating varied and some games were better than others.

I personally think White Water is a game that generally wears less than other games. Which is amazing considering how fast and crazy the ball moves. Ours still looks great although the clear is starting to wear thin and you can feel the inserts a bit.

What failed repro topper...? I heard about a repro being made, but didn't hear about any failure... So how did it fail??

Love this game to bits, so addictive! The 5x playfield MAKES this game... very addictive strategy when you play to line this up with starting multiball!!

http://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/announce-whitewater-foil-topper-decal-reproduction/page/3#post-899810

Mmm, seems like all hope is not quite lost just yet, but the continuously failed attempts to get it right are discouraging to say the least, despite the guys resolve to get it right... Luckily for me I have a decent original topper on mine... sorry for you guys who are waiting for a decent repro!!

There's an operator near me who converted 10 WH2Os for some promo event, the toppers were taken off them all because it didn't fit with the re-theme... I bought some games off him recently and saw the stash of removed toppers in his store, but the guy is incredibly difficult to deal with... basically he's got too much money to deal with the likes of me and his stashed pins and parts just sit there... I've offered him a decent price for his entire stock, but he simply can't be bothered to deal with me, or anyone... I live in hope of getting hold of this lot one day... God knows what happened to the 10 re-themed pins!!??

HAHA. Karma will get him...

The right flipper stopped working suddenly.
Upper right flipper, left flipper, other solenoids , flasher , motor, etc is working well.
Should I change only this solenoid?

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As a repair newbie myself.....I would guess that a wire came loose along the line. I don't believe a coil will just stop working like that. I would check wiring/fuses first.

Is there a wire missing on that bottom lug?

Because the game is badass, and pretty much every example has had the ever-loving shite played out of it.