I just finished a major shop job and decided to install a color DMD...I think it looks great...

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Thanks for the advice...I fixed it! It ended up being the switch underneath the boulders not always registering. After some adjustments, everything is working perfectly!

Have a few Wh20 leads but anyone on here local to MD that wants to trade toward a Tron shoot me a PM .

You might want to either modify the current plastic protector that comes right before that switch or buy the modified plastic protector that replaces the OEM. That area is notorious for problems because the ball carries through that area with speed and often airballs to hit the switch (eventually breaking it).

Here's the modified plastic http://www.pinballdecals.com/PartsByGamePages/WhiteWater_Page.html (White Water Bigfoot Bluffs Ramp Cover (CLEAR))

Here's the part it replaces http://www.marcospecialties.com/pinball-parts/31-1726-3

There is info about the modification of the OEM part in this thread. Essentially, you use a smaller spacer in the hole closest to the switch to force the ball back down to the ramp instead of letting it airball up to hit the switch.

Of course you can't see any of this during gameplay because that area is covered by boulders.

https://pinside.com/pinball/market/classifieds/ad/56937

White Water For Sale

No Topper?

$4800 seems slightly steep if there is no topper included.

The play field looks pretty bad on that one.

The play field is certainly not "pretty bad" as you stated. I have provided a close up picture of the area around the 2 clear inserts that show wear. The price, as with all classified ads is negotiable.

Happy Thanksgiving!

My "disaster drop enter" optos is not working.
If i screw off the led opto "the whole bracket" it works fine. But the optos are not working thru the ramp when places where it should be. The optos are suppose to work thru the ramp?
The ramp is nice and clean?

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And i have some problem whit My big fot not spinning.
I have tried with a 9v battary directly to the motor. And it works fine.
What couldnbr wrong?

The optos should work through the clear ramp. What happens in switch test mode?

What happens when you are in test mode?

In test mode it works if i take the whole bracket off.
But when the bracket is placed where it should be, its not working.
The led optos Will not work thru the plastic ramp.

Try putting a thinner piece of plastic in front of one/both optos or even a piece of glass just to see if there is any change.

What i Saw, is that the optos hit the ramp at the bottom of the ramp where the ramp plastic is much thicker. It hits where the plastic goes from underside to Side of the ramp.
I have a gap betwen the playfield and the plastic ramp.
Hehe i hope you understand me, its hard to write in english

Well it’s obviously working just needs a bit of fettling to register through the ramp. One might say. A bit of jiggery pokery!!

Looking to order a set of rubber rings and post sleeves. Does anyone have a list or know an accurate or proper ones White Water needs?

Need help identifying the metal deflector next to suicide canyon ramp. Any leads? I already bought the wrong one once

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If you find one post details here. I have some random bit that works, but isn't for whitewater.

I think they are basically unobtainium. The part number isn't listed anywhere in the manual and the one that's readily available is for the other side of the ramp. I don't think it was included as part of the "A-15840 Suicide Canyon Ramp Assy" (I've seen that part NOS without the guide metal).

Your best bet is to contact Cliffy and see if he can make you one.

Anyone happen to have dimensions for that part that they could share?

SOLD

Congrats.

Seems like the early 90's B/W DMD games are red hot right now. I just forked over $2800 for a Fish Tales project, although it came with most the parts to complete it. Other than that, these games have been disappearing from the market in no time.

Thanks, I had numerous calls and several different "interesting" payment offers. As "Wimpy" always said, "I'll pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today". But finally had an out-of state buyer who loved it.
Gotta say, it was a blast to play.

Joined the club. Great pin to have in the collection. Gets lots of play time when we have friends over.

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Not so sure about the snow mods on a white water rafting theme, but it’s a beautiful game!

Hi all. My apologies if this question has already been addressed in this forum. My wife and I may have an opportunity to purchase a White Water that looks restored with LED's and what not. Not sure on the price yet but my guess prob in the 6k range. We currently have a Ghostbusters premium and Medieval Madness remake and have a TNA on the way. When I first got into pinball White Water was one of those games that got me very intrigued into the hobby. It was my go to game playing on the pinball arcade and I always play it at my local arcade even though the one there is not in the best condition and kind of plays like doo doo. My question for owners/ex owners. Do you feel this pin to be a great addition to a small collection and do you feel it has great staying power in your home? If you did sell yours, why? What are things that bug you about the game or things I should look out for that are problems. I love the game play and if I had unlimited funds I would of course have this in my house. Hell I would have every pin if money was not an issue! Would love to here your opinions and feedback. Thanks!

Great addition for a small collection certainly. Not the best game, but is very fun and would fit in well with the others in your collection.

What? Whitewater is an awesome game! It is packed full of features and shots and has great flow. Aside from the 6k price on this one, I can't imagine regretting picking up a wh20 for any collection.

Hard to tell if $6k is a good price on the restored Wh20 without seeing pics or all the details. I paid a little more for mine with a clear coated PF and all new decals and PF plastics but added a color DMD and 3d translite. My favorite game and getting hard to find in great shape. Only have 5 games and think it's a great game in a small collection. You can look at my collection past & present and see the competition it’s had and still remains.

Would have to be pretty nice @ 6k. Seems like I've seen some sell in the 4s recently, if those are players 6k isn't awful for a higher end example.

Thanks all for feedback/replies! My reason on the 6k price is because he is a local distributer and not just a home seller. I will get more details tomorrow. We have bought all are other machines from him minus the TNA which we just went through Spooky. He has a bunch of Bally Williams games which are all in amazing condition but are up there in price. He's got to make a buck off of them of course. Below is a pic. The Creech next to that one is in great shape as well and I have a played a bunch of games on that one. I believe he's selling that one for 7k. I have attached a pic of the Whitewater.

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Yes I do agree that it's pretty blinding. I will need to check it out in person but it seems very blue. Haha

It looks nice. LEDs are an easy change.

As for the game itself, it’s great all around. Unique and fun gameplay. Lots of ramps, if that’s your thing.

If it were me, I’d just wait for a game in similar condition to pop up for much less. But, if you’ve got to have it, you’ve got to have it.

It's definitely a great game and has all of the things you mentioned, but there are other greater games out there for $6K.

I'm glad I didn't pay anywhere near $6K for mine.

I saw that you mentioned your distributor also has a Creech for sale. If you are considering the Creature instead of the WH2O, my recommendation would be to go with the White Water. I have owned both for quite a few years and they both are keepers. The Creature is a classic, but is a relatively easy game to play. I like the WH2O a little bit more because of its uniqueness and it is more challenging to play.

I agree. I would love to own a Creature one day but I agree that WH20 is more challenging of a game and would like to have that one at the house instead.

Had a creature and now White Water. White Water is light years ahead in fun factor.

White Water is my only game and has been for years. I play it almost every day. $6k is very high unless it is in pristine condition. For that price I would say, (almost) no playfield wear (maybe a small amount by the vuk, some shooter lane wear, but no lost mine wear, and definitely no sign s of planking), no cab fade or damage, no broken plastics, no bubbles in the topper, fully working, fully shopped, throw in a color did and led OCD kit, ... then you're getting into that range.

I should hear back today on what the magic number is. I will go check it out and let you all know the results. Thanks again!

Planking can be a problem with White Waters and that would be one of the bigger issues (for a 6K machine). Look for any type of cracks or lines running vertically through the playfield. Supposedly the SP (as opposed to LS) playfields are less prone to planking.

Interesting. I will be on the look out for that. I haven't heard back as of yet on a price but I have a feeling he is going to be pretty high on it. He lists on his Facebook page that it is a "fully restored" White water which means try to get everything that was put into it out. I played the White water at my local arcade again last night and it has gotten worse. No Way Out doesn't register and for some reason you can not progress through the rafts. The playfield looks pretty good but I have not inspected with a comb. I am tempted on reaching out to the owners of the arcade to see if they would be willing to sell that one. I could get it on the cheap and then make it a project pin for me. We shall see.

anyone leaving the club let me know..Have a few pins I can trade.

I recently installed some new side art blades from PinGraffix. It's a good product, and I like the look. They were kind of difficult to install and, unfortunately, I have a wrinkle up by the eagle. Can't really see it if you're not looking for it.

I didn't have very good service with PinGraffix, though. It took three weeks for them to ship out, then they were shipped to the wrong person. Joe said he'd give me a partial refund for the trouble, but that never happened. It's too bad because I'd like to get another set for my Fish Tales, but I probably won't order from them anymore.

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Hi Allibaster
You’re right... we messed up here. And I did say that I would give you a partial refund and I thought I did. Please forgive us for we had such a rush on orders for Christmas.. a few orders did get messed up but we quickly fixed the issue once they were realized. We will and always take care of our customers. We have one of the best customer service in the business and we stand by our products. I sorry you caught us at a bad moment but you will not be disappointed should you choose to order from us again.
Best
-JR