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White Water
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Quoted from Fifty:I like how you have your bear mounted. Care to share on how you did this?
I did mine a little different.
Quoted from nsmith:Color is metallic blue metal flake
Quoted from waldo34:Your post suggest that you painted it. Powder coat? Looks really nice.
only the legs are powder coated, the rest I painted myself
I have thought about giving this a try in the past. Any idea how it will hold up? What brand / type of paint? Thanks, Waldo
Quoted from waldo34:I have thought about giving this a try in the past. Any idea how it will hold up? What brand / type of paint? Thanks, Waldo
here is the exact paint, when you start using it, make sure to wipe the nozzle every few sprays or it will clump
Dupli-Color MS400 Ocean Blue Metal Specks - 11 oz.
If you plunge too hard and the ball drains, you get it back if it didn't hit any switches.
The Fuse 110 issue is probably the light socket on the left side of the playfield under the mountain. Lift the playfield and look for a socket on the left edge directly above or below the support rail. The 44 bayonet socket is probably touching it as the hold is RIGHT ON the rail.
Quoted from judremy:If you plunge too hard and the ball drains, you get it back if it didn't hit any switches.
The Fuse 110 issue is probably the light socket on the left side of the playfield under the mountain. Lift the playfield and look for a socket on the left edge directly above or below the support rail. The 44 bayonet socket is probably touching it as the hold is RIGHT ON the rail.
That ball save is only on the newer rom.
Quoted from yzfguy:That ball save is only on the newer rom.
If you don't score any points you get the ball back, even if no ball save is on.
Quoted from thewool:One thing is not clear to me, is the ball supposed to go SDTM from a full plunge?
If it doesn't, what is the tweak to stop this? My machine seems levelled, etc.
Thanks.
Quoted from extraballingtmc:Anyone know where to get blue river targets that match the original?
I had one break, ordered one from pinball life but it turned out to be the wrong shade of blue despite being the right part.
Well this sucks. How off is the colour? I would guess the newer target would be a deeper shade of blue as it's newer and hasn't faded over time. I have one that is cracking and I'd hate to have to replace all of them to keep the colour consistent.
Guisborough
Quoted from Fifty:It shouldn't do this. Left flipper.
Well this sucks. How off is the colour? I would guess the newer target would be a deeper shade of blue as it's newer and hasn't faded over time. I have one that is cracking and I'd hate to have to replace all of them to keep the colour consistent.
Thanks that that.
Found the SDTM plunge fix... there is a metal guide that screws up against the left side of the Spine Chiller ramp. At the top where the ball comes round the bend there is a metal flap which is attached to the guide. If this flap isn't flush against the plastic ramp it aims the ball SDTM. Once it's flush it hits the left flipper, I used a bit of tape just to hold it for now until I buy some sticky pads.
play field is nearly repopulated, cabinet now has the door, rails, lockdown bar, and legs on. Inside cabinet first coat of paint. Never thought we would get this far.....She is looking good
Looks like you're on the home stretch. Are you leaving the lightning flippers on it? Do you have new LITE and LOCK green stand-up targets on order?
It's coming together very quickly. Looks great!
Quoted from Fifty:Looks like you're on the home stretch. Are you leaving the lightning flippers on it? Do you have new LITE and LOCK green stand-up targets on order?
It's coming together very quickly. Looks great!
yes I have the Lite and Lock stand-up targets just haven't replaced yet. I just put the lighting flippers in as the old ones were cracked and paint was peeling. I have to order another blue target as they have yellow target in place of one of them
Quoted from nsmith:yes I have the Lite and Lock stand-up targets just haven't replaced yet. I just put the lighting flippers in as the old ones were cracked and paint was peeling. I have to order another blue target as they have yellow target in place of one of them
When you order the blue targets you might want to order a full set. Someone earlier in this thread (like only back a few posts) replaced only one of the blue ones and the colour was off. I need to replace my HOT FOOT targets. Someone threw blue ones in there instead of the stock white. They put blue LEDs under the PF as well. I kind of like that though so I plan to leave it that way.
Are any of the old mountains salvageable? I need the one that covers up the R-I-V-E-R area.
Quoted from Fifty:When you order the blue targets you might want to order a full set. Someone earlier in this thread (like only back a few posts) replaced only one of the blue ones and the colour was off. I need to replace my HOT FOOT targets. Someone threw blue ones in there instead of the stock white. They put blue LEDs under the PF as well. I kind of like that though so I plan to leave it that way.
Are any of the old mountains salvageable? I need the one that covers up the R-I-V-E-R area.
Ill take some pics of them tomorrow and post.
I was at a friends house playing White Water and at one point Wet Willy called me a wiener!
I also recently just purchased a White Water and have played it tons since I got it but Willy has never called me "wiener" on my machine. Is this a special setting, rom set, sound file added or something? I'm running Rom H-6.
Breda
So this is just a rare occurrence and is on all machines with no setting needed? I love that they put something so wacky like this in the game.
Quoted from TheLaw:Yes with H-6 ROMs
My friend has the H-5 ROMS and it still said "Ya Wiener"
Quoted from Mokthemagicman:My friend has the H-5 ROMS and it still said "Ya Wiener"
I'm using L5 and I've heard it as well.
Sunshine
You might want to get a 'missing plastic' from Drano too seeing as your pin is already apart;
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/white-water-missing-plastic-coming-soon
Ottawa, ON
Quoted from Fifty:Are any of the old mountains salvageable? I need the one that covers up the R-I-V-E-R area.
I have all the old boulders, previous owner replaced mine with a new set. I'll check at home whether that one is in good shape & let you know.
Quoted from dr_nybble:I have all the old boulders, previous owner replaced mine with a new set. I'll check at home whether that one is in good shape & let you know.
Thank you very much. 
I saw a fully restored, clear coated one sell for $7k, and there was just a mint condition, looked HUO one for sale for $4900. Both sold. So $3500 is a decent price but probably not as pristine as some around the $5k range (new ramps, flawless playfield, color dmd, etc.)
tony c
Quoted from pinupgirl1975:Hey Lovers of WhiteWater!
We just made these over at PinGraffix!
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very nice
Damn, the screw holes are broken off the Lost Mine mountains. That's the one I'm hoping to replace. Thank you very much for taking the pictures, but I'm going to past on it. I'm sure someone here could use it though.
I'd love to become a member of the club! I'm looking for a project machine that I can take the time and put some work into bringing another game back from the brink.
Let me know what you have or if you know of any leads.
Thanks
GI lighting issue - problem solved
Thank you all very very much, you guys are the best.
Turns out I had the same issue as Thelaw & Elicash amazing 
It was a pinched wire from one of the GI sockets at the very back far right corner, where the mini playfield connects to the main playfield.
Quoted from TheLaw:Make sure to check all the wires! Check out this short I had just from a little screwing in
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/whitewater-club-lifejackets-not-required?tu=thelaw#post-2256757
Another tricky one is a bend piece of metal that can contact the side rails AFTER you lower the game...sneaky.
Quoted from Elicash:I had this same GI line short out. My issue was a pinched wire under one of the metal posts that support the upper playfield. Was a bitch to find, because it was out of sight in service position. Had to pull the entire PF out of cabinet to access it.
If you cant find the obvious short, make sure to look there!
EDIT: Just looked at TheLaw's link to his short - Sounds like he and I had the exact same issue! Must be somewhat common. Check there.
Quoted from Fifty:Damn, the screw holes are broken off the Lost Mine mountains. That's the one I'm hoping to replace. Thank you very much for taking the pictures, but I'm going to past on it. I'm sure someone here could use it though.
ok, sounds good
Quoted from pinupgirl1975:Hey Lovers of WhiteWater!
We just made these over at PinGraffix!
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image2_(resized).JPG
pinupgirl1975 These look really cool. I would love to see what it looks like on an actual machine. If you don't have a real one you can use mine to model it. Hee hee.
I came so freaking close to getting the Vacation Planner last night. I had completed everything, make class 6 river (twice) and completed Wet Willies Ranch and all the Whirlpool items. All I had left was locking the 3rd freaking ball. Both lock lights were hit and ready. I just had to shoot in to lock and I would have done it. I drained before I could make the shot. So close! Argh! Someday you will be mine Vacation Planner. Some day.....
Quoted from Fifty:Damn, the screw holes are broken off the Lost Mine mountains. That's the one I'm hoping to replace. Thank you very much for taking the pictures, but I'm going to past on it. I'm sure someone here could use it though.
Take a small plastic washer and glue it on top or bottom. Then take some paint or marker to blend in. This should work. Also, fill in the gap with the glue. Just take a small rolled up piece of paper and insert this in the washer hole and tape around the washer.
So how many other people have lightning flippers installed? I asked the guy when I bought it if these were standard and he said yes, but it was also set to 5 balls. I set it back to 3 balls and the game has always felt really hard to me, which is great, but I don't want to make it artificially so....
Quoted from Fifty:Damn, the screw holes are broken off the Lost Mine mountains. That's the one I'm hoping to replace. Thank you very much for taking the pictures, but I'm going to past on it. I'm sure someone here could use it though.
If you want to get a touch more in depth, you can do this which was easy and kind of fun
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/fix-broken-plastics-yourself
Quoted from thewool:I asked the guy when I bought it if these were standard and he said yes, but it was also set to 5 balls.
Ha...well that is interesting since you're over there. Possibly standard in Europe, but not 'Merica.
Quoted from thewool:So how many other people have lightning flippers installed? I asked the guy when I bought it if these were standard and he said yes, but it was also set to 5 balls. I set it back to 3 balls and the game has always felt really hard to me, which is great, but I don't want to make it artificially so....
I dig the lightning. Even got em on bk2k
Quoted from TheLaw:If you want to get a touch more in depth, you can do this which was easy and kind of fun
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/fix-broken-plastics-yourselfThat is how i fixed the plastic ramp under the playfield. Screw hole broke off so i superglued a washer to it and it is as good as new
Ha...well that is interesting since you're over there. Possibly standard in Europe, but not 'Merica.
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