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Since I have a whitewater and the sound is pretty good already, blows away my Lotr, I'd like to drop a contribution as well.
As for any kind of copyright infringement. There are ZERO damages to be awarded to anybody. Rock on 
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Quoted from Aurich:I'm picking up a White Water tomorrow, so now I'm sad this got put into limbo.
Thanks a lot Aurich, NOW you are sad, man that is pretty darn selfish of you, where was the outrage before!
I've got a nice long PM string with Rick.
Don't give it up Endprodukt, there is always a way
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Quoted from bstyles:I'd be willing to fund the fight. I'm not a lawyer but I understand IP law and have dealt with it extensively. I'm also well-funded.
Email or PM me.
Likewise, I am a lawyer and there is zero chance Rick is going to employ attorneys to prosecute some copyright infringement on such a narrow issue with MINIMAL damages to him!
Yes he has to bark loudly, that's all it is.
Man Whitewater really needs this. Thanks for doing it. 
I know what I and others paid Cleland and Millhouse for their work on TWD and it was awesome stuff! Simply as a donation. Good luck trying to come after those guys for IP infringement.
Rick has Pm'ed me re what I've said and I replied hoping that we could get something worked out. A WIN WIN.
Figure out what price Endprodukt needs for this great upgrade and carve out a % for PPS/WMS of overall sales.
This isn't a millionaire maker for crying out loud. Eric, the lawyer from WMS, thinks so little of this he didn't even bother to respond to Endprodukt.
I want the update! Let's go.
Quoted from Endprodukt:My understanding is that by Rick's words, Eric Schmalz is not the person to talk to, but Rick himself. That means Rick is the one who could say: ah fuck it, no money involved. Problem is I heard the same the other way around, meaning that Eric Schmalz is indeed the person to talk to and who could let it slip by simply tolerating it because of hobbyism... If that's a word.
That's what Rick told me as well.
He needs to say "fuck it", no $$$ involved. Nothing can be done by them anyhow.
Like Kerry said, take the BIG PICTURE approach and having this work out there would generate more interest in WH20 and more sales for PPS and such for other upgrades, parts, etc.
Connect the dots.
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