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White Water - Reorchestration for Pinsound and Warren Davis

By Endprodukt

8 years ago


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#851 2 years ago

The end of game music is a sequence of wavs Wet Willy 1, 1, 2, 3, 7 and 10.

One fix might be to build this tune into one single wav. Then Have this as 'Wet Willy 1' and delete all of the rest. It should work, I'll try it.

#852 2 years ago

I may be wrong, but if the game plays a series of wave files, its because the game rom tells the game to do so.

I have thouht about the whirlpool "error" in the first example. I have asked Nicholas at pinsound what difference it is between sfx and voice, they both plays over music and can be played over each other. He told me that there is hardware reservations in pinsound that allows the card to play 2 voice simulanously and 3 sfx, if I got i right. There might be a solution to move the sound thats seams to be interrupted to voice folder and se if it behaves differently.

Also, I have started reorchestrating Fish Tales. I'm happy if someone who like this folder-structure issues to help me with that project, as well with sfx and voices. Music is pretty much completed. Some jingles left and of course a bit of tweeking.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/fish-tales-pinsound-reorchestration-help-with-sfx-and-voices-needed

#853 2 years ago
Quoted from Sgrsgr:

I may be wrong, but if the game plays a series of wave files, its because the game rom tells the game to do so.
I have thouht about the whirlpool "error" in the first example. I have asked Nicholas at pinsound what difference it is between sfx and voice, they both plays over music and can be played over each other. He told me that there is hardware reservations in pinsound that allows the card to play 2 voice simulanously and 3 sfx, if I got i right. There might be a solution to move the sound thats seams to be interrupted to voice folder and se if it behaves differently.
Also, I have started reorchestrating Fish Tales. I'm happy if someone who like this folder-structure issues to help me with that project, as well with sfx and voices. Music is pretty much completed. Some jingles left and of course a bit of tweeking.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/fish-tales-pinsound-reorchestration-help-with-sfx-and-voices-needed

I agree that's what it seems, that the rom is calling these tunes in sequence. If so, it's doing an amazing job as they appear as one piece of music!

Pinsound on the other hand is calling them individually which is why it's not as smooth. I'm going to try my idea tonight. It should work ok so long as wavs 2, 3, 7 and 10 are not used anywhere else in the game - as they won't exist.

#854 2 years ago

Out of curiosity, if you play WH2O with pinsound legacy mix, does it sound right? Does it have similar timing or other problems?
I often wonder how many of the issues are related to the mix and related to pinsound.

#855 2 years ago

No, the high score is at least still the same.

Quoted from Reznnate:

Out of curiosity, if you play WH2O with pinsound legacy mix, does it sound right? Does it have similar timing or other problems?
I often wonder how many of the issues are related to the mix and related to pinsound.

#856 2 years ago

I think most legacy sound packages have serious issues with the folder structure. Some sfx is sometimes jingles, some jingles are singles. So the short answer isbthat it wont play as the original anyways. For this mix ive got Olivers folder structure. What a relief.

I have read about that you can play the game and record the games sound requests and view them in pinsound studio so that you can simulate the mix without have access to the game. This was called the .psrec-file. But it seams that this functionality is not available anymore.

I have asked them at pinsound about this, but have not got an answer yet.

#857 2 years ago

Oh man, i put in an 8" sub and wired the stereo.. I've been missing out! Does anyone have a pair they recommend for the backbox? I've done a few different, not sure I'm sold on anything particular.

#858 2 years ago

I put in a pair of 5.25" pyle 3 way speakers. I think they sound great.

amazon.com link »

#859 2 years ago

Is pinsound worth it on this title now i have it on BSD and love it. Just expensive here in Australia about $800 delivered so is it worth that kind of money?

#860 2 years ago

I really love what Endprodukt and Sgrsgr did. My machine sounds amazing. One huge upgrade is the whistle from the VUK. Sounds so much better.

#861 2 years ago

double post

#862 2 years ago

I'm getting a new bug to do with bigfoot. After he shuts the door on some modes it plays his fx and then I get a weird noise for 30 seconds or so. Happens fairly frequently.

2 months later
#863 2 years ago
Quoted from thewool:

Thanks mate!
I've been emailing Nicolas from Pinsound, he's amazingly responsive At the moment I believe it could be a firmware issue as my board is an old v1.3 Pinsound 1.

Did you ever get this sorted mate? I have the same problem.... LH6C. Older Pinsound 1.3 board, latest firmware (20062). However i have a new Pinled CPu (So trying to work through the permutations of where the problem could be!)

I'm getting the sounds out from the pinside (Boot noise), however i am getting no actual Game sounds out at all!

Cheers!

4 months later
#864 1 year ago

How is it going with this one?

4 months later
#865 1 year ago

My white water said to me : Give me a new sound , please ! and i answer: don't keep your eyes open, I will sell you...

1 year later
#866 37 days ago

Hello to you all! I followed this tread for years and even contributed a bit to get all the work done in the beginning. I know development stopped some time ago but I was tuning in again because I bought another WH2O and would love to upgrade.

Maybe I can contribute again to pick it up?
Hope you are fine Endproduct
Best from NL
Peter

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