I inquired with CPR about the dimples as well and got a response saying that the drill bit must have broke and it wasn’t caught. Then I was told what to try to drill the holes out. I really wasn’t expecting much or really looking for anything but seeing “Sorry this happened” would have been nice. In fact, the email started off with this....

This is the third email of it's kind, in the last month. Same situation. Same discovery. We made and shipped 300+ playfields, and prior to that it's been dead quiet.

No “Hello” or anything, that’s how it started. I’m just glad I don’t do these things regularly.

Spoilers; CPR can be dicks.

No they didn’t. They said if there was a silver available they’d have offered an exchange (I’ve already installed all the underside components so I wouldn’t do it anyway) otherwise all they have left are bronze which are the worst of the run and they know I wouldn’t want one of those. I thought maybe I’d get something back but couldn’t even get an apology.

I just sent back a message that said thanks for the info just thought I’d ask. I guess I should have responded differently but I didn’t want to get another message back I wouldn’t be happy with.

Great job dealing with the punches as they come. You're more patient than I would have been! I'm putting off doing my swap now with all the little issues. Smart of you to take a break and take your time. The results will be so worthwhile when you're done, dialed it in, and have put a few dozen games on it.

Sometimes the universe is looking out for you.

Interestingly enough, I was looking thru my tear down pix and my guides appear to be a different length than yours. I haven't gotten back to working on mine lately, so I have not fitted them yet.

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Damn, then it looks like I will run into the same issue. But on a positive note, it looks like grinding them down did the trick and it still looks good.

I just finishised mine,it is a gold and not drilled or dimpled. There who a few very faint dimple marks on bottom but the few I could see were off. Problems I encountered were;paint chipping,also had to trim end of two metal raceways to get them to fit,had two screws break off because I didn't drill holes deep enough.Recomendend by Kruzman ,get diamond drummel bit to cut paint back from drilled holes or you will get chipping of paint and lifting of clear. I would also not drill all the holes for ramp lift mechanisms until everything is assembeld and checked for binding

Great job! Following this

Do you not have a rotisserie? You can leave the pf on that and connect the harnesses to the cab. Makes testing & troubleshooting a breeze.

If you don't have a rotisserie, I can assure you that building one would be the cheapest, quickest, and easiest thing you could do in this thread. I designed one that cost just $50 and is sturdy and collapsible for storage, it even got a Vid endorsement in his own thread: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/my-awesome-50-diy-rotisserie-or-rotezel

It’s definitely worthwhile to test the lamps and switches as a subsystem once you have them in. I found a bunch of issues when I did this, and it’s easier to fix them before you repopulate everything else.

Not to hijack the OP's thread, but since I griped about it here and believe in giving credit where due, I figured I should update that I did contact CPR about my concerns with this pf release and the defects on mine, and Kevin sent a very thorough reply addressing the issues and volunteered an offer I found to be quite fair. So good on CPR for working with their customers! As far as the shooter lane goes, he said the shortened version was a deliberate choice so as to not interfere with the paint in the lane. Which I guess I can understand, but I suggested they should have been up front about that... after all, folks have nitpicked far more idiosyncratic details on pfs (see TAF colors, etc)

Are there any ideas for helping out the shooter lane? I did notice that no shot is consistant and I’d assume it’s because of this.

I can say that I had a similar experience. Kevin was very professional and thorough with his response to my queries about the dimples etc.

Hey Nerdygrrl,

I started my swap today and thought I would share a few pics. Even on the factory field the holes for the guide and the post are way too close together. When I went to remove my post and guide it started tearing up the hole, delaminating the playfield:

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You can also see how the ball guide is pushing the post to the side. I think your fix of grinding down the end of the guide is perfectly acceptable. Also, comparing the holes between the CPR field and the original, the CPR field has the holes spaced ever so slightly farther apart believe it or not:

Original:

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CPR:

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I re-drilled my holes with a 3/16" bit to remove some of the clear that had fallen into the hole and the guides go in very smoothly without tearing the edge of the holes up, with the exception of this one hole:

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they would of heard from me everyday all day, till i got a refund or a new playfield!!! No excuse for this kind of customer service.

So how is the swap coming?

I am still working on mine Hoping for some inspiration.

I definitely understand. This has been the hardest swap I have done so far. The playfield was missing 50 holes on the topside that had to be drilled and although there were a few dimples present underneath, none of them were correct. It was a challenge but I can say this new field is so much nicer than my old field. I just finished mine this weekend.

So here is some inspiration for you

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Beautiful job. You should be proud.

Gorgeous! Beautiful work.

You’ve put a lot of work into this and if you’re going to invest that much time and energy, you should be totally satisfied with the output and outcome. If I were you, I would do the same FWIW.

Marc

I'd put my money on Mirco over CPR any day. There have just been too many f ups from CPR and I rarely hear of anything major wrong with Mirco stuff. I'd be tempted to do the same thing with my CPR and get a Mirco also. Especially since he cranks crap out left and right and CPR takes half a decade to get some stuff done. Im afraid to start my swap now. I am curious to know how first run people have faired with their playfields.

My playfield looks really amazing to be honest, but what scares me is the fit between playfields and the clearcoat cracking. After seeing that pic of the person who swapped and had that round middle target get hammered and clear chipped I cringed. I also love that Mirco actually drills out the pop nail areas and cleans the playfields up so they are truly ready to go. His clear is done by robot also so you are going to get consistency across the board. Ive been waiting for a Sorcerer playfield and CPR has had it on the list for years. Mirco may run them after summer. I can keep my fingers crossed.

I sent him a message the other day as I have a WW I’m considering swapping as well. Never done it before and I am very much a noob so I may change my mind out of fear haha. Anyways he said he thinks they will be available in October for $999 shipped.