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Whirlwind Club... Members Only!


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#2451 26 days ago

Hate to do it, but I have to leave the club. I just put my very nice WW on the marketplace for $2850 OBO. I’m located in Southern California

#2452 26 days ago
Quoted from ccbiggsoo7:

how do you replace rivets? what kind of press?

To do it correctly, you need the "tubular rivets". I purchased a bunch from Hanson Rivet about a year ago:
https://www.hansonrivet.com/rivets/tubular-rivets/

5/32: TBC0805N or MS20450-C8-B5N
3/16: TBC0806N or MS20450-C8-B6N
7/32: TBC0807N or MS20450-C8-B7N
1/4: TBC0808N or MS20450-C8-B8N
9/32: TBC0809N or MS20450-C8-B9N
.133 X .312 X .032 washers: WS-0810

Those are the same chome/nickle plated brass rivets originally found in our pins. I had to call Hanson Rivet directly and give them the part numbers to place my order, wasn't able to do it over the web site. I ordered like 100 each item. I also got a tool, "HT-174" rivet clincher:

http://www.erivet.com/product_detail.cfm?itemNbr=HT-174

But I've never used that tool... a friend of mine has a manual press tool that provides great control and also makes doing the rivets a 1 person job.

Doing the actual riveting itself is simple... drill out the old rivets. Get your parts stacked up and fit in your replacement rivet... you want it to just poke through, or at least I went with the shortest rivet that was longer than the stacked material. Blue tape on the head of the rivet to hold in place and protect it, so tube side of the rivet was up, put in the press and mash it down.

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#2453 24 days ago

Cant find switch 5647-12073-08 Ball through #3 (right) any leads?

#2454 24 days ago
Quoted from jkashani:

Cant find switch 5647-12073-08 Ball through #3 (right) any leads?

Is it just a regular microswitch? If so, get anything and pop the tab off the old one and put it on the new one.

#2455 18 days ago

Update on the switch issue. I lifted the playfield to change the switches and the first switch was getting stuck. I bent it back and it seems to have fixed the problem.

#2457 13 days ago

Over a thousand plays since I finished freshening this thing back up, everything is still running smooth. Loved this game since I was a kid. My boy loves it too.

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#2458 6 days ago

I put LED flashers in tonight. When I hit the left flipper, the lowest left flasher “ghosts” everytime. I have all of the OCD boards en route. Will this fix that issue, or do I have something that I need to investigate further?

#2460 5 days ago

What LED bulbs work best for the flashers in the backbox?

#2461 5 days ago
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

What LED bulbs work best for the flashers in the backbox?

I've been sticking with kits from Coin Taker. If you go to replace the control lamps, get the non ghosting type.

#2462 5 days ago

98 skyway tolls on ball 3 and I drain Never been that close to the end...

#2463 5 days ago
Quoted from pencilneck:

I've been sticking with kits from Coin Taker. If you go to replace the control lamps, get the non ghosting type.

Cointaker makes some great kits! This go around, I used the list someone posted in this thead (pretty sure) and ordered from Comet.

Just trying to figure out what the bulbs are for the flashers in backbox as they are smaller round bulbs that I haven’t experienced before.

#2464 5 days ago
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

Cointaker makes some great kits! This go around, I used the list someone posted in this thead (pretty sure) and ordered from Comet.
Just trying to figure out what the bulbs are for the flashers in backbox as they are smaller round bulbs that I haven’t experienced before.

Are you talking about the 545 blinking bulbs?

#2465 5 days ago
Quoted from gutz:

98 skyway tolls on ball 3 and I drain Never been that close to the end...

Keep trying! The sound is neat. But not as cool as the three way combo..

I did the same thing on my buddies earth shaker 98 miles and a ball 3 drain

#2466 5 days ago
Quoted from zene10:

Are you talking about the 545 blinking bulbs?

Yes. the ball shaped ones that blink. 6 of them.

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#2467 5 days ago

Where is best place to get plastic protectors? I bought the pinbits set, but the sling plastics are huge and stick way out from the plastic. Don’t like the way they look.

#2468 5 days ago

To cliffy or not? I have the full set of cliffy’s and the two cellar holes are very minimally worn (HUO game). Will the cliffys cause more damage than prevent? In other games, the cliffys make the shots harder to hit. What about on Whirlwind? Any playing difference?

#2469 5 days ago

Got a Whirlwind recently.

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#2470 5 days ago
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

Where is best place to get plastic protectors? I bought the pinbits set, but the sling plastics are huge and stick way out from the plastic. Don’t like the way they look.

I bought the set from playfield protectors in germany and they are exactly the same size as the cpr plastics

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#2471 4 days ago
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

To cliffy or not? I have the full set of cliffy’s and the two cellar holes are very minimally worn (HUO game). Will the cliffys cause more damage than prevent? In other games, the cliffys make the shots harder to hit. What about on Whirlwind? Any playing difference?

I would leave them off unless the wear gets really bad personally. With that said, I had them on mine which was similar as you and although they lifted slightly, they didn't affect the ball travel (at least I never noticed a difference).

#2472 4 days ago
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

To cliffy or not? I have the full set of cliffy’s and the two cellar holes are very minimally worn (HUO game). Will the cliffys cause more damage than prevent? In other games, the cliffys make the shots harder to hit. What about on Whirlwind? Any playing difference?

Zero difference in gameplay for mine. I thought since there was that small raise in height it would make a difference, but no.
I needed cliffys on mine since it was a CPR replacement and the clear has chipped away at the cellar entrance. I had pics posted a ways back.

#2473 4 days ago

Ok...OCD boards for the inserts and GI. I’ve heard that the only way to replicate the fade of incandescent bulbs when changing over to LEDs is by installing the OCD boards. Now I have one of my best techs telling me not to install them...that it’s just one more thing that could cause game issues. What are pros and cons when it comes to Whirlwind?

#2474 4 days ago
Quoted from Blitzburgh99:

Ok...OCD boards for the inserts and GI. I’ve heard that the only way to replicate the fade of incandescent bulbs when changing over to LEDs is by installing the OCD boards. Now I have one of my best techs telling me not to install them...that it’s just one more thing that could cause game issues. What are pros and cons when it comes to Whirlwind?

IMO LedOcd is only needed in games that had the bulbs "fade" as a feature. Games like Hook. Not needed in Whirlwind as far as I can tell. Just use Non-Ghosting in the inserts and they look great.

#2475 4 days ago
Quoted from hailrazer:

IMO LedOcd is only needed in games that had the bulbs "fade" as a feature. Games like Hook. Not needed in Whirlwind as far as I can tell. Just use Non-Ghosting in the inserts and they look great.

I think just the fact that the LEDs instantly turn on and off is what he is talking about. Incandescents have that quick but gradual fade, that I kind of miss

#2476 4 days ago

The inserts OCD looks to be plug and play. The GI one requires a number of modifications. I’m not sure I want to start hacking on my game if the effects aren’t worth it.

#2477 3 days ago

Shop out eye candy!

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#2478 3 days ago

Hoping to get back to my Whirlwind. Does anyone have a repro topper that they would want to part with?

#2479 3 days ago
Quoted from orangegsx:

Keep trying! The sound is neat. But not as cool as the three way combo..
I did the same thing on my buddies earth shaker 98 miles and a ball 3 drain

I've been to the end of the road on ES several times, but never even close on WW (besides this time). Not sure why, the main ramp shot is almost identical!

#2480 3 days ago
Quoted from gutz:

I've been to the end of the road on ES several times, but never even close on WW (besides this time). Not sure why, the main ramp shot is almost identical!

Does your left flipper have ball hop? Both the original playfield and my replacement playfield, the positioning of the left flipper creates a gap on from the return lane and thus ball hop. Shots off the left flipper are hard to be consistent with.

#2481 3 days ago

Haven't spent much time on this yet. The top row of the display is out. Bottom works fine.

Anyone else seen this?

#2482 3 days ago
Quoted from pencilneck:

Does your left flipper have ball hop? Both the original playfield and my replacement playfield, the positioning of the left flipper creates a gap on from the return lane and thus ball hop. Shots off the left flipper are hard to be consistent with.

I have a small amount on the left flipper. Tried everything to get rid of it.

#2483 3 days ago

I think Cliffy has some repro lane guides that helps reduce or eliminate ball hop here:
http://passionforpinball.com/FlipFrames.htm

Moving the flipper assembly a little may help as well.

#2484 3 days ago
Quoted from John_In_WI:

Haven't spent much time on this yet. The top row of the display is out. Bottom works fine.
Anyone else seen this?

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/williams-system-11-score-diplay-issue-

My Earthshaker had a display issue, wasn't the ribbon cable. Resoldered the headers and that fixed my issue.

#2485 3 days ago

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#2486 3 days ago
Quoted from pencilneck:

Does your left flipper have ball hop? Both the original playfield and my replacement playfield, the positioning of the left flipper creates a gap on from the return lane and thus ball hop. Shots off the left flipper are hard to be consistent with.

Absolutely I have left lane ball hop, frustrating!

I have put a toothpick inside the screw hole in PF to wedge the screw over a bit to eliminate, it works fantastic for a while, then slowly migrated back to original position. Hard to get into ramp rhythm when the ball hop is there.

#2487 2 days ago

That looks like a ribbon cable issue

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