Which pins have a kickback? Is there a list? Which is your favorite and why?
That list doesn't look complete. Jurassic Park isn't listed, for example.
The only two pins that I have significant experience with are Jurassic Park and F-14 Tomcat. I'm not sure about other games that have them, but F-14 gives you "Flight Insurance" for when the kickback sends it right down the drain. And Jurassic Park does the same, in what I call "Raptor Insurance".
Quoted from mskoenen:That list doesn't look complete. Jurassic Park isn't listed, for example.
It says "too many matches" so that means there are way more than that.
You could select "Bally" and then "kickback" to further expand the search.
Quoted from vid1900:It says "too many matches" so that means there are way more than that.
You could select "Bally" and then "kickback" to further expand the search.
That's not what that "too many matches" message means. If you do a search that yields a small or medium results list (e.g., http://www.ipdb.org/search.pl?any=slugger&sortby=name&search=Search+Database&searchtype=quick), all of the individual game pages from the search results are displayed on the search results page -- as opposed to just a list of the games with links.
All of the search results that IPDB is aware of based on entered data are on the page you linked. Unfortunately, the data is far from complete. Off the top of my head, Corvette is another one not on the list. I'm sure there are lots more.
"Too many matches to display all individual records." - I always thought that meant that there were too many matches to display, lol.
Quoted from stevevt:All of the search results that IPDB is aware of based on entered data are on the page you linked. Unfortunately, the data is far from complete. Off the top of my head, Corvette is another one not on the list. I'm sure there are lots more.
Looks like we have to all chip in an make sure we have updated IPDB - [ Submit Changes ] box in the upper left.
(although I have uploaded many manuals and rubber guides that they have never bothered to publish......)
What are we defining as a kickback? Are you talking about the machine relaunching the ball if you lose it quickly (like JP does after a lost ball from a raptor shot,) or the literal "ball launcher turned into a toy on the playfield" like the JP raptor kick or LAH ripper, or the left outlane ball save where it shoots the ball back into play when lit, like on NGG, Stargate, Frankenstein, etc?
Left outlane ball save, kicking it back into the playfield like in Super Mario Bros. and Big Guns my favorites.
That list @ The IPMD is listing any pin with a kickback in it's listing. I have a surf 'n safari which has kickback targets, but not a left outlane kickback save into the playfield. So I tried outlane kickback and it still doesn't list my Super Mario Bros.???????
Quoted from blondetall:not sure about the database, but some of the ones listed above are wrong with what you're defining the kickback as. JP doesn't have an outlane kickback.
Yeah, I thought he was referring to those things that launch the ball back at you. Like the General Yagov shot in F-14 or the Raptor shot in JP.
Hot Doggin'
Played one in a tourney with the lower right post removed. Without the kickback lit, say goodnight, Gracie.
Quoted from labnip:Defender
(manual skill shot on left out-lane)
Defender has the most satisfying kickback I have ever seen. It being a manual kickback that you have to actually time yourself is great when you pull it off. It's even better if you get a fast ball going into the drain area that goes over to the left far enough and you kick it back into play. WOOT!!!
Love the strategy element on kickback - once you've used it, youhave to decide if should you risk trying to get it back, or forget about it and move on.
I really like the kickback on strange science. It's a manual system that you have to light and then trigger with a button to kick the ball from the outlane back into the inline. Makes it a lot more exciting then just having a free save given to you.
Quoted from DugFreez:Defender has the most satisfying kickback I have ever seen. It being a manual kickback that you have to actually time yourself is great when you pull it off. It's even better if you get a fast ball going into the drain area that goes over to the left far enough and you kick it back into play. WOOT!!!
I've never played this game but that is cool. All of them should be manual like that. It's more interactive and adds an element of skill.
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