Centaur has great artwork, but got really old fast for me. What are the prices? Can you only get one? Centaur can be a pricey pin to buy unlike Paragon and Firepower 2. You could probably get both of the other two for the price of Centaur. From the pictures it looks like the paragon is in pretty nice shape. Centaur looks like it has parts missing too. Paragon looks like the best option to me.
Quoted from Cornelius:ooh boy is it beat up though
Yeah and there's white junk all over it, wonder what it could be...
Quoted from Squeakman:Centaur looks like it has parts missing to
Only the left bat right?
Restored a far worse centaur. Go for it there's nothing like doing the work yourself and having something to be proud of that also plays well and it's a great game.
Lots of options for all three....
Borrow a truck or van.
Borrow a trailer.
Put 2 on the roof.
Leave the trunk open and bring lots of duct tape.
Never settle.
Quoted from Shoot_Again:All missing headers??
Pass
OOPS i MISSED THAT THE HEADS ARE MISSING. YEAH PASS DUDE. oops caps sorry. unless you need them for parts, run! this one was missing stuff too and it was a huge project but the head was there.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/i-turned-this-into-this
Centaur!!! And get your ass to Bay Area Amusements and get the back glass! Building a new back cabinet is pretty easy if you are at all good with wood...if not a cabinet shop.
Quoted from ledge:what did u pay for these?
Haven't bought them yet, they go for 100,- each, so not much (if it's nothing i can always sell the parts), but it's a long 2 hour drive...Paragon looks best, but i like the Black and white graphics very much of the Centaur. Maybe niuce to learn my painting skjills on.
i would. you can get bally heads pretty easy. stencil kit, new boards, displays, backbox wiring (Jim Shird makes this) a lot of this you can put into a working game even if it's complete.
lets say,hypothetically, that you can buy a complete centaur..for 1500. and 2 of the displays are bad, the glass is flaked and scratched, MPU is corroded, say it again board doesn't work.
the hardest thing to get will be the sound board? say it again is available, you know you wanted to do LED displays and a new glass anyway, might as well throw in an alltek MPU and Driver.
so you would be way ahead of the game.
-c
Paragon. Best shape, probably the easiest to restore. My favorite player of the three.
Centaur is the value choice if resell price is eventually your main concern.
Assuming that isn't mold all over the Centaur, I would find a way to take both Paragon and Centaur home. "Necessity" is the mother of invention.
Quoted from Evets:Assuming that isn't mold all over the Centaur
So if it IS mold..it's almost beyond repair, right?
Assuming the rest (lights, power, fuses etc) does works on such a playfield only...what will happen when i power it up?
Quoted from Star_Gazer:So if it IS mold..it's almost beyond repair, right?
Mold can be cleaned--most of the time. Just wear a mask. After cleaning and if it's on bare wood, sand the surface a little bit to get rid of the discoloration.
Water damage isn't really that repairable unless you want to rebuild the cabinet.
Quoted from Star_Gazer:Haven't bought them yet, they go for 100,- each, so not much (if it's nothing i can always sell the parts), but it's a long 2 hour drive...Paragon looks best, but i like the Black and white graphics very much of the Centaur. Maybe niuce to learn my painting skjills on.
trust me when i tell you, DO NOT TRY TO GAIN CONFIDENCE AND SKILL RETOUCHING A CENTAUR PF.
For that I would use that firepower
Quoted from Star_Gazer:Assuming the rest (lights, power, fuses etc) does works on such a playfield only...what will happen when i power it up?
if you have no head? nothing.
Quoted from rcbrown316:DO NOT TRY TO GAIN CONFIDENCE
It looks just black and white to me
Quoted from rcbrown316:trust me when i tell you, DO NOT TRY TO GAIN CONFIDENCE AND SKILL RETOUCHING A CENTAUR PF.
Hahaha, agreed. I probably spent 40 hrs or more painting the one I had, and it was in good shape to start.
Quoted from Star_Gazer:It looks just black and white to me
But it's very intricate with lots of fine lines everywhere. It might be better to do decals because of that.
Either way, you've got a lot of work.
Easiest method to a working centaur from that game in the pic that is actually feasible:
Buy the Centaur, find a Mr & Mrs Pac-man project, use the boards, cab & displays from the Mr & Mrs Pac. Paint and stencil the Pac cab with Centaur stencils.
Make a poster translite of Centaur II's translite (since mr & mrs pac uses a florescent bulb). Cen II BG would be hard to find.
Get a CPR Centaur PF.
Get a repro SIA board for delay.
Clean all the parts, use that centaur PF as a donor for assemblies and whatnot only.
Sell that Centaur PF to someone for wall art or something.
It would be a little cheesy, but you could technically get a working Centaur II look-alike out of it for less than $1000 and a ton of work, if you can score a Mr. & Mrs Pac for less then $500, which you generally can. This was my thought process when I saw this game, having restored a Centaur II & shopped a Mr & Mrs Pac-Man.
If it turns out the PF on the Centaur isn't toast, you could try to touch-up and clear it, but it is still yellowed.
With the Mr & Mrs. Pac idea, you could part out the pac PF too and recoup a little. If you made your own head and bought boards individually, you'd be in deeper than a Mr & Mrs Pac for sure. Depends on how much time and $$$ and your level of commitment.
Quoted from Star_Gazer:It looks just black and white to me
oh yeah I forgot. black & white. do us a favor and start recording it after you have about 8 hours in. if you could use two cameras that would be preferred. one on your hand with the brush and the other on your face
Star Gazer, check this thread out: https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/centaur-playfield-clear-coat-mylar-removal-yes-or-no
Quoted from thedefog:Either way, you've got a lot of work.
Easiest method to a working centaur from that game in the pic that is actually feasible:
Buy the Centaur, find a Mr & Mrs Pac-man project, use the board, cab & displays from the Mr & Mrs Pac. Paint and stencil the Pac cab with Centaur stencils.
Make a poster translite of Centaur II's translite (since mr & mrs pac uses a florescent bulb).
Get a CPR Centaur PF.
Get a repro SIA board for delay.
Clean all the parts, use that centaur PF as a donor for assemblies and whatnot only.
It would be a little cheesy, but you could technically get a working Centaur II look-alike out of it for less than $1000 and a ton of work, if you can score a Mr. & Mrs Pac for less then $500, which you generally can. This was my thought process when I saw this game, having restored a Centaur II & shopped a Mr & Mrs Pac-Man.
1000 bucks. if you know where I can find a cpr centaur pf for 400 hit me up man. I'm all over it!
Quoted from rcbrown316:1000 bucks. if you know where I can find a cpr centaur pf for 400 hit me up man. I'm all over it!
Okay, that was a poor rough estimate. Wasn't really thinking. Yeah, the best you'll probably do on a CPR Centaur right now would be like $800+, depending on grade. My main point in that post was use a Mr & Mrs Pac as the core for a Centaur, there are tons of them.
Quoted from thedefog:Star Gazer, check this thread
That's some impressive work you did there!
Quoted from Star_Gazer:That's some impressive work you did there!
Ehh, it was decent for my 3rd job. I'm getting better as I do more. Thanks though.
I don't make a whole lotta $$$, so I'm a poor man restore guy. I do the best with what I can afford, and try to re-use as much as possible. If I had it my way, I have all the right tools and the space, and I'd probably go all out and plate everything and replace most parts instead of spending countless hours cleaning. I need to hit the lottery. I'd do this and music full-time.
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