My first reaction to Munsters was that it sounded interesting and that I would probably like it, but once I saw the pin and the streams I realized that I hadn't seen an episode of Munsters in about 30 years... and while I liked Munsters then and enjoyed it then, it doesn't translate to the same experience watching it now.

The things that they integrated that are very much a part of the show are now a big part of the experience of playing the pin (Herman interactions, canned laughing, etc.) and it just seems a little outdated and uninteresting to me now... even though I like pinball and feel like I should like it the theme doesn't click like I thought it would.

For now I'm out. I kind of feel like Stern is just throwing themes at a wall and seeing what sticks and not caring what the masses really want (Beatles, WWF, old Batman, Deadpool w/o the movie theme, and now Munsters) and trying to make theme's cool again by themselves, but that's just my opinion.

That being said, to me excellent gameplay, flow, and killer code can overcome theme in many cases.

... likely not gonna happen for a while if at all. I'd bet a huo used pro will still sell for 5000-5400 .... that's been my experience with newer lcd pros at least. Now the premiums and le seem to take a much bigger hit in most cases. No way 30 percent tho .

You will have to refresh that want ad a lot before something becomes available! Patience my grasshopper....

Hey Eric, I'm curious...what do the masses really want

From my perspective, licensing is one Stern's strong points. They seem to have a healthy mix of retro (Batman, Beatles, Munsters) and modern licenses (GOT, StarWars, StarTrek). Pretty cool they did IMDN, not the most mainstream band...Zeppelin and Pink Floyd are much more "mainstream retro" bands.

I'm really pondering buying one for route. Theme is everything for location games. I'm really struggling with this one as SW and DP were no brainers. I'm just not sure if people give AF about Munsters. I know I don't really have any emotional connection to it. What say ye?

Not one of those are scary in the least. You may have too many bad humor terrible call out type pins but scary? nope

That's what they said about TAF...eventually you paid more.

Only after production stops. Munsters will be in production for 3 years at least, and there will be people who sell them within that timeline. As long as a game available new, you can’t flip a used one for more.

Agreed...but, I was actually talking about the LE. I don't buy a machine to "flip". TAF gold "held" it's price right away, and "eventually" (like I said) brought more.

I already ordered a pro. I liked the steam and the theme. It will be a great addition. Every pin has negate marks but this pin has a lot to offer.

Good question, I guess I view all of the titles from the 60's being the biggest disconnect to me.. Beatles, Batman66, and now Munsters were all in their prime in the 60's and possibly early 70's. While I appreciate retro to some extent, I don't like Beatles music that much (I'll listen to them if they are on, but not something I would pick to play), and I'm not nostalgic enough to want to watch an old episode of Batman or Munsters... those were shows I watched in syndication when I was in middle school and haven't really watched since. I liked them then, but seeing the old Munsters clips doesn't make me hate it.. I just don't feel a connection anymore.

With these old themes I feel like I'm forcing myself to like them because they are tied into a hobby I really like (Pinball). But like I said, good layouts and code really is the biggest thing in the end. To that extent, I wait titles out like Munsters and try and pick up a used when when I know if the code is up to snuff or not.

They target the customers who are buying most of these games and that happens to be people that grew up in the days that those shows were popular. Most people love the nostalgia and do enjoy revisiting it, i know that i do. I love BM66 and The Munsters., old rock bands etc. Stern still throws some newer themes in there for the younger people also like TWD and GOT, GOTG etc. I think Stern mixes it up pretty good.

Looks Great loved the show and the characters ! Fred Gwynne rules ! ordered premium and LE

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The light show at the start of the Raven multi-ball at 1 hr 48 min is pretty cool looking.......

https://www.twitch.tv/deadflip

technically 1:48:18

I’m in on a Pro. Beautiful game and a dream theme for me. Can’t wait for it to arrive!

Is that Butch Patrick?

Would love to play a Pro and Premium side by side before making a decision. Absolutely love the B&W Prem - it’s so unique and in keeping with the tv show. If I were to make a decision sight/play unseen, I’d go for the Premium without a doubt.

Timing was right, firing on all cylinders.

I’m glad Munsters got made with this new tech, LCD and full license assets.
Fantastic timing and will be an instant pinball classic. Laugh track, Paul Lynde sound alike and humor and the whole sound package is great. Not to mention that sexy art by Franchi. Just a beautiful game.

Imagine Munsters as a solid state or DMD game versus the current offering.... no thanks !

In on an LE.
Counting down the days.....

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Its the best i could come up with at the time.

Heard on Kaneda's latest podcast episode that Stern is increasing LE production quantity by 100 to 600 games total.

I do like the black and white quite a bit but the ol wallet is empty from a bit of a wpc spree.

Nothing like devaluing the LE right off the bat. I don’t really consider 500 “limited”, let alone 600. With Batman LEs were truly limited with 240 LEs and 80 SLEs with each having a unique graphic/identifier.

I have the cash and permission for any model and now Im struggling with my being a tight ass.do I get the pro which is usually my preference or the premium which in my opinion is the first premium in a while that's actually worth the price increase or say fuck it and by the LE because it looks way better than the premium artwork to me.then there's the if I'm buying a pro then just wait about 3 days after shipping for someone to play 17 games and be bored and buy a used one with no tax because we know it will happen.

That’s my story.
Each model looks great but not enough to go new.

For me, it depends on what you value the most. I like the artwork on the pro, but it doesnt have the mini playfield. The b&w on the premium is my least favorite look, but it does have the playfield. The LE is a whopping 9k, but i dont feel it offers enough extras to be worth that.
I think it would boil down to whether cab art or the mini playfield is more important.

On the pinball raffles, the buyers spoke with their dollars and finished off the premium well before the pro...which is really saying something since the cost if a ticket is 150% more.

I could live without the basementime as I've never played a mini pf that I thought didn't take a little away from the game but the wife likes them and really likes this one.I think I could live with the basement but the color looks way better to me so if I step up I'm stepping way up.then I remember I'm a tight as lol and could get a new pro and a used pro.

I believe it is.

50% more or 150% of the cost of the pro raffle ticket, rather than 150% more

that's exactly what I would do, why pay nib price when you can pick up some flakes game with 100 plays on it.

I would get a premium if I got one, but I'm not in a hurry to get it.

I'll wait and play it and see where the code is in 6 months maybe.

I'm really more interested in seeing what Brian Eddy's game is or the new Elvira game.

Changed to skipping it now if true

This is exactly where I'm at right now, word for word.

I like the theme, love the B&W version of the artwork. Layout isn’t exciting to me; looks like every other Borg game except for the lower PF. I’ll play it on route but that’s about it.

Consider the source

Yep - he addresses this like it's a done deal, but Kaneda has been wrong on his info in the past. He has also been right on breaking news numerous times as well. Either way - I was just letting folks know FWIW and they can listen for themselves.

Whats the street prices for pro/prem?

I had posted in another Munsters thread that my local distributor in Toronto indicated that Stern is ‘considering’ increasing the number of LEs from 500 to 600.
He would confirm tomorrow with Stern.

Either way, I’m personally not canceling my order (as I love the color pf with the extras) and feel that a hundred more owners are likely going to be very happy.

True...I've got mine coming, so don't really care...Time for a pinside break on this title for me until after it arrives... February soon!!!

You are buying a EE in lieu of LE.

@Skyemont, in my opinion all the editions look sharp.
I’m still ok with buying an E-LE, extended limited edition.
I’m guessing we’ll get full clarification on this tomorrow.

Just purchased the LE cant wait the pro was missing way to much and the premium I did not like the black and white..

U know the pro is only missing the lower playfield as far as gameplay stuff? That's really not much compared to most other titles....

No question this game drops in price on the used market. No question. Percent of how much is up to debate but unless you need this game nib, the smarter play is used huo.

I wouldn't buy any of the models but if I had to, pro all the way.

Don’t piss your money away . Pick one and be happy !! The next great thing will be out soon!!

They should do 200 more LE! 100 B&W cabinet and color PF and 100 color cabinet and B&W PF

For sure everything drops nib but pros don't drop a whole lot in most cases considering the initial cost. The guy i quoted will be waiting a long while for 30 percent drop tho lol...

Skipping.

After all the crap I went through w/ my Ghostbusters LE, I'll never buy another Stern.