i'd go with ColorDMD, but Invisiglass is great as well!

I have both, but if I had to have only one, it would definitely be the Color DMD. No question.

To be fair I get invisible type glass on sale usually comes out to $150-200 so that is half the cost of ColorDMD. That said I'd get the glass first as it directly impacts gameplay and clarity. ColorDMD is also one of the coolest mods on the market just a bit more pricey and doesn't impact gameplay. I still see ColorDMD as a must have mod if it supports full color on the pin I have.

ColorDMD! All Day! Say it with your chest!

Marcus

ColorDMD at least you can see it...

It *CAN* enhance gameplay, specifically video modes. I do much better on Indy in the video modes when using colordmd.

ColorDMD for me easily. I don;t have much of a problem seeing through glass as it is

I've got invisiglass on several machines that don't have color DMD and I like it very much.

On Judge Dredd I have both colorDMD and invisiglass and it is stupendous. No, this JD is not a $1400 game folks.

Not to you anyway

ColorDMD

So far the coolest mod I've installed to any of my machines although Ive never seen invisiglass and haven't got my 2.0 kit yet for BOP.

Eh not really IMO but does make it look much cooler that's for sure.

You really want both. But I always get PDI on my machine first, then ColorDMD once I save up some more bread.

Put in another way, do I prefer the color LCD screen or Invisiglass on my WOZ? Which one would I give up first ...

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Alex, I'll take "conundrums I cannot solve" for $1000."

Sure sure...so now the glass has to be "dialed in" too?

No option for neither? I would rather have another cheap game than spend $800 on two things that don't make much difference imo.

Must be in the can.

I would just think color DMD is more of a "MOD," and since everyone is so goddamn mod crazy, it would be more popular.

You also have to factor in at least 23% of Pinside users probably don;t play their machines, just look at them, so ColorDMD wins there.

I don't typically agree with much of anything neo says, but I just don't have much of a problem seeing the playfield on games. Rip off? No. Just not worth the money to me.

I'll break from the others and instead say " it depends". If you can manage the glare .. Color dmd. If glare is a problem for you and simply putting new in scratched glass isn't good enough then splurge on the glass first. In our shop the glass makes a huge difference. It won't in all environments.

Neo clearly believes that Invisiglass/PDI is a rip-off, so I'm afraid you're disagreeing with him once again!

Are you epileptic? If not I'd get these upgrades, in this order.

LED's - ColorDMD - Invisiglass

end of line

Glass > DMD. But both rock.

^ Don't forget LED OCD!

I'm going to say.....

it depends.

Invisiglass is awesome in that it's doing it's job if you don't see it...
ColorDMDs are great if you do see them.

But, that said, I spend more time looking at the playfield than at the DMD. But ColorDMD always gets oohs and aahs from people watching. That said, folks who go to my TronLE with invisiglass don't even comment on it. Except the occasional person who tries to touch the playfield and doesn't realize that there is actually glass in!

I've a question, when I play in a dim darkened room. Would PDI glass still be a big benifit? I was thinking it helps more when you have things reflecting onto the glass or overhead lights but I've never tried it out myself.

Also what type of cleaning solution do you need for PDI glass? Do regualar glass cleaners harm the PDI glass?

I must be in the minority, but in the few times I have encountered it, I have had to be told it was invisiglass as I never noticed it. Even with close inspection, I struggled to appreciate much difference.

So, yeah. ColorDMD by a mile.

never tried either but I think i would go with the glass on two games for the same price as color dmd on one. I agree with some of you that a bulk of my time is spent looking at the playfield.

I'm partially color blind, and that makes it difficult to distinguish some shades of red/orange. Much easier for me to play the minecart mode.

Only $150 to turn your games from looking like hot garbage into the nicest lit and polished looking game around. It's almost unfair to include it in a thread suggesting the best mod for the money.

I've been yelling a at Gweem all day about this one.

ColorDMD. Not even close.

I'll live with my peasant glass...

A lot of people use Invisible Glass cleaner. It's recommended to use cleaners that are non-ammonia based I believe.

ColorDMD all the way. I've almost never seen enough glare on the glass to detract from a game. Only game it bothered me on was Avengers...but I put some electrical tape on the backbox bulb to dim it, and that solved the issue enough for me.

Only glare I usually notice: From DMDs. Glare Guards solves that for regular DMDs. ColorDMDs give off such little glare, that I usually remove the Glare Guard once ColorDMD is installed.

invisiglass no question... how often are you looking at the playfield vs the DMD??

I use bent plastics to get rid of DMD glare and it works fine. My only game that has a serious glare issue from the backbox is also a crappy fluorescent bulb game though: Breakshot. I would feel dumb putting a $300 sheet of glass on Breakshot.

I've got PDI and CDMD on all my games. I wouldn't want to be without either one now that I've had them.

In my case, I bought PDI glass first. Adding CDMD to each as they are released.

FWIW, I have PDI for its clarity, not glare reduction. It literally looks like there is no glass on the machine.

I used to be strongly opposed to the 'over priced glass' but once I actually put it in I saw a huge difference in clarity vs. regular glass. Not only for reflection but for its clarity. It looks like it's not even there making my the playfield appear a bit crisper and LEDs richer. I know it's hard to believe like I said I was a hater before saying it's just glass and it's too much. After putting it in I think it is well worth it if you catch a sale and get it for $200 or less.

I vote ColorDMD for my games.

I guess the lighting is just right in my gameroom. I've had people assume that I do have Invisiglass in them, but it's standard glass across the board.

ColorDMD by a wide margin on this one. One of the unheralded advantages of ColorDMD is that the screen is polarized and cuts down on playfield glass reflection big time. No more need for a glare guard. Spend the money on the DMD and proper lighting for your gameroom and forget the fancy glass (unless you are made of money).

Same here. Proper light, dark ceilings and no bright LEDs in the backbox makes all the difference in the world. Nice, clean, unscratched $35 sheets of glass on all of my games except WOZ LE and there is no appreciable difference. Never had a single person comment on the difference let alone say "wow".

same, I'm not even a huge fan of Jack/JJP but invisiglass is awesome... one day I smashed my hand into it really hard because i simply didn't notice it was there, I thought I had removed it already!

Ive had a few embarrassing moments where I tried to reach in and adjust something without removing the glass. Makes me laugh and shake my head every time it happens.

I can see the playfield just fine with normal glass. I love DMD animation, and I'd rather have color animation than a sheet of glass that offers a solution for a problem I don't see.

If the playfield us lit up well, glare is really not an issue for me. cdmd for sure on this one.

I go color dmd. I dont like having fear that i will scratch my glass. Scratching a dollar glass is no big deal. 150-180 *shudder*
Best mod is the pin gulp!