I live in the Bay Area which sucks. I hate it here. Here for the kids and job.

Goal is to move to our vacation home eventually. It is in California but is relatively inexpensive, homes can be had for 300k, no traffic and on a lake. Get all the joys of California (weather, scenery, etc) without the insane prices.

I have tried to find some place better (visit a different state every year) but nothing compares for our life style.

Only 14 more years to go!!

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I do believe California has good qualities. Where I want to eventually live is more conservative than anywhere I went in Texas or Tennessee plus no humidity. You can find one stop light towns in California, you just have to look.

Sure some things are still more expensive (gas) but the trade off of scenery, weather are are worth the added costs for me and I have built that in to my retirement. If I find somewhere better I may jump ship but I don’t see it happening.

This place is for me truly heaven!

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Maybe your state is different but you should visit California and maybe you would feel differently.

Copperopolis, lake Tulloch

My family has property on Maui. Is is an amazing place to visit. I would have no interest to live there. Cool for at the most two weeks at a time and then get me off that island.

Since this thread is a little off track and if money is no object really the ideal situation for me would be to have a home base (Copperopolis), property in Hawaii and then maybe one other time share maybe in Colorado/Montana and just roll between the three of them depending on weather and time of the year.

I guess that would be my dream scenario and actually may be able to accomplish it in retirement but for now stuck in the bay.

I just want people to stay out of my shit. People need to take responsibility for their own actions. It is probably way too over simplified but that is why I love Copperopolis so much. I don't need a law telling me everything I should and shouldn't do some of that should be straight common sense.

Trying to escape California we visited Texas. It wasn't for me. Atleast where we went wasn't, I understand it is a huge state, but the heat didn't kill me but the humidity sure did. We came back to California and it was 103 degrees and my wife and I commented on how it was the coolest 103 degrees we had ever felt after being in Texas. I guess I am a wussy, I just can't handle that!

As stated my goal is to have home base and travel. May not go as extreme as your thinking but down for a couple months at a time. That is the goal once the kids are raised. Life always can throw curve balls but I am playing percentages and am putting myself in a financial position to do so.

Cost of living!!! You better make 300k+++ and have some help to be able to buy a house and it is just getting worse.

My house is probably 1.5 and we were looking to upgrade. 2 million for fixer uppers.

Just straight nasty!

Don’t know how kids out of college or young families can ever afford that without major help!

I am saying the odds of my children have the same/better life in the bay without significant financial help would be nearly impossible. It would be very difficult to do better than the previous generation which I believe is the hope for most parents for their children.

As someone mentioned earlier multiple generations in one home.

Still the housing problem is very real. On my street at work there are now multiple motor homes parked and workers are living in the motor homes on street in front of their work.

Multi generational homes is how many are doing it now. I though the bubble would burst too but so many people are willing to commute and do it, I don't know if it will. I know even if my kids are very successful they will not have a shot at home ownership without a lot of help if they want to stay in the bay. I am basically planning on giving them my house in the future. As my goal is to get the hell out of here!!

Let’s get back on topic!

Where we want to live!

Be there in two hours!

And I get update the ghost busters code when I get there!

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