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Where to put pinball in vacation rental?

By curban

1 year ago


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    #1 1 year ago

    I'm moving a pretty nice T2 pin into a beach vacation rental property and wouldn't mind hearing Pinsider advice where to put it. This is a 7 bedroom property that is usually rented for large family get-togethers or groups of friends. The options are either the first floor game room next to the 2 arcades, billiard table, and ping pong, or third floor great room (living/dining). My concern about putting it on the first floor is mostly about unsupervised kids...the pool & hot tub are right outside the game room. My concerns are: dripping wet kids running between pool & pinball, flying billiard balls (already had a TV shattered), and kids picking at or vandalizing the cabinet (for some reason no ping pong paddle has ever lasted a season without the all the rubber getting picked off). I assume the third floor is typically supervised, but a T2 doesn't really blend well with the beachy-nice decor, and I envision mom's complaining about the T2 distracting from the dinner table and Arnold's half-torn face freaking out the infants. What do you think?

    #2 1 year ago

    I’m all for pins in a rental property, I’ve done it myself. But, in this situation I don’t think it’s a great idea unless you can rearrange the room in a way that’s there no chance an errant ball hits it. Even then doesn’t sounds like a great fit.

    #3 1 year ago
    Quoted from curban:

    I'm moving a pretty nice T2 pin into a beach vacation rental property and wouldn't mind hearing Pinsider advice where to put it. This is a 7 bedroom property that is usually rented for large family get-togethers or groups of friends. The options are either the first floor game room next to the 2 arcades, billiard table, and ping pong, or third floor great room (living/dining). My concern about putting it on the first floor is mostly about unsupervised kids...the pool & hot tub are right outside the game room. My concerns are: dripping wet kids running between pool & pinball, flying billiard balls (already had a TV shattered), and kids picking at or vandalizing the cabinet (for some reason no ping pong paddle has ever lasted a season without the all the rubber getting picked off). I assume the third floor is typically supervised, but a T2 doesn't really blend well with the beachy-nice decor, and I envision mom's complaining about the T2 distracting from the dinner table and Arnold's half-torn face freaking out the infants. What do you think?

    I wouldnt recommend T2 in a rental that has young kids going through, there is the potential for kids to be scared of the thing. A family with a 2 year old might not come back if their little one is scared of the furniture. I would put Walking Dead in the same category. May seem silly, but little kids are not logical.

    #4 1 year ago

    For the first floor option the arcades and pin are tucked a bit away from the pool table. I think it would be one-in-a-million for an honest shot (or even a drunk shot) to take out the pin. Can I picture other shenanigans such as kids rolling billiard balls on the pinball glass - sadly, yes. But maybe that's just me. Anyway - the machine is gong somewhere in the rental. Maybe I just gotta nut-up and not sweat about what might happen.

    #5 1 year ago
    Quoted from curban:

    For the first floor option the arcades and pin are tucked a bit away from the pool table. I think it would be one-in-a-million for an honest shot (or even a drunk shot) to take out the pin. Can I picture other shenanigans such as kids rolling billiard balls on the pinball glass - sadly, yes. But maybe that's just me. Anyway - the machine is gong somewhere in the rental. Maybe I just gotta nut-up and not sweat about what might happen.

    If it’s going in regardless, def the first floor. Keep all the games together. The parents will enjoy the separation of space.

    #6 1 year ago

    Why does it HAVE to go into the rental? It’s gonna get beat on for sure, even if it only is a T2, and do you put up a sign saying what to do if a ball gets stuck? Or is the game out of commission for the rest of their stay?

    #7 1 year ago
    Quoted from sataneatscheese:

    I wouldnt recommend T2 in a rental that has young kids going through, there is the potential for kids to be scared of the thing. A family with a 2 year old might not come back if their little one is scared of the furniture. I would put Walking Dead in the same category. May seem silly, but little kids are not logical.

    ...yeah I hear you. That's what I was concerned about putting it on 3rd floor...needed to hear it from someone else. I didn't think this would be much of an issue in the game room, though...maybe I'm making a mistake. Was really trying to put another cool toy into the property...you know, share the love of pinball.

    #8 1 year ago

    How are you going to handle the stuck ball scenario?

    #9 1 year ago
    Quoted from PoMC:

    Why does it HAVE to go into the rental? It’s gonna get beat on for sure, even if it only is a T2, and do you put up a sign saying what to do if a ball gets stuck? Or is the game out of commission for the rest of their stay?

    ...yeah, stuck balls was another concern. Was thinking about hiding a key and leaving a number for parents to call for instructions.

    #10 1 year ago

    ...and T2 was my game with fewest stuck balls (only 1 since I purchased a year ago).

    #11 1 year ago

    Yeah, I don’t recall a stuck ball often when owned several T2s. But lots of other dumb stuff can happen and I wouldn’t ask anyone to take the glass off a game if they’ve never done it before. Nor would I want any calls from renters. I just don’t see any positive outcome of adding a pinball machine. They’re already having a great time in what sounds like an awesome house and have other games to keep busy with if the weather is bad.

    #12 1 year ago

    Salt water or fresh water beach house?

    #13 1 year ago

    ......and the volume will not be adjustable if you don’t have the keys handy. I just can picture a 4 player game started by kids, who then walk away after ball one. Now all you hear in that room is that annoying sound of the skill shot targets moving until someone turns the game off.

    #14 1 year ago
    Quoted from DaMoib:

    Salt water or fresh water beach house?

    OBX - salt water

    Quoted from PoMC:

    ......and the volume will not be adjustable if you don’t have the keys handy. I just can picture a 4 player game started by kids, who then walk away after ball one. Now all you hear in that room is that annoying sound of the skill shot targets moving until someone turns the game off.

    ...was going to leave volume kinda-quiet.

    Sounds like Pinside is telling me this is a mistake. I'm only 1-1/2 year into the hobby. Was hoping to spread love/joy of pinball, but maybe better listen to the more-experienced and haul it back home.

    #15 1 year ago
    Quoted from curban:

    Sounds like Pinside is telling me this is a mistake.

    I don’t think it’s a total mistake. Perhaps a vid would be a more fool proof bet. If I were putting in a pin, I’d have a framed picture on the wall, bright yellow or orange background, with the rules for use. Any other damage comes out of security deposit.

    #16 1 year ago

    There are some owners in threads like this:
    https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/airbnb-listings-with-pinball

    Check with them as to their experiences...

    Anyone have experience with keeping pins at the beach? Maintenance tips? You always see those Craig's List horror shows, but I suppose if it was that bad, Silverball Museum wouldn't locate on the Asbury Park boardwalk.

    #17 1 year ago

    I own a few beach rental properties. No way I'd put a pin in them. Too much can go wrong.

    I put a 60 n 1 in one that people seem to love, even a driver would be cool but too much can go wrong with a pin.

    Then to top it off, something you included as a cool bonus becomes a negative review point when it inevitably breaks down

    #18 1 year ago

    I like the idea but can see the concerns most people would have. Do you know of anyone down there that can service or at least go and take care of little issues like stuck balls, etc? If you were closer I think it would make more sense since you could go over there when needed.

    #19 1 year ago
    Quoted from Jeffswack:

    I own a few beach rental properties. No way I'd put a pin in them. Too much can go wrong.
    I put a 60 n 1 in one that people seem to love, even a driver would be cool but too much can go wrong with a pin.

    Have the 60 in 1 for a couple of years (someone started peeling the decal off, but no major issue). Adding a sit-down hydro thunder this year.
    After seeing feedback above about the pin...I'll probably hmm & haw for next day or two before deciding whether I'm going to unload the T2 from my SUV and set it up, or just take it back home with me. T2 was going to be the guinnea pig, with potential swaps in future years for newer ones if it works out.

    #20 1 year ago

    People don’t care about your stuff. Don’t do it.

    #21 1 year ago
    Quoted from YZRider926:

    I like the idea but can see the concerns most people would have. Do you know of anyone down there that can service or at least go and take care of little issues like stuck balls, etc? If you were closer I think it would make more sense since you could go over there when needed.

    ...service was my biggest concern. Was going to hide a key and leave a call number for instructions. Could get my Property Management company to help, but they cost $'s that I'd like to keep in my pocket.

    Quoted from Multiballmaniac1:

    People don’t care about your stuff. Don’t do it.

    ...right you are. People suck. But people are also great. The rental is ultimately a business and I like to offer some not-everyday-options to make the place stand-out. Also want to give people good experience and positive memories. So far, my rentals have done well and I get a lot of repeat renters...like to think it's because I work my ass off on this place and put in $'s.

    Think I'm gonna give this a trial run... Maybe it works / maybe it fails completely and I haul it out of here in June or July. If it's a failure...at least I know I was cautioned by the Pinside community. Maybe you'll find a bargain project T2 on here in a couple of months!

    Appreciate all the input...even if it seems I'm going against the grain. Thanks everyone!

    #22 1 year ago

    Hey, a pin is commercial grade coin-op so should be ok. The only issue would be if it's collector quality and you want to keep it that way.
    P.S. Wish the house we're renting at the shore had a pin!!

    #23 1 year ago
    Quoted from poppapin:

    Hey, a pin is commercial grade coin-op so should be ok. The only issue would be if it's collector quality and you want to keep it that way.
    P.S. Wish the house we're renting at the shore had a pin!!

    It's definitely not collectors quality. Fully-working players condition that has been touched-up quite nicely. I'd be disappointed if it does get 'vandalized'; but I can live with it and chalk it up as a lesson learned.

    #24 1 year ago

    I wouldn’t put any of those fun toys ina rental.

    -1
    #25 1 year ago

    Put the pin in the gameroom 1st floor. Not sure why the large majority says not to.

    Yes, there’s a risk, but people would love it and I assume most of your other stuff doesn’t get trashed either?

    #26 1 year ago
    Quoted from curban:

    It's definitely not collectors quality. Fully-working players condition that has been touched-up quite nicely. I'd be disappointed if it does get 'vandalized'; but I can live with it and chalk it up as a lesson learned.

    Isn't there a security deposit? Leave it on coin drop!!

    #27 1 year ago
    Quoted from curban:

    OBX - salt water

    I was thinking of going to OBX this summer whats the schedule like? PM me with info if there are any openings.

    #28 1 year ago

    I have beach rental properties and put a Megatouch in for the kids and adults to freeplay. People seem to like it and it takes up very little space. As far as a pinball near a hot tub, I wouldn't. A kid gets a shock from touching the game while soaking wet and your homeowners insurance is going to be tested big time! If you do, make SURE the ground plug is in place and post signs reminding people that pinball must not be played when wet. The pool ball/backglass/kid situation is a sure recipe for disaster also!

    #29 1 year ago
    Quoted from fiberdude120:

    I was thinking of going to OBX this summer whats the schedule like? PM me with info if there are any openings.

    ...for now place is booked solid, but lotsa people concerned about a flood of cancellations. I'll keep you in mind.

    Quoted from sbmania:

    I have beach rental properties and put a Megatouch in for the kids and adults to freeplay. People seem to like it and it takes up very little space. As far as a pinball near a hot tub, I wouldn't. A kid gets a shock from touching the game while soaking wet and your homeowners insurance is going to be tested big time! If you do, make SURE the ground plug is in place and post signs reminding people that pinball must not be played when wet. The pool ball/backglass/kid situation is a sure recipe for disaster also!

    ...went through diligently to ensure everything was grounded properly before I packed it up. Also putting up rules & signs reminding "No Wet Suits!!!", etc.

    #30 1 year ago

    Here's my two cents. I've got a rental lodge in Hocking hills Ohio.
    It has a virtual pinball machine, revenge from Mars, a multicade, and APB (an older police driving arcade game).
    The place is a family magnet because of all those machines there. if one thing breaks down, it's not really an issue since there's other things to play. Also, I only live an hour away, so if things ever break down I can just go and take care of stuff. I also put notes that say the approximate value of the arcade machines and let people know if you break it you buy it.
    The rental itself is about 500 to 600 a night, so it keeps the riff raff out. Usually people with that amount of money treat things nicely. I haven't had any problems yet. My dad also has two cabins, one with getaway and the other with game of thrones and they are a big attraction.
    Here's my place:
    https://www.luxuryloghomelodginghockinghills.com/Rosewood-Lodge-Hocking-Hills.html

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    1 week later
    #31 1 year ago

    Update - after disregarding all of those that said this was a mistake. I set my T2 up in the gameroom. It’s my most dependable machine with fewest stuck balls and no problems. I played probably fifty games. Everything was perfect.

    I left the OBX to return to PA Sunday at noon. Renters arrived Sunday evening. Received a text saying there’s a problem with the right flipper today at 3pm. D’oh!!! Worked fine for a while and then lost all strength. He sent a video of the flipper activating weakly. My guess - Maybe the EOS is stuck in low voltage.

    I will get this one fixed...but if this stuff keeps happening I’ll be hauling the machine back home soon.

    Anyone know someone capable of performing flipper service near south nags head? I called Flippers arcade and asked if they could set me up with a repairman...waiting to hear back. (Flippers is great...don’t miss it if you’re ever in the area!!!).

    4 months later
    #32 1 year ago

    Another Update:
    - So the handyman with my property management company had zero prior experience with pinball, but was pretty sharp about getting that right flipper back to full strength in that first week.
    - For next 2-3 weeks afterwards, I received calls about "stuck balls" each week. I had a key hidden in the property and walked renters through sliding the glass off and releasing the balls...no problems.
    - Then the calls stopped
    - In week 6, I was in the area and decided to check up on the machine. The bracket holding the assembly of the left flipper was broken and the coil stop was 'dangling'. I MacGyver'ed it back together by screwing the back end of the bracket into the bottom of the playfield guessing it would not hold up at all.
    - no calls for next 8 weeks
    - went back in week 9 to see that everything was working fine, except maybe the right flipper was a little weak - the flipper coil was a little gummed-up; I cleaned it out and reinstalled and the flipper was back to good strength.
    - no calls since

    So with first full season almost complete, I feel things could have been better but they could have also been much worse. I think I'm going to swap a different machine in during the off-season and see what happens next year.

    Interesting to note: I added a Hydrothunder, Sammy Bear and Moose Hunting, and T2 pinball at the beginning of the season. My high scores on T2 have all been untouched, but my name fell off all the high score lists on the two old arcade machines. Either the arcades are getting a ton more play, average people are terrible at pinball, or I'm terrible at boat racing and hunting!

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