Thanks Wayner. The jokes are to be expected, those don't bother me. What does: here we go again with all the arguments about how 110V is safer, how current relates to voltage, blah blah blah. I know all that. Yet, the folks here on Pinside will keep arguing a point that advises newbs that 110V is completely safe so the grounding is not important. Really, it's a just simple precautionary measure to take.

I think you're inferring what wasn't stated or even implied!

No guts, no glory
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especially if your playing without wearing pants.

If you are really worried about safety, add a GFCI outlet or breaker to the circuit. It would be far more effective than a bunch of outhouse engineered added grounds.

What you are doing is just adding a GFCI to a circuit with a pre-broken ground. Such an elegant solution.

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You wouldn't want that grill standing just outside of the pool, that would of been to easy. To quote Monty Python, "3 Men in a Tub".

Please redraw your cartoon with the GFCI popped.

Man, why do so vehemently oppose the installation of a proper grounding, which is a very easy upgrade to make both cleanly and professionally?

What about the situation where the game is put on location or travels to a show...are you going to demand a GFCI be installed?

At home I have GFCI on all my basement outlets, and in the example I gave earlier the game that shorted 110V to the coin door both popped the breaker and the GFCI. I didn't even have a chance to find out if I would have gotten zapped...because I had a proper ground wire installed.

I'm generally against scare tactics that don't give a proper representation of the risks involved, regardless of the situation. If you want to ground your game, I really don't give a rip. If you want to scare everyone with some risk that has yet rear it's ugly head, then a little perspective is in order.

Well my perspective is that I have to quality control power entry and ground systems in my profession, and simply apply those principles to all my electronic devices. Sure, I've been shocked by 110VAC many times. I've survived all those times. Though the risk of injury is small I still advise to properly ground. Not to scare, but because it is the right thing to do.

was that red to red? or red to black?

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That's how you pay your legtrissidy bill in the 313.

Well said Way Out.

Always ground. Not because it's the pinball shock that will kill you. Ground because it is the right thing to do.

I spent all day on US Navy ships working on cabinet grounds. It's an important thing. And we take things seriously.