Thanks for sharing the Paul Stanley signing. If you get a chance, check out Paul Stanley's Soul Station. Saw them at a small club in LA and was blown away.

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I'm getting some occasional inconsistencies during play:

Randomly, a locked ball will spit out of Gene's head, so I'm playing a 2-ball multiball for no reason.

Usually the 2nd ball in the demon lock registers, but it takes a ball search before a new ball is sent to the shooter lane.

Any troubleshooting ideas?

I had the pro model and two balls at once caused it to jam, only solution on forums I could find was to buy a magnet on a stick to remove the ball

Never had any trouble with my le head,just some kicker power anj and and that is it, so sorry folks are so frustrated with the head and can't seem to get it sourted out

Thanks for sharing RD. Even though it was very brief you got a book personally signed and will be something you will always remember.

I have met Ace twice. And probably the hardest one to meet is Peter Criss. I got to meet him once.

Stern made a fix to prevent 2 balls being stuck in Gene. We had the same issue, but their tech support sent a replacement part that was easy to install and permanently fixed the issue.

Ive met Gene before, in Australia. This would have been around 2002 ish I guess, on the reunion tour where Singer replaced Criss.

Good story that one .. we went to a show in Melbourne and they were handing out flyers after the show for a “KISS after party ... the band might show up!” at a nightclub.

So we say, what the hell, let’s head along. It’s in a nice club in the Crown casino. We are there for a while, and then Gene walks in. He comes right up to us and talks a little. He has a very effeminate handshake! Then he goes upstairs to the VIP mezzanine area. All the band arrived seperately over the next hour, but they all went straight upstairs. We could see them all up there with about 30 VIPs.

We didn’t have access to the upstairs area, but I was joking to the bouncer that he should let us up there. He was laughing, “no way” etc etc. After about half an hour, he turned away for a second and I whipped up the stairs behind him. He looked up at the mezzanine and I waved down at him ... he shook his fist at me but he knew he was beaten and he let me stay up there. Sweet!

I went to go to the bathroom and walk head on into Ace! He was staggering out the door with a minder holding him up, he was so drunk. “Hi Ace!” “Bleeerrghhh!!” he replied. Lol!

Singer was sitting in a booth with some people, he didn’t look super happy to be there so I left him to it. Doc McGee, Thayer, they were all there. I just hung out and drunk the free drinks.

Fun times! So many stories ... I forget I’ve done half of this shit.

rd

That’s awesome RD.....wish I had the jet setting lifestyle you have LOL!

Met you at TPF earlier this year..hope you make it back next year. Always enjoy hearing of your travels.

How do i get this part? Just call Stern?

Was it a part, or just this?

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That's a pro-only problem, and I believe there's a factory kit for it to fix it that's free for the asking.

So, another mention of the final update on the monthly newsletter.

Can't say I am overly hopeful of anything significant.

A few Champion awards would be great though.

That is a cool story. I am a little shaken by Gene's womanly greeting.

I have never met the boys, but here is my close encounter:

We saw Kiss at the Sturgis rally in SD several years ago (Alice Cooper on Friday, Kiss on Saturday). Before the KISS show we slipped into the VIP tent which gave access to free booze, free food, standing room right in front of the stage and our own Very Important Port-a-potty's which were off to the side of the stage. While walking to the bathroom, I notice that only a fence separated me from the stairs leading to the back of the stage. I joked to my buddies that I was going back stage. After another beer I decided to go for it.

I slipped back in to the VIP tent, grabbed some random papers to hold as a prop and when no one was looking I climbed the fence, confidently strode to the stairs and started trotting up to the stage. There were two security guys at the top of the stairs. I held eye contact with them the entire time and when I got within 10 or so steps I said, "good job tonight guys, but let's keep these stairs clear." They parted and I walked right past them (wearing a Kiss shirt, beer in one hand, random papers in the other). I made a bee line to the back of the stage where I saw several roadies watching the show. I started slapping shoulders and shaking hands saying things like - 'hell of a job guys - best show of the week - you guys are real pros'. Holy shit, I couldn't believe I had done this - and I couldn't believe it worked! So I stood right behind Fake Catman and took in the show until the encore. I didn't want to take a chance of being questioned when the band came off stage to wait for the encore, so I wandered back by the trailers. I found a random cooler with cold Coors Light which I raided for one. Then I came back for the finale. It was fucking nuts to watch the fireworks and flash pots going off from behind the stage. I stuck around as the show ended - Gene and Paul walked right past me (leaving me feeling rather short). I waited for about 15 minutes and then texted my buddies to, keep an eye on the stage. I ran out on the stage, did a Demon Kick and then jumped off the stage and ran into the crowd.

Good times... good times.

What's wrong with the actual code/game?
I played some games on a Pro and find the game nice, with fast and smooth shots. I don't understand the rules, is it a scoring game or a mission game? What game is a bit similar on gameplay? I'm looking now to buy a Pro but i don't understand why the ranking is so low.

With the latest code getting to Kiss Army Multiball and Heaven's on Fire (Mine is Hard Luck Woman) are very doable. Once you finish that there is no where else to go. The hope is that they utilize the Cities as currently they don't do anything. Maybe that will make is a challenge after you get to the last 2 multiballs.

The game is so much fun to play. I have a Pro. Wish I got an LE but the Pro is lots of fun to play. First thing is change the songs up.

There is 10X Rock City which is THE place to get to according to Elwin and Sharpe!

Great to see that The new state of the union still has a final update for Kiss, if your on the fence to buy one now is the time to pull the trigger, prices will go up once the final polish is in and more people give Kiss another another chance and realize what a great game this is!

check out dead flips video on youtube. he crushed it at 1.5 billion! also lit colossal combo.

Nowhere else to go? Uh, at that point, Rock City Wizard mode is still left.

Do you like Kiss more than TWD? (If you have one, based on your avatar)

I have both, and i cant get anything going on TWD with all the outlane drains. It is starting to get to me enough i have been thinking of trading it.
Kiss i play and know what i have to do, and its not that easy to get to but its not frustrating.

That’s a cool story that’s the best I’ve heard well done.

How do you get to Rock City Wizard mode? I thought the wizard mode was not programmed yet?
My bad.

TWD is a great game but yes it is frustrating. KISS is a ton of fun. Hard to say I like it better but it sure is easier to play.

Yoyokpter outlanes mod is a must have on TWD. It's just too hard and frustating on stock settings that it's really not a joy to play. I trade my first one for that reason, anytime i played it i wanted to smash the glass and destroy the machine. I love hard games (my others machine are IM and BSD so i'm a bit of a masochist) but TWD on stock settings... not for me. Once you put the game on the "easy" side (without put 5 balls of course) it's better.
How are the rules on Kiss? Do you know a pin that is closer rules wise? Met, ACDC?

KISS is a reasonably coded game. TWD is one of the best coded games ever. TWD is a hard game, but it doesn't have to be. Lots of software settings and mods to make the game easier; multiple outlane post options, geometry tweaks, longer flipper bats, and other subtle changes. It's not hard or expensive.

Beyond that it just comes down to a theme difference preference. PF is Borg on both with similarities.

Tunnel is a very hard shot on TWD, but when you success, it feels very goooooood
I love this kind of shot between bumpers!

Plus, there's nothing more exciting / nerve-wracking than hitting a clean tunnel shot too.

It's not beautiful, but it's all there. You need to make all the kiss face orbs by the flippers solid (not blinking).

This. The game is much better with this mod. I love it. Only negative is, if you want to get better, best to leave as is. If the goal is to just enjoy the machine, get this mod. It’s basically putting in the post above the outlanes that most sterns have, but without drilling.

Outlanes are still tough (esp left outlane) with this mod, but definitely makes the game more fun.

I added a Scoop Mantis protector it makes the scoop harder I believe . I was doing glass off testing and I forget which Multi- Ball I was in Demon or LGMG ? I have only had the game for a week .
Anyway my Question is regarding one of the Multi-Ball after repeating I think each shoot (2) times you get a (roving) shot. I was also testing the spinning disc as I added a custom decal sick of black residue .
So on the ( Roving ) shot it moves fast . I was manually flipping the pinball into Gene's Head when the (Roving Shot ) would light Gene's insert . It would never count as a Super Jackpot . Nothing would happen . I know the opto is working . I would hit other ( Roving ) shots and it would register and start the Multi- Ball over I manually hit all the shots twice got ( Roving ) shot again and pushed in pass Gene opto and again Gene would not trigger the Super Jackpot to start Multi-ball over . I tested the opto in game and in test it works . Sorry I do not know exactly what Multiball I was in I think " Demon " But I think there is a Code glitch . I am not that good at hitting the shot between the PoP bumpers so I will never see it in real gameplay . Is there an error in Code for collecting Super Jack pot via ( Roving ) fast lit shot when it is on the Gene Simmons Head I think there is ? Some one Test there game glass off to verify ? Or A KISS pinball Wizard please verify . Thank You.

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Yes they are. It doesn't make it too easy. Just like it should be in my opinion.

I posted a status and first glance video of my recoded KISS Pro. Covers some of the new design of modes and features in the new code.

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/kiss-remastered-kiss-code-project

I love this game 100%! But since February I’m trying to collect them all and......not yet, always Spaceman keep me there and not able to achieve the Wizard. Just finished my highest record ever 172M, 2 Love Guns and 2 Demons and wasn’t my time, thanks to Space Ace

I hope that Thundergod76 or Vireland are around for a nice tip about it.

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Shot and playfield multipliers are the key. I generally play Deuce (with Black Diamond music) and when I'm done and the shots go white, hit the center shot to multiply the center shot, then Lick It Up (lighting 2x) and hit the orbit white arrow to multiply that. Then start Lovegun or Demon multiball. Then Detroit Rock City song, then any other song except hotter than hell or Black Diamond (those two are essentially the hardest/longest to finish). I try to spam the right ramp whenever I can to light instruments since that ramp is SO HARD to hit reliably. Then when I have 4 instruments, KISS, and ARMY, go for the scoop to get heaven's on fire.

Still hoping for a great final update as this game has tons of personality, something missing from so many games. More funny call outs would be awesome plus Champion awards etc.

Can't help think Stern could have/still can maybe sell a ton more of these if they just polish the code.

I played DILE today that was next to a KISS pro.

Guess which I preferred?

KISS of course

I added Gene's "holy shit" and "face it, you suck" to the ball save callouts. Always get a chuckle when they come up after a quick drain.

Total shame that Geno's infamous Fox News meeting wasn't recorded.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/fox-news-bans-kiss-frontman-gene-simmons-for-life

I hear this a lot and yet on my KISS Pro it is easy to backhand from the right flipper. I cradle the ball and as soon as the ball starts rolling I flip it up the right ramp. It has just enough gas to get up the ramp. I'm an average player at best and I can hit that right ramp shot 80% of the time.

First thing I do after selecting Deuce is to nail the center ramp 4 times to lit the pop bumper caps and go for the right orbit on the 5th shot. Occasionally, I can complete the Catman insert in 5 consecutive shots. Then I go for the right ramp to start the instrument collection.

I think KISS is a fairly hard game. I rarely complete over 2 modes in a game. My out lanes are evil.

What is your incline set at? I can't imagine getting enough power on a backhand to get it up the ramp, but I am setup fairly steep.

That’s pretty funny ...

rd

Maybe it's a Prem/LE to Pro difference. I only play on Prem/LE.

I can do it on my LE. Never on the fly, or nearly 100%, but can be done. Has to be a very clean shot. Fun to make to start Love Gun.

It can be done. I find it easier to try and backhand the right ramp, it is a tight shot from the left flipper.

I've done it by accident, but never on purpose.

If the final update does not include Champion awards, could they be done via pinball browser?

Friend had a massive Kiss Army score with a mega Super Jackpot. It would really add to the game if these were Champion awards.

Pinball browser just allows you to replace game assets like music and video. Won't allow you to add or change code. You would have to recode the machine to add that.

Oh well.

Well, I just really hope that Stern get these into this game as it is becoming one of my most favorite Sterns ever