Headset volume 63?!

And I was impressed when it only went to 11.

I just bought a NIB Pro and am holding off on unboxing it until the new code drops.

You might be out of warranty when that happens, by the time you fix all your warranty issues like decals falling off, cracked ramps, blown node boards and a few more other issues you wil be ready for the update. Heck a pin side member on here had to send his entire machine back, just sayin. At least by the time I get back from deployment they will most likely have worked out the bugs of the next code release lol

The next code release? They can't even get this code released.

I wish Stern would hire me as a consultant...I just want to ask Lonnie the following..."what would you say you do around here?"

I know we are not allowed to bad mouth people on the forums, but all I can say is the pre-Dwight Star Trek code, the current KISS code and the inability to release the KISS update speaks volumes.

It's already out of warranty. I bought it for a great price from a local Pinsider who bought it last year and ended up never opening it.

Are you saying the parts cost is out of warranty? I've never had a problem getting support from stern after the warranty period.

It technically does not have a warranty since I'm not the original purchaser (it was initially bought last year). If I open it and there's an issue, we'll see what happens at that point.

Depends on who you are. They count down the days when my warranties run out lol.

I already told you....I deal with the goddamn engineers so the people don't have to!!!! I've got people skills.....I'm good at dealing with people!!! What the hell is wrong with you people!!!!?? Hahahaha. Classic.

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Talking about warranty made me think of this odd question... Some of my inserts... the center ramp RGB arrow to be specific... has a lot of flecks "in" it. Looks like dust may have gotten under there when they clearcoated it. Is that normal for pinball machines? I figured it was but some of the issues brought here had me thinking otherwise and it's always annoyed me.

Or, you could end up like the majority of the purchasers and have no issues.

Either way, Stern is good at helping customers out.

thank you for your service, you have also helped me out with kiss issues and improvements. I cant believe stern banned you from their facebook site. I believe you are an asset for them and should applaud you!!

Pretty soon all the KISS owners will be banned from the Stern Facebook page.

I got banned myself too; so don't feel bad and I buy a ton of sterns

Not me.... I clearly remember my parents telling me back in the 70's "If you have nothing positive to post on FB, STFU".
I try and keep 'online drama' to a minimum....unless I am joking around and then it is not malicious and purely for laughs.

New code is coming.....I can feel it....or is it lumbago...

So asking when the new code is coming and if they are going to fix the left orbit issue on GOT is negative? That's what got me banned. You must be the most happiest person on the planet, I sure could use some of that koolaid you are drinking right now considering where I am at.

Steve Ritchie interview on Facebook, he said they were working on an orbit fix. And on their Facebook, they said KISS was being worked.

How can someone get banned for repeating what Stern puts on their Facebook page?

Waiting patiently

Yeah this update should be the best ever with how long it is taking the game needs a ton and was left abandoned for almost a year. So I'm expecting new modes new mballs the entire thing otherwise it will not be as epic as it should be. LONNIE this is your chance to step up to the plate and SHINE

Wow man. Enough with the personal attacks.

Talk about coming off as a spoiled baby.

Lonnie Ropp is an employee. He does what his bosses tell him to do. He's not sitting in his office plotting to piss off some self entitled Pinside jerks.

According to IPDB, Ropp has programmed 89 pinball titles. Whats your pinball legacy?

rd

I saw an interesting tidbit from an MGC video recently posted. Dwight Sullivan says "The KISS code's coming out soon...it is awesome...we've been waiting on the KISS license"

rd, usually you are pretty spot on. But in this case, the lead programmer deserves the flack, not the guy that spent the money to buy the product. It all got a lot worse with the teases, so he kind of has the right to beat this drum. I think the fix for all of it is... Good code.

Lonnie is a very nice guy if you ever got the pleasure to meet him; was very nice to me when we met the other year at expo a hell of a nice guy; I am sure he put his heart and soul into this update guys

I own 3 of the titles he was lead on. Transformers came out fine. Star Trek LE NIB, that even Steve Ritchie in an interview said was broken (this was after several updates) and Dwight fixed the code. Now look at the KISS code fiasco.

I've purchased several expensive LEs...2 of them experienced broken code...those 2 have 1 thing in common...

Glad I'm not allowed to have an opinion on the matter.

I wanna do a lil number for ya'll tonight!!! LOVE GUN!!

I love that!

Tend to disagree, as the guy is doing what he is told to do.

Rather than repeatedly personally insulting the guy, the poster would be better served picking up the phone and calling Dave Peterson, the guy who owns the company, and ask him about it. He's the guy calling the shots and paying the bills.

rd

https://soundcloud.com/christopher-armes/45-minutes-of-paul-stanley

while waiting for the code I just listen to that link above!!! PEOPLE!!! OOOOOOWWWW!!

You have stated how you feel very clearly here as documented above. Please let's not beat a dead horse here and let it be. I know we all get frustrated but we need to try and not harp on things and tirelessly ridicule those that help create the pins we love.

That would be a hilarious call if he didn't know his customers were irritated with the KISS code

Hi rd...totally agree with you that personal attacks aren't appropriate. People need to target their frustration at Stern. If a programmer isn't capable of keeping up with Stern schedules, they need to change the schedule or change the programmer. The notion that all programmers are interchangeable is ridiculous. I managed software engineers for 20 years and part of the "art of management" is estimating how long specific people will take to complete specific tasks. Stern just doesn't seem to care...

Just like KISS pinball, these snails eat all the stucco off of your house in Florida

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My normal line is that you're insulting snails that their as slow as ...
But, I don't have a horse in this race.

faz

Could today be the day?

Haha not getting my hopes up! But man I hope so.

Any day could be the day

How long does it take to program bugs out of the code?

Note: My ability to code consists of hitting the download button.

god that is horrifying

Hope it's today. It seemed like Paul wanted to come down and see us several days ago

Waiting patiently

I don't write pinball code, but I do write video recording/conferencing code. What is usually required/recommended with bug fixes is that you have to fun through ALL of the test procedures in order to verify the bug fixes did not destabilize/break anything else.
Bug fixes usually take less time than new code development, but still require time to get it working with confidence....

Played some KISS last night.....Simple, fast, fun.

Maybe the Orkin Man failed and they are waiting for Terminix to arrive.

This is the major challenge with bugs and bugfixing

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So do you owners want code with known bugs, quickly paced bugfix with many more bugs, or a fully tested version?

You mean Lyminix.

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I am so looking forward to this code release (whenever it comes).

KISS is one of those games where I dont care for the band or the music but it is something I grew up with so it just sticks in my head and the layout is pretty fun to shoot. The current code is lacking to me, but the rumored full rework has me really pumped for it to come!

I keep wondering if the rework will make this another TWD for me (a game I initially hated but now love due to the great code).

I would think they would want to extensive testing. You know people (on pinside) will certainly be bitching if there is one flaw found.

maybe so but they could appease everyone by releasing a changelog. this would stave off having to release the code and also help with sales.

I'm putting myself in Stern's shoes.

No one will be happy until the code is released.

Its 4/20, someone somewhere must be happy....LOL.