When all the issues are worked out. Seems to be getting closer to that point. I do beleive with all it has going on it will be a long journey during tournament play, with the good players. I have spent a lot of time on woz, granted the pitch of the game I have spent most of my time on was not steep enough and it played slow, I am not a supreme player but my ball times were loooooong. It was old old code as well but that doesn't change the shots. With a steeper pitch it would of shortened my ball times I'm sure but the good players at a steeper pitch I feel will be better then I was at a flatter pitch. I would play the first ball until I got a replay and would turn it over to my son to play out the game. I need to play one at a steeper pitch to see the differance. Has TZ or IJ ever been a tournament pin??