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When Will Stern Pinball Machines Be Online?


By HighProtein

7 months ago



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    “When Will Stern Pinball Machines Be Online?”

    • 2019 8 votes
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    • 2020 36 votes
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    • 2021 16 votes
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    • By 2030 21 votes
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    • Never... 62 votes
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    #76 7 months ago

    Just wait until the first time someone hacks into it and plays porn on the large LCD screens ;P It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when.

    Everything connected to the internet is NOT a must.

    #102 7 months ago

    I liken it to connected appliances. They will implement it at the lowest developed level. Certain things will partially work, and maybe a few patches, and that's as far as it will go. Even if I saw some amazing potential here, it would be a let down - much like smart tv's.

    Just wait until an auto update bricks your pinball machine as well.

    #106 7 months ago
    Quoted from CrazyLevi:

    I think we can all agree pinball machines are far too cheap. Your suggestions would bring pinball pricing more in line with what we should all be paying.

    I think it's a marketing issue...

    It should be:

    "WiFi - $65k (comes with free Prototype Twilight Zone).

    #118 7 months ago
    Quoted from soapblox:

    Can't wait for when you NEED an internet connection for your machine to run. You don't actually buy it anymore... you just have a temp license that you have to pay monthly to keep running

    People like to laugh...but..yea...look at other industries.

    #124 7 months ago
    Quoted from HighProtein:

    If you think online connectivity is basically pointless and a waste of money to develop please explain why.

    There's been a number of reasons explained. Just because you don't agree doesn't make them untrue. I would imagine there are a number of people who would both welcome it and scoff at it. The biggest issue I see is leaderboards are meaningless on it which is what many figure is the point to it.

    #131 7 months ago

    You guys are so short sighted. We need another alexa and item to watch netflix on!

    #136 7 months ago
    Quoted from LTG:

    And be able to keep up with Pinside on, while we are playing.
    LTG : )

    Ohh..live RSS feed (okay I'm old) on the display while playing! That I could get behind lol.

    #137 7 months ago
    Quoted from stantman:

    That's not relevant to the Rarehero quote I responded to. Anyway, the answer is "it's not". The difference is, I'm speaking for myself when I say I might enjoy a pinball experience designed for online play, whereas you are arrogantly trying to speak for everybody by saying nobody will enjoy it. Either way... it's no skin off of your back if it's developed and you don't buy it. You can continue to play offline games. Oh the horror.

    I always play with the glass off so I can grab the ball when I need to. Welcome to online play.

    #155 7 months ago
    Quoted from alveolus:

    Levi, I like you and tend to agree with you more often than not, but you definitely have some curmudgeonly tendencies.
    The only fact that matters to me is that unlike most of the naysayers posting here, I actually own a machine with basic online functionality and I find it cool and fun and see huge potential.
    For example, imagine how effortless it would be to run a best game format tournament on a bank of machines with connectivity. The machine ques you up and notifies you via your phone app. You go to the machine and verify your IFPA number, play your game and the machine sends your score to the tournament software. Completely automated!
    But I’m sure you will prefer you no. 2 pencil and graph paper.

    and then you cheat so you are high score? The whole reason this is..well dumb...is just that. It will be about as fun until someone decides to 'cheat' because you can't have a tournament of pinball machines on different locations with different settings. I know it sounds amazing in theory, it won't work that way.

    #156 7 months ago
    Quoted from solarvalue:

    Here's a very simple but functional head to head game which many people who have played it have said is fun:

    Blurb from the Multimorphic website:
    "Heads Up! is the first internet-connected game for the P3. Play against an opponent on another P3 in the same room or anywhere in the world! Heads Up! creates a shared playfield across two connected machines, presenting the exact same targets to both players. Shoot green gem shots, and you score points. Shoot red portal shots, and your ball goes to your opponent, allowing them to rack up more points. It’s simple in concept but layered in strategic complexity. As shots are made and missed, the gems and portal shots change state. Master the timing to maximize points!"
    https://www.multimorphic.com/store/p3-game-kits/heads-up/

    So as long as they are all digital, and right next to each other, sure. Go for it.

    I think most reservations are that someone like me, out in bublef*ck nowhere playing 'online' against someone else on a real actual analog(because that's what it ultimately is) pinball machine will not be that amazing experience you think it is. The game of 'pinball' would need to be reinvented, AND be all digital...as in a video game.

    You want something like this? Do it on a virtual cab which is digital and can show you what the other persons ball is doing in real time, otherwise all this talk about tournaments, and head to head play across country, and high scores is just fluff and meaningless, even if it sounds cool in theory.

    #158 7 months ago
    Quoted from drfrightner:

    I think you meant to say you make no sense. Pinball has been using video screens since the late 80's. Multiple games listed in Pinside top 100 have video game elements to them... games as recently as Houdini have video elements, as does Pirates where you can play liar's dice. We need to bring back some of those features because it adds to the game. You can call yourself a pinball purist that's fine but you're just one person.
    Pinball companies don't live or die based on people like you buying a game. They need customers well outside the realm of pinside, they need casual players to put coins in otherwise entertainment centers won't buy the games.
    Anything that improves the game is a bonus adding wifi to the games opens up the possibilities to what is possible. Your line of thinking is dead wrong, because that keeps pinball in the stone ages. With time everything gets old, which is why every few years the corvette gets a new design.
    Speaking of which now Corvette is on an all out change going mid-engine, wow over 50 years of Corvette and now there is finally mid-engine. I wonder why?
    Pinball is going to add WIFI and once they do they'll open themselves up to all sorts of possibilities, and fine new players, owners and fans.

    Honestly, even if it does, what will really happen is half baked code and unfinished 'features'

    #162 7 months ago

    now....add a vape to it or give weed as prizes instead of tickets and you might see the popularity skyrocket.

    #174 7 months ago
    Quoted from alveolus:

    I never said anything about different locations, just imagining how it could streamline our location tournaments. You people are trying too hard to be close-minded.

    You don't NEED wifi for local. I'm not trying to be close minded at all. WiFI and internet alludes to different locations. There are a number of ways already to do what you are suggesting without Wifi. However, like the video posted above, yes that is one possible thing that could be done - and far more practical than the same thing long distance.

    #178 7 months ago

    I really don't want to know how much more people will start charging for 'non wifi' pins. and I really don't want to know how much it will cost to air gap all my pins

    #184 7 months ago
    Quoted from Lamprey:

    I guess using Alexa or a Smartphone to turn the machines on/off could be better/easier than trying to reach under backbox for a switch... But, I'd think it'd be cheaper to move it back near the front so it's more easily accessible (again).

    or a clapper

    #187 7 months ago

    P3 is an interesting twist on pinball, and personally I think it's a novel idea that didn't go far enough. They need a P3v2 etc. However I agree the overhead just for what we are talking about here is immense. Again, I think even if wifi is implemented in Sterns(or normal pinball in general) it will be minimal, buggy, and lots of unfinished (but highly publicized and hyped pre-sale feature!!) and promised features that never actually happen. I mean, they barely get code done on the game itself when it comes out and they have even more work to do with LCD's.

    #226 7 months ago

    Hi this is Microsoft support. Your pinball machine has notified us of an issue.

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