Maybe because the recent lackluster “other” pins being released have made POTC a very desirable pin in comparison and now it’s back in demand? I only say this because there are very few listed and the ones that are go fast at $11-$20k

I’ll never buy Toy Story, but on the other hand would rather they do Toy Story first so they can have more time to perfect GNR

Yeah I’m having a hard time with how JJP is going to pull off GNR in 2020. The original was built during their heyday and really was epic during that time. Now 25 years later Guns has a rumored album but no new songs to speak of. So maybe the theme will be irrelevant but i can tell you no matter how good Toy Story will be, I’ve got zero interest in buying that theme. So really curious how they place the band in their current state into this 2020 version of GNR.

If it’s a bust, no biggie cuz the original is awesome. I’ll just HEP it

A successful tour does not equate to a good pin. A good pin equals a good pin.

Putting flowers and new movie on top of Ghostbusters doesn’t make it good.

Now if you mean people are going to buy the pin based on current interest in the bands live shows, that may be true and would be a success for JJP (and that’s good thing of course).

You could say Supreme is a successful pin because they sold out. But it straight up sucks, like Spider-Man HD

So again, hoping JJP pulls it off, if so I’ll be NIB’n one next to my DE GNR. But I’m having a tough time thinking what they could do with this band and music from 25 years ago in 2020

See now if it comes with the original AFD artwork, all the previous GNR albums, a new unreleased full album exclusive to only the pin, signatures from all band members past & present, A real guitar neck in the game, magnets that throw balls much crazier than the data east. An Axl that jumps out of the pin and starts a real riot, not only G & R Ramps, but GUNS N ROSES Ramps for every letter, real cocaine on the playfield, a full Slash Top hat Topper, all the rules from the DE GNR, more rules, modes, and wizards than POTC, real snakes in a snake pit, leather pants, a mini replica of The Rainbow Bar including the Lemmy statue, lifetime tickets to all GNR shows, and a private party and concert with the band every time you press start. Oh, and the extra ball button (even though i never use it)

Did I leave anything out?

I believe I covered those with “all the previous GNR albums” but I guess that wouldn’t include Ain’t Goin’ Down no More

So that one as well

Did you at least think my JJP GNR requirements for the pin were reasonable? Maybe the extra ball button was over the top?

If Stern was making GNR it would be DOA for me. So really glad its JJP

You don't. Just like we really don't know JJP is making it. So were all guessing.

Eric from JJP will be at TPF coincidentally though, but everything else is fake news until it isnt

I would never play a JJP again if that were true

I would have canceled my order after they removed the 3 spinning discs. To this day, you look at the LCD and see the 2 spinning discs in the graphics which is lame AF. POTC didn't become great until everything else Stern was turning out fell way short and it became unavailable as mentioned. So POTC is good, but seriously a pin you get bored of regardless how many modes it has. I've seen it in an arcade with people playing other pins instead.

So hopefully they figure that out and go beyond for GNR. If they make a typical JJP pin and slap an LCD with GNR videos on it, that's DOA for me. They are really gonna have a tight rope to walk. But rather JJP than Stern any day. Time will tell

I would rather JJP take their time and make a pin good out the gate. Otherwise buy a Stern, they constantly release unfinished lack luster game fast

Yeah I got to play one, it was the centerpiece of the game (literally) and did have a magnetic effect no other pin had. So to say the game didn’t lose anything when it got thrown out is bogus. I get why they had to do it though.

Maybe something better makes its way into GNR

Figuring out how to get these “Risky Items” into the games is going to be the key. With all the people complaining about minor issues these days I hope they keep pushing the envelope. This is why Stern games are so bland to me because they hardly do anything risky. Everytime I play one of those then play Indiana Jones Williams or a TOTAN you can clearly see the difference and why the 90s pins hold up 25 years later. They took risks because the future of pinball was near and they pulled out all the stops.

I’d rather have an over the top game with mechanics, etc with the possible risks vs a wide open simple playfield with the typical LCD screen we’ve been seeing.

I just liked when Stern Jurassic Park with a dinosaur in the upper left corner picks up a ball better when it was called Data East Jurassic Park. But at least they added a poorly spinning truck AKA TOTAN Lamp. Very original

If Stern is so great why are you lurking around JJP threads? Still waiting for completed code?

With JJP moving to Chicago it might be Stern GNR at this rate. Guess we’ll find out in a couple weeks

I'm losing all interest in this Pin. I have a Data East GNR with PinSound & all tracks, all albums, so I'm set as far as I'm concerned. I'm curious but not holding my breath for JJP to pull this off, they got a high bar

It’s set in stone just like every pin rumor and the 15 Commandments

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I finally know the answer to this thread...

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I actually do. He’s a nice guy.