100% agree!! Why do that when you have so much .Wouldve made a nice gift for a unfortunate fan at the least.

Nothing and no one could have saved that piece of crap. JJP will never do a Blues Brothers pin. Way to adult. They are a very family friendly company. I would like to see a Looney Tunes pin from them. The classic stuff with Mel Blanc, because without Mel's voice it ain't looney Tunes. Also a sponge bob pin would be great.

Good point, Blues Brothers probably is a tad too adult I suppose, Shame would be freaking awesome, maybe Bugsy Malone for a more family friendly musical although probably wouldn’t sell.
Looney Tunes would be pretty cool and Muppets would be awesome too.

I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere but did anyone else catch the latest Buffalo Pinball stream with Kevin and Eric? The giveaway was that you would get your initials entered as one of the default high scores in an upcoming game. While describing the giveaway, Eric mentioned that you will get your high score initials AND an “up to 11” initial - definitely a mode in the game. It can be heard around the 9:00 mark of the stream: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/634910173?t=521s

That is clearly a mode in the game should put to rest the GNR or Toy Story question. God I’m desperate for GNR info at this point!

Around 10k for the pic..

Yeah don't rely on Stern to innovate. Nothing on tmnt is innovative

Game can be cool to play, car lock is nice and I love ramp diverter.
But the playfield design looks like some previous game (Tron, funhouse..). I already played them and I don’t want a game that looks/plays like others.
I only have games way different from each others.

I miss a JJP game in my line-up. GNR or Toy story is fine for the theme, now I want creativity, 3 ramps at least, ramp diverters, a great toy or two (reliable ones please), drop targets ( not this awful large standup target), an upper playfield, and great lcd animations. That’s all!

Not saying I know anything more than anyone else about the next release, but “up to 11” would clearly be a Spinal Tap reference.... which would make an awesome pin.

That’s what I was thinking at first but with all the GNR talk and Slash’s confirmation a while ago, I’m guessing it is just a nod to the movie. It would be great to have a few more references or Spinal Tap easter eggs throughout the game.

My concern with any JJP pin is how they work their LE offering. WOZ for example. On launch they offer standard and Emerald City. So everyone who paid extra for the LE and though the had something special didn’t, because shorty after they offered a 75th anniversary edition. So then everyone who paid even more for a 75th anniversary edition and thought they had something special didn’t. Because then they release a Yellow brick road edition for even more $. Now, the people who purchased an Emerald City edition can’t sell their game for anywhere close to what they paid for it because JJP devalued the ECLE with the additional LEs released. I would love to buy a GNR if they actually release the title, but I will wait until I get a better understanding of how JJP will handle their LEs. Think about it....they could come out with a standard edition, a Sweet Child o Mine edition, Welcome to the Jungle edition, Paradise City edition, Appetite of Destruction edition, Use Your Illusion edition, November Rain edition, Slash signature edition, and on and on. Just my two cents from someone who bought JJP titles in the past.

I think you guys are reading too much into the "up to 11" characters comment. In Jersey Jack pinball machines you can set it for a 3 character inital high scores, or 11 characters.

What is the difference between each LE (75th, ecle and yellow) except armor?

The YBR edition has the ugliest color and they took out the monkey and charged more for it.

I see Emerald City go for $7000 and more all the time,ECLE only cost $6500 new!

You guys are hilarious. The "up to 11 characters" has been a thing since I had a talk with Ted back in the early Wizard of Oz days. I was explaining to him that I had to enter CHRSTOPHER on my stern games because of the 10 letter limitations and was wondering if he could make it 11 letters for me.

Boom, Bob's your uncle and now we have 11 characters to enter. Some others might tell you that JERSEY JACK with the space in between is also 11 characters, but that is purely coincidental.

Happy "looking for clues" day.

Interesting historical fact of the day. Twenty years from now people will ask, why 11 for JJP? Now we know.

They should abandon the SE LE CE hierarchy and just release a cool single version game. If it goes off then CE. Time to abandon the convention hierarchy that adds cost and confuses the market.

Well, that makes sense.... forget all that other shit I said.

Don’t know where you bought one for $6500. I bought mine direct from JJP When it was launched in 2013 for $7800 plus shipping.

Don’t know where you bought one for $6500. I bought mine direct from JJP When it was launched in 2013 for $7800 plus shipping.

Now that's innovation I can stand behind!

I would agree

I bought my NIB WOZECLE for $6500.

Wow it seems so painfully obvious now he was talking the number of characters for the initials! In my defense, I said I was desperate for GNR info! Either way, JJP should see this as a positive sign from me. Indifference and silence is FAR FAR worse than loyal fans hunting for any little detail they can find.

How about RAZA? Oh wait... sorry, wrong thread

That wouldn’t make sense for the manufacturers.

If I had my wish I would like to order just the features I want, like only the wonkavator, but everything else standard or only the ramp lights on di or only the extra drop targets on Deadpool. Then the price would be somewhere between standard and LE.

Where did you get it? That’s where I want to buy all of my pins from now on.

$6500 was the original price for WOZ

What year did you buy Kerry?

I can confirm all this happened, but believe me, Spinal Tap came up as we were discussing it!

Damn it,when is the big announcement?

$6500 was the preorder price for wozec

Correct; $6500 was preorder price of WOZCE back in 2013(?). I got #1000 of 1000

and if you paid in full, you got free shipping. If you were able to sit back and wait patiently for three years, it really paid off. Congrats, I am in that club too.

And it was not as good as it could of been.

Yeah, it's got a spinning disc, choice of multiple characters, layout that resembles a particular JJP game, upper left flipper, "Van" ball-lock, a button bashing pizza eating... I don't need to buy Turtles, I've basically already got a better version of that game.

I hear you with that.I bought WOZRR in Feb n seemed to have done pretty well with price .Definitly purchased right one as far as resale goes price been going up ever since.I don’t think I’ll ever buy NIB unless I was getting a CE even with that it’s hit or miss .

As your new to Pinball ALL Pinball is Miss Miss. if your buying assuming this is an investment you already lost. If you are buying to simply enjoy a wonderful hobby keep going forward.

I hope JJP announces soon.

Could really use a moral boost and something to look forward to.

LTG : )

Why don’t you just pencil me in for one of those Spinal Tap CEs, please.... whenever you guys get around to it - I’m patient.

100% in it for the entertainment .I knew what I was getting into I’m looking forward to getting some time and dive in .Still for me a far better investment than most other forms of entertainment like golf nothing there at the end of the road .Im happy with this It’s the most fun I’ve had in a long ass time ! Thanks yelobird

What he said! Too many people waiting for their next pin. I am in that camp. Waiting to see what JJP and CGC have to offer/compete with Stern TMNT.

Don't tell us. Call up Jack and report back when he tells you what it is.

I also paid $6500 for my WOZEC. I still play the game and love it. The RGB’s are amazing! The butter cabinet was sweet!!! Smooth!!!

I never ask. And I'm usually the last to find out. That way if it leaks, it wasn't me. I didn't know.

I found out about Willy Wonka here on Pinside before the MGC reveal last year.

LTG : )

Let me know when you want to see the chciago factory. "I know a guy...,"

Will do. I don't know if they'll let me in.

LTG : )

I am looking forward to seeing the GNR pin. Saw Slash a few years back and it was a really good show. Saw him on both of the last tours.

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I heard Godzilla !!!