2020 possibly never expo with short wait time big win

Well the next machine is going to be Guns and Roses, according to reliable sources. Announcement of 2 games and release of 2 games is expected in 2020. So, I would expect around Midwest Gaming Classic you should see a game available for shipping. Then a second game around Expo 2020. Expo 2019 will unveil WWCF CE only, and maybe give the name of the next release. Maybe not.

I can’t afford it. Oh right, I can afford it, but I won’t buy it.

I loved WOZ (when it worked). I was a huge supporter of JJP, and I like Jack. But it seems he is building games I don’t find to be fun now. What he is building is games that are “ok”. And sorry, but they are priced pretty high. So I’m just standing on the sidelines.

If they were smart, they'd start off talking about the companies history including the difficulties/challenges they've faced especially the playfield issues (tell the public what the actual problem was) and how they've since fixed the issue and how they plan on supporting those NIB buyers who (might) be affected. I feel like their customer service/reputation has taken a real beating. They need to build up consumer confidence and THEN announce the next title.
I don't personally know too many people who are pro JJP anymore. In fact they've sworn off buying NIB across the board not to mention the couple OPs I know have talked about the ridiculous amount of service calls they've had to deal with and are done buying this brand because of it.

They should publish/hire that homebrew Nightmare Before Christmas guy from London Canada (and tweak it, of course) and put the others on the backburner until mid-2020.

IMO they need some major mojo at the moment and that could put them back on track. Licencing would probably be about $500 a machine and I'm not sure they have the margins to absorb that but they could increase prices for that IP -- the home user market would go nuts for it.

I don't think they will do it, though...it makes too much sense...and they are currently making a big push to appeal to the bar/arcade market as per Stern. Bad idea IMO, I think they should stick to the home market which is the market they seemed to focus on until lately.

I don't see a new Guns and Rose's pin being a big hit, not at $7500 - $12.5k. I still find it odd that JJP would choose that theme. Toy Story has huge potential. A Back to the Future trilogy pin by JJP could also be a huge hit as the theme has mass appeal.

I think they should announce parting ways with mirpoo, so people can start buying their beautiful machines again.

I had assumed JJP chose this theme because the GnR guitarist Slash was involved with JJP. I‘m not attracted that much to rock group pins, but if it‘s gotta be, then I think it‘s cool when the artist is strongly involved like with Alice Cooper. I have never been much of a GnR fan, but I figure they are as good or as bad as any other rock group for a pin.

I think it will be GnR and i can say this will be a best seller!

Gnr is my favorite band, and I'm excited to see how jjp does a band game. That said, jjp to me is all about family favorite storytelling games. I already own acdc, and Metallica so I'm probably not getting another band title. I still love jjp though, and once you story is out, I'll probably be a buyer again. I would love to see them do more classic stories, but properly coded with full assets.

I thought JJP was announcing 2 games this year ? Not including YBR

JJP people at Expo said that JJP is going to fulfill all of the orders for Wonka first. One person said that there was about a thousand Wonka pins to make (including the CEs) at that point in time. One person on the new pin team said that the new one wouldn't be revealed until after the first of the year, another said that if continued Wonka orders go well, and they don't reveal until they are ready to ship, it might be closer to the MGC show. (Their track record is about a month or so for the changeover on the line to a new pin). It doesn't sound like there is a definitive point in time that is planned and it's more like they will switch over once the Wonka demand dies down and they have some number of them unsold in stock. I'm sure that it would be hard to predict when that is.

Seems to me they have a long ways to go before they make two games a year

I guess it depends on how you look at it. They made Pirates and Wonka within 12 months (but not the same calendar year). The penalty with that is that some people didn't get a JJPOTC that wanted one and waited too long. While the production line is making money with Wonka, they will keep it going instead of cutting that one short too.

I'm never going to see Toy Story at this rate

I thought Jack said 2 games this year ?
Not including YBR

And Deeproot said they would have four to five complete games last year?

Who cares. I for one will never buy another JJP. Chipping playfields in a $9500 pin and an Oompa Loompa that’s too busy doing cartwheels to solve the issue have turned me off to JJP. I’m sure Jack doesn’t care. I’ve just bought all his machines NIB. Who cares what I think! Fuck the consumer!

Your kidding right? Look at the announce and release date for POTC they had all sorts of issues. They stopped running all three models of the game with only a total of 1000 games made

Think JJP is the best company to make an Harry Potter pin.

I think music and pinball just work....If they build a kick ass GNR pin my bet it would sell really well. If you combine their typical quality, and their commitment to killer code than GNR could be off the charts. Just look how well Metallica, and ACDC sold....Both are incredible games (Met being the better choice)

If any other company got Harry Potter I would be seriously disappointed, and same with toy story. Can't wait for toy story. Jjp has a certain style about them that matches these themes well. I'm curious to see what they do with GNR, a game that doesn't quite match their wheel house.
As far as reveal time and two games a year, I'd rather they take time and release only when ready. I bet the playfield issues slowed Wonka production some, and if Wonka really sold great, that backs things up as well. I don't think anyone should be irritated if we don't get GNR this year yet.

I agree it doesn't really match JJP's type of game. Historically they have been very "family friendly" games. Toy Story and HP would be right in their wheel house. Both would probably be really big sellers.

I can wait, and time is good to put enougt money on side
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I love JJP's pins but I actively dislike GnR. This seems like the kind of theme that Stern could crap out as an afterthought mid-year, but to consider that it will likely be the only JJP release for all of 2020 is a bit disheartening.

Friggen hilarious! Oompa Loompa... I’ll never see Jack the same way again.

Sorry not cool or needed. You don't have to like the company or product but that is plain disrespectful.

I’m pretty sure next year we will see GNR and Toy Story.What I don’t know is what comes after?
All of the previously leaked game titles will be done

No interest in GNR whatsoever. My concern is that at this pace Toy Story won't likely be released until 2021

GNR is one of my favorite bands, but already owning acdc and Metallica, I don't have room for another music pin. I'm excited to see it, but probably not one I'll buy unless it blows away one of my other two music pins, forcing me to sell one of my favorite games.

Whatever they make I'll be waiting for a nice HUO one I'll never buy another NIB game from JJP or Stern....waayyyyyy too much risk, and their customer support has gone down hill the last few years.

I will never understand why some people think to bash one company builds up another ridiculous

Says the Frenchmen

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haha...Thot

Not bashing just stating a fact!

Im so fakking in on Guns and Roses......hoping they announce in Dec

You must have have misunderstood. They meant 4 or 5 total

GnR, Toy Story, Harry Potter...

not much in there that I would even be interested enough to play let alone buy. Though Toy Story seems like a perfect fit for JJP...

GnR wouldn't be Appetite For Destruction Pinball. It would be GnR Pinball.
And they only have one good LP and 1/2 a good EP. That's it.
How do you make a modern pinball out of that?

Hell Motley Cure would be a better machine. And I'm not pulling for one.
Though.

A Kickstart My Heart Mode would rock.

GNR ? I think Toy Story has more to offer
In a pinball especially a JJP platform
Artwork is easy , animation is there

Harry Potter ? Oh please no

Not ruling out GNR but it’s like dating an old girlfriend, good for a night

Sounds like a killer production lineup to me!

Jersey Jack needs a Music pin bad. GNR would be awesome FUCK Toy Story do children buy these machines?

I’d love to see GNR next !

No, grown men buy these toys and lock them in their mother's basements away from any children.

Lol I thought you were going to say Grown men buy these toys to attract children.

So fucking embarrassing that the mods don’t delete dumbass racist comments like Thot’s from this site as soon as they are posted. What’s the point in even having moderators if they don’t moderate content?

Meh.

Yes it is a fact but using Sterns chipping in a comment does not lessen JJP chipping issues same goes for Deeproot vs JJP