I’m looking down the top 100 and I can only laugh. We have too many non-objective, whiny members creating rankings. Just a couple that caught my eye. I see Oktoberfest at 82 and Pinbot at 81. Then I look up the new JJP game, Toy Story 4 and find it at 150.

Example: Artwork on Pinbot is 8.066 and Artwork on Toy Story 4 is 8.329.
Here’s one that really has to make you laugh. Music on Pinbot is 7.476 and Toy Story 4 7.506. That’s hilarious
Several of the overall ratings on TS4 are in the 5.x level. Please.

I pick on TS4 because I know what’s going on behind they ratings. Members intentionally trash the ratings because they are mad the game was based on the 4th movie. They are upset the game costs $12k.

Suggestions:
People may say the games of today have a different standard, then 1) throw out all rankings that are over a few years old. 2) Force people to review each ranking after a couple years, basically tell them the rankings will be dropped if not updated.

Members intentionally rate a game low because they are petty. 1) throw out rankings a certain deviation below the standard. 2) Ask the member how many games they’ve played, reduce impact of rating for low plays and increase for higher number of plays. 3) Ask member how in depth they know the rule set, decrease or increase rating impact appropriately.

Let’s have a truly useful rating system.

Sounds like many people have given up on the system. Too bad. Just keep in mind this is seen by those just getting into pinball as well. I certainly can judge a good game on my own. I would just hope our community would be much less biased.

Too bad we can’t do better as veteran pinball players.

I used to host IFPA tournaments. Stopped doing a couple years ago. We prefer to have fun instead of stress over pinball. To each his own.

That would be better than we have. But I think some statistical math added to the current system could work, as I mentioned before. Throw out ratings way out of the bell curve.

The system has that in that a game requires a certain number of ratings to be in the top 100. Maybe the number could be tweaked. My only concern there is that I do like to look at ratings before I buy a game. It’s one of the criteria I use to put a game in my business. Others, like me I’m sure, would like some early feedback as waiting too long would result in the game being out of stock with distributors.

Absolutely! Since I have 35 pins in the business, that’s kinda necessary. Lol

My revenue model is a little different, but your point is absolutely true. Again, pinside is just one criteria I use. Everyone has different likes and dislikes, but the average rating on pinside would ideally match my customers’ likes as well.

ReadyPO Agreed. I also watch some streams. But even at that, I saw some streamers go out and trash games before they even played it. Don’t use their opinion anymore.

What else do you use to evaluate a game before purchase. Always looking for other insights.