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When did pinball get so crazy?


By FightNightFZ

4 years ago



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    #1 4 years ago

    Hey Guys!

    Throughout the years I have taken part in many hobbies, which lead to many forums. Though each hobby has had it's share of craziness, I've never see it as bad as here. People are bashing, using personal attacks, and generally being untrustworthy at a disturbing rate.

    This is suppose to be a fun hobby, a getaway from the rollercoaster of life for many of us.

    Let me tell you what my breaking point was:

    Ghostbusters has many of us excited. Along with this, there are many facts and secrets out there that many people are dying to get. Yes, I was privy to some of this information, mainly from what has been passed around from other sites, people, etc. Nothing to die for, no real "confirmed" facts.

    Well, over the past few weeks, because of this, I've had to pick up some pieces of my personal life. My email was hacked, which led to other linked emails hacked (even my work email, which I work with confidential information myself). With the help of external resources, it was linked to pinball, and most realistically someone from here.

    Yes, I take full blame for whatever I keep in my emails, for which I will never make that mistake again. The thing is, when this happens, it's not only me that is affected, it's those that trusted me, and parties that did nothing wrong.

    We need to get to a place where this gets back to being fun and supportive, like the feelings we have when friends are over having some beers (or soda if you don't drink), enjoying what we love.

    Now I have to fend for my job while knowing I might have ruined someone else's. If the person that did it is reading this, was it really worth it for whatever you got out of the deal?

    #2 4 years ago

    I had the same thing a few years ago when some pindicks from RGP tried to get me fired from work.

    I simply changed my name and email, and only post from a virtual IP address server.

    I got rid of Paypal and anything else linked to my old accounts.

    #3 4 years ago

    Yikes - that's really quite too far indeed. Whatever went down, I hope you get the mess put back together soon and remain unscathed. Really hate to hear this - good luck!

    #4 4 years ago

    Sorry you went through that. I've already had to close down all accounts (thanks for reminding me about PayPal) and start pouring through every email i have across 3 hacked addresses. It was one thing when it was dealing with just me and my job, but now its affecting someone else's, which is where enough is enough. No pinball machine is that important.

    #5 4 years ago

    Had the same thing happen to me and it was someone on this site . I really dont do much with my email or anything electronically but non the less it was done.

    #6 4 years ago

    Someone on pinside tried to rally his friends on 8chan to "dig dirt on me" and "make me pay" for destroying pinball via feminism, somehow.

    I am sorry you got hacked FlightNightFZ, and I am sorry you had to hide more, Vid.
    I can't believe this shit is not uncommon on a pinball forum...
    Uggh, and bigd1979

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    #7 4 years ago
    Quoted from cait001:

    I am sorry you got hacked FlightNightFZ, and I am sorry you had to hide more, Vid.
    I can't believe this shit is not uncommon on a pinball forum...

    It's common because pinheads are big babies.

    Geeky boys who grew up with their toys (and a few girls).

    My adventure started when I pounded a guy who followed me outside at Expo. He was a dozen years younger but had clearly never been in a real scrap with someone his own size. I love to brawl, but I'll be the first to admit, it's stupid to fight over pinball.

    #8 4 years ago

    Glad I have no desire to own Ghostbusters. So your secrets are safe with me.

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    #10 4 years ago

    I don't think Pinball is that crazy, Pinside might be, but Pinside isn't Pinball.

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    #11 4 years ago
    Quoted from vid1900:

    My adventure started when I pounded a guy who followed me outside at Expo.

    There must have been a better way to have worded that adventure.

    #12 4 years ago
    Quoted from FightNightFZ:

    Hey Guys!
    Throughout the years I have taken part in many hobbies, which lead to many forums. Though each hobby has had it's share of craziness, I've never see it as bad as here. People are bashing, using personal attacks, and generally being untrustworthy at a disturbing rate.
    This is suppose to be a fun hobby, a getaway from the rollercoaster of life for many of us.
    Let me tell you what my breaking point was:
    Ghostbusters has many of us excited. Along with this, there are many facts and secrets out there that many people are dying to get. Yes, I was privy to some of this information, mainly from what has been passed around from other sites, people, etc. Nothing to die for, no real "confirmed" facts.
    Well, over the past few weeks, because of this, I've had to pick up some pieces of my personal life. My email was hacked, which led to other linked emails hacked (even my work email, which I work with confidential information myself). With the help of external resources, it was linked to pinball, and most realistically someone from here.
    Yes, I take full blame for whatever I keep in my emails, for which I will never make that mistake again. The thing is, when this happens, it's not only me that is affected, it's those that trusted me, and parties that did nothing wrong.
    We need to get to a place where this gets back to being fun and supportive, like the feelings we have when friends are over having some beers (or soda if you don't drink), enjoying what we love.
    Now I have to fend for my job while knowing I might have ruined someone else's. If the person that did it is reading this, was it really worth it for whatever you got out of the deal?

    Wow. Sorry to hear. I know GB is a dream theme for many, but this is slightly over the top. There might also be people interested in finding out how you got your info.

    #13 4 years ago
    Quoted from ashburton:

    There must have been a better way to have worded that adventure.

    No, he meant sexually

    #14 4 years ago

    When did pinball get so crazy? Hmmm....

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    #15 4 years ago

    Pinball should be your hobby, not your whole life....... Too many "Pinheads" are taking pinball far too seriously. Wasn't this supposed to be "fun"?

    #16 4 years ago

    im guilty of being crazy at times. things got kind of scrappy with nvram.... then again money was on the table, that can incite things a bit.

    So how did a pinhead hack your email? trick you into going to a site that installs a key logger?

    #17 4 years ago

    Wow. I thought this was another thread complaining about high prices, preordering, price police, or some bum deal but wow. That said, I have seen some interesting people in arcades/expo.

    #18 4 years ago
    Quoted from TheLaw:

    I don't think Pinball is that crazy, Pinside might be, but Pinside isn't Pinball.

    And I'd add that 1% of Pinsiders don't represent Pinside.

    #19 4 years ago

    It all started with Ballyhoo...

    #20 4 years ago
    Quoted from jawjaw:

    That said, I have seen some interesting people in arcades/expo.

    Special When Lit could be a series with a new cast of characters every week.

    #21 4 years ago
    Quoted from barakandl:

    So how did a pinhead hack your email? trick you into going to a site that installs a key logger?

    I'm curious about this as well, not to place blame on you, etc. but more of a "could it happen to me?" question. What e-mail service is it, what security methods did / do you use (2 factor, etc.), and how did you discover you had been hacked?

    It's really sad that someone would take it to that level over anything much less information about a soon to be released pinball machine!

    #22 4 years ago

    Shame to hear! That is why sites have to be careful selecting it's mods as well. Not saying your issue, or other issues I heard about, are "mod connected" here. Only saying that other sites I have visited ended up busting some " insiders".

    Nuff said. GL getting it straight. Been there, done that.

    #23 4 years ago

    There are huge douchebags in this hobby, but fortunately they are far outnumbered by the excellent people that will go out their way to help. Amazing that someone would stoop to what they did, I've had bad experiences in the past and it leaves a rotten taste.

    #24 4 years ago
    Quoted from cait001:

    Someone on pinside tried to rally his friends on 8chan to "dig dirt on me" and "make me pay" for destroying pinball via feminism, somehow.
    I am sorry you got hacked FlightNightFZ, and I am sorry you had to hide more, Vid.
    I can't believe this shit is not uncommon on a pinball forum...
    Uggh, and bigd1979

    It's just the internet 1%'er effect. Basically where the internet acts as a huge magnifying glass to make a tiny minority of kooks seem like a majority. Every forum has it unfortunately. Here on Pinside I do notice there are some that seem to oddly hate everything about pinball. They hate that new pinbal machines are being made, they hate that pinball companies are trying to make a profit, they hate that more people are buying machines, they hate that a more varied audience are playing, they hate tech advancements, etc. I try to cut through all that cruft because behind that internet magnified 1% there's actually quite a few cool people here, and I've learned a bunch just from reading and posting on this forum.

    #25 4 years ago

    And yet no one has been able to find Frank Fuhrter...

    #26 4 years ago

    I would also like to know how they did it if you know?

    #27 4 years ago
    Quoted from ashburton:

    There must have been a better way to have worded that adventure.

    I was that guy and my ass loved every minute of it

    #30 4 years ago
    Quoted from Barron:

    I know the whole Todd Nathan thing, but I don't think that's correct.

    it might be. Frank left RGP for a while after that post.

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    #31 4 years ago
    Quoted from vid1900:

    My adventure started when I pounded a guy who followed me outside at Expo. He was a dozen years younger but had clearly never been in a real scrap with someone his own size. I love to brawl, but I'll be the first to admit, it's stupid to fight over pinball.

    Anxiously awaiting VID's Guide to brawling at Expo

    #32 4 years ago

    Apparently Mr. Robot is a Pinhead...

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    #33 4 years ago

    That sounds like a lot of work and effort to get some unfinished sketches and a 3D CAD drawing. Especially when all that stuff is getting passed around like coke at an 80s Hollywood party. Just start a "hey, someone PM me the sekrit stuff plz" thread and you'll get it with way less trouble and heartache.

    #34 4 years ago
    Quoted from ashburton:

    There must have been a better way to have worded that adventure.

    Interesting how language changes over generations.

    #35 4 years ago
    Quoted from MrWizzo:

    Interesting how language changes over generations.

    Indeed.

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    #36 4 years ago

    At least the Gays were swinging back in the 90s...

    #37 4 years ago
    Quoted from FightNightFZ:

    This is suppose to be a fun hobby, a getaway from the rollercoaster of life for many of us.

    Quoted from BrianZ:

    Too many "Pinheads" are taking pinball far too seriously.

    I've been in this habit for 20 years now. Damn, time flies.

    Anyway, there are people in this hobby that have only pinball in their life and are quite miserable as a result. As the hobby grows, the probability of people joining pinball discussions on the internet that are 5 beers short of a 6 pack is almost certainly going to be = 1.0.

    I've had my run ins with pinball psychopaths ... fortunately, nothing like what you described ever happened to me ... yet .

    There was a time at an auction in Columbus where a certain "celebrity" in the pinball community was beating a machine he was selling with a hammer in an attempt to repair it. After it seemed like he was back to normal, I stopped over to say "hi" and he started to scream at me and my wife. I started to crack up laughing ... this only enraged him more. I continued to laugh ... his cast of characters started to walk over. I explained in blunt terms that the screaming pile of filth was clearly a psychopath and we left it at that. I later learned that it was quite common for this said individual to blow his lid for no normal reason.

    I had a later run in with the same psychopath at an auction elsewhere ... he was bidding on everything (these were mainly broken down pins and vids) ... a friend and I simply bid prices higher and he was clearly getting angry as nobody there aside from him was interested in the mostly junk games (and this is coming from a cheapskate that "loves" a good project machine ). I think our finest hour was risking a $600 bid on a complete basketcase Ms. Pac Man in a mangled cabinet. He "motherf'ed" us when he got it for $625. That's how vindictive this lame, sad individual gets.

    Bottom line is that you'll run into these idiots. Just look on the bright side ... your email account is now secure and you know who to ignore on this site. Moreover, I'm sure people will know who the person was ... that'll make things problematic for that person in the future. Just laugh knowing that the person that did that to you doesn't have much of anything else in life to look forward to.

    #38 4 years ago

    Look, I'm going to close this down, as my whole point is we all need to be more positive. I don't want this to get negative, I can move on too. Pinball is exciting, we all want to see the next thing, we need to be respectful on how we handle things and to each other.

    I know jack s*it about hacking, so how they got in, I don't know. I use hotmail, no double verification or anything. How I know its pinball related? Upon recovery of my account (Thank you Outlook team for being super-helpful), my trashed emails were also recovered which showed what activity happened. Super evident it was pinball. Really, thank gosh because I keep folders with other important stuff (which they still probably read). PW was the same on my work email, so they got in there too.

    My work is super tech savvy, that paired with what the Outlook team shared, I have an IP address and some other things to go off of. I'm almost sure I know who it is and it spurned from a simple no.

    Just everyone be careful, be friendly with each other, love pinball passionately, don't be a jerk. Let's all enjoy this together.

    #39 4 years ago
    Quoted from o-din:

    Indeed.

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    I remember playing Gay90s in a luncheonette on my paper route
    In the early 70s.

    #40 4 years ago
    Quoted from boscokid:

    Anxiously awaiting VID's Guide to brawling at Expo

    "Leveling the playfield"

    #41 4 years ago
    Quoted from FightNightFZ:

    Look, I'm going to close this down, as my whole point is we all need to be more positive. I don't want this to get negative, I can move on too. Pinball is exciting, we all want to see the next thing, we need to be respectful on how we handle things and to each other.
    I know jack s*it about hacking, so how they got in, I don't know. I use hotmail, no double verification or anything. How I know its pinball related? Upon recovery of my account (Thank you Outlook team for being super-helpful), my trashed emails were also recovered which showed what activity happened. Super evident it was pinball. Really, thank gosh because I keep folders with other important stuff (which they still probably read). PW was the same on my work email, so they got in there too.
    My work is super tech savvy, that paired with what the Outlook team shared, I have an IP address and some other things to go off of. I'm almost sure I know who it is and it spurned from a simple no.
    Just everyone be careful, be friendly with each other, love pinball passionately, don't be a jerk. Let's all enjoy this together.

    Well said! It is a forum and pinball is filled with people from all parts of life with freedom of speech. Remember to keep your sense of humour and share if you find out who it is!

    #42 4 years ago

    In before the pounding

    #43 4 years ago
    Quoted from FightNightFZ:

    I have an IP address and some other things to go off of. I'm almost sure I know who it is and it spurned from a simple no.

    Please forward that IP address to Robin, he will know if it links to a Pinside user and they can be perma-banned. And hopefully publicly outed.

    rd

    #44 4 years ago

    Another sad side of impolite individuals is the tendency to drive good people from the newsgroups . They get frustrated and leave rather than deal with various attacks . How often do you see posts from game designers anymore ? I mostly lurk rather than post . When I post I prefer to use a positive perspective . Hopefully with something worthwhile to contribute . As always enjoy the day ! Shane

    #45 4 years ago
    Quoted from bepositive:

    Another sad side of impolite individuals is the tendency to drive good people from the newsgroups . They get frustrated and leave rather than deal with various attacks . How often do you see posts from game designers anymore ? I mostly lurk rather than post . When I post I prefer to use a positive perspective . Hopefully with something worthwhile to contribute . As always enjoy the day ! Shane

    Well said sir.

    #46 4 years ago
    Quoted from rotordave:

    Please forward that IP address to Robin, he will know if it links to a Pinside user and they can be perma-banned. And hopefully publicly outed.
    rd

    Couldn't resist the meme. I know this is serious and I hope the person gets caught. In some US States it is actually a felony under Telecommunications. Even if someone randomly tries a password and successfully cracks it, it is Actionable.

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    #47 4 years ago

    123456, qwerty, and password are not good passwords =D

    I remember being a teen back in the good ole days of internet, 90s, i would guess porn site passwords by trying stupid common u/p combinations.

    I use random strings of numbers and letters that get changed every 6 months for important stuff. memorizing them is the hard part

    #48 4 years ago
    Quoted from barakandl:

    123456, qwerty, and password are not good passwords =D

    Thanks for that. I'm changing my passwords right now.

    Two of the most popular PINs used for casino slot clubs are 1234 and 9876. Not that I know anything about this.

    #49 4 years ago
    Quoted from labnip:

    In before the pounding

    Why, is Vid coming around?

    rd

    #50 4 years ago

    Really the most important thing is that you have a super strong password for your email that you don't use anywhere else. For the average person, access to their email account is access to their entire online world. Almost every website/service will send password resets there, but a hacker won't even typically need to do that because the average person uses the same password almost everywhere.

    Two things regular people don't do but absolutely should:

    Strong unique passwords for every login (or at least your email and cloud data services).

    Regularly back up your computer(s) to a local HDD and either an off-site HDD or a cloud backup service (or both!)

    There are way too many stories of people having computers stolen and losing everything. Or their email is hacked and they lose accounts/credit cards/personal data or — worse — their identity is stolen.

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