I agree with bigd1979's price for a nice one out here in the West. New ramps, mountains and clear coated playfield... $5500+ although LEDs don't add or detract on the price for me. Seems pins are cheaper East of the Mississippi. Maybe its a supply and demand thing... But my thoughts are biased, Its a great game and a keeper for me. I sold my TZ before my WH2O because with 15000+ TZ made, I think it is easier to replace than a nice WH2O. Good luck with your search!