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What's the best riveting option (quality and value?)


By westofrome

7 years ago



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  • Latest reply 6 years ago by Dewey68
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    Topic poll

    “What's the best value in riveting tools?”

    • Pinbits pressless riveting kit ($10) 2 votes
      9%
    • Arbor Time Third Hand Rivet Tool ($80) 7 votes
      30%
    • Action Pinball Factory-Style Hand Rivet Tool & Die Set ($190) 3 votes
      13%
    • Pin Restore Rivet Press ($198) 5 votes
      22%
    • Other 6 votes
      26%

    (23 votes)

    #1 7 years ago

    Here are links to the options in the poll below.

    Pinbits pressless riveting kit ($10)
    http://www.pinbits.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10&products_id=72

    Arbor Time Third Hand Rivet Tool ($80)
    http://home.earthlink.net/~mountainminded/html/the_better_tonka_rivet_tool_-_.html

    Action Pinball Factory-Style Hand Rivet Tool & Die Set ($190)
    http://www.actionpinball.com/hardware.htm#rivet_tools

    Pin Restore Rivet Press ($198)
    http://www.pinrestore.com/Riveting.html

    #2 7 years ago

    Voted for other. using the pop rivets from Harbor Freight. Yeah, they leave a "hole" in the middle of the front of the rivet, and the backside isn't the prettiest thing you've ever seen, but they work and are substantially cheaper than any of these options except for the pinbits kit...

    #3 7 years ago

    I am interested in this also but not looking for the cheap route. I would like to know what is closest to factory. I am always up for buying another tool.

    #4 7 years ago

    I made my on third hand rivet tool it works great you can get the dies and rivets from grainger

    #5 7 years ago

    One tool will not fit all... I have the press tool, but found I need the "Factory-Style Hand Rivet Tool" to get the the sides of the ramps on The Flintstones to attach the metal protectors.

    While the press will open wide, I can't do the sides of the ramps as the other wall is in the way....

    As a cheap method the Pinbits kit would work, but wonder if they hold up after a lot of vibration/hits...

    -Mike

    #6 7 years ago
    Quoted from mikebetz42:

    One tool will not fit all... I have the press tool, but found I need the "Factory-Style Hand Rivet Tool" to get the the sides of the ramps on The Flintstones to attach the metal protectors.
    While the press will open wide, I can't do the sides of the ramps as the other wall is in the way....
    As a cheap method the Pinbits kit would work, but wonder if they hold up after a lot of vibration/hits...
    -Mike

    So in other words, if you were only going to buy one high-end option, you'd go for the hand rivet tool? Is the press significantly better for applications other than ramps?

    #7 7 years ago

    I bought the arbor press from Harbor Freight $37.50 - (25% off with coupon).

    http://www.harborfreight.com/1-ton-arbor-press-3552.html.

    I used the "Rivet Press Kit from PinRestore"....

    http://www.pinrestore.com/Riveting.html

    The press has worked great so far. I have done several plastics, assemblies, etc... just ran into a tight space issue on those ramps. Since the press is mounted to a bench it's easier to use IMO... Another method it to attach it to a piece of wood and clamp it to a table, etc. I have not used the other tools, other than the pop rivet tool.

    -Mike

    #8 7 years ago

    I have a Tatco clincher (the best but pricey), a press (modded Harbor freight) and made a tap punch out of round stock to hold the rollover die for large pieces.
    When I see pop rivets that is a sure sign a hack has been working on the game.

    http://www.browntool.com/Default.aspx?tabid=255&ProductID=185&List=1&SortField=ProductName,ProductNumber

    #9 7 years ago

    I love you too.

    #10 7 years ago
    Quoted from Frax:

    I love you too.

    I hate removing those things when I restore games especially when the plastic is made of unobtainium.
    I always cuss the person that did it, you have to hold an ice cube on them while you grind since you can't drill them.

    #11 7 years ago

    Wasn't aware of that, but that's a lot better than calling me a hack when I have no other option because I can't afford a ridiculous rivet press, or have ANYWHERE to put it.. =|

    So far, the only thing I've used it on was the standup clear plastic behind the STTNG drop target and the Command Decision plastic, so haven't had to remove any, and shouldn't for a good long time..

    I did learn about melting plastics though, my drill bit got hot enough drilling the old rivets that the old crappy plastic started to melt LOL.

    #12 7 years ago

    3rd hand is cheap, works like a champ, and can reach in many spots that others can't. Professional grade and I see no need for anything else unless you a roll riveting TONS of stuff...

    #13 7 years ago
    Quoted from Frax:

    Wasn't aware of that, but that's a lot better than calling me a hack when I have no other option because I can't afford a ridiculous rivet press, or have ANYWHERE to put it.. =|
    So far, the only thing I've used it on was the standup clear plastic behind the STTNG drop target and the Command Decision plastic, so haven't had to remove any, and shouldn't for a good long time..
    I did learn about melting plastics though, my drill bit got hot enough drilling the old rivets that the old crappy plastic started to melt LOL.

    If you hold the drill at a slight angle sometimes the rivet won't spin and the ice cube trick is the way to go when you have to grind them.
    A pair of Vise Grips or Channelocks works with tape on the jaw that goes on the face of the rivet works in a pinch, the rollover doesn't look pretty but it works.
    I think quite a few of us have melted a plastic removing them the first time so welcome to the club.

    #14 7 years ago

    Just ordered the Pinbits kit, to give it a try.
    (Doing the Warp ramp flaps on a DE Time Machine)

    #15 7 years ago
    Quoted from Frax:

    Wasn't aware of that, but that's a lot better than calling me a hack when I have no other option because I can't afford a ridiculous rivet press, or have ANYWHERE to put it.. =|

    Action Pinball provides a service where you send them your parts and they'll remove and rivet the new stuff for you for a charge.

    #16 7 years ago

    I've been using one of these, and so far so good.

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    #17 7 years ago

    Link here to a low priced hand press. Search in the aircraft industry for rivets and tools.
    http://www.yardstore.com/browse.cfm/4,3898.html

    #18 7 years ago
    Quoted from Out-West:

    Link here to a low priced hand press. Search in the aircraft industry for rivets and tools.
    http://www.yardstore.com/browse.cfm/4,3898.html

    Yow, how is that different than the $190 Action Pinball set? That is doesn't come with dies?

    #19 7 years ago

    Very happy with my Third Hand rivet tool. Very precise, clean results that look factory.

    #20 7 years ago

    Is everyone using the rivets from Pinrestore?

    #21 7 years ago
    Quoted from Dewey68:

    Is everyone using the rivets from Pinrestore?

    I get them from PBresource.

    #22 7 years ago

    Dies or squeeze sets inexpensive also. Just look around the site, hardest is learning what they call the items.
    http://www.yardstore.com/browse.cfm?viewfrom=25&catid=407&step=2

    #23 7 years ago
    Quoted from Out-West:

    Dies or squeeze sets inexpensive also. Just look around the site, hardest is learning what they call the items.
    http://www.yardstore.com/browse.cfm?viewfrom=25&catid=407&step=2

    Gotta love the "Texas Squeeze and Dimple Combo"!
    http://www.yardstore.com/browse.cfm/4,6337.html

    #24 7 years ago

    Newbie here who just got his Stargate replacement ramp that needs rivets. Thanks for all the ideas and help.

    #25 7 years ago

    I unfortunately need to poo-poo on the Pinbits tap-riviet kit. It was IMPOSSIBLE to get those stupid rivets to hold. I tried "light taps with a small ball hammer", as recommended by pinbits. NADA, no "roll over" on the rivet coller. I then upgraded to WAILING on the rivet (fearing the entire time I'd crack the NOS ramp I was installing light domes on). Wailing got it to stay in place... until you sneezed on it. Seriouly, if I even touched the "attached" rivet, the stupid thing would let go. I tried using a good 5 or 6 different rivets thinking I had one or two defective parts... not the case.

    I can absolutely NOT recommend these to anybody. If you don't want a rivet press, stick with pop-rivets.

    #26 7 years ago
    Quoted from cpsystem3:

    I unfortunately need to poo-poo on the Pinbits tap-riviet kit. It was IMPOSSIBLE to get those stupid rivets to hold. I tried "light taps with a small ball hammer", as recommended by pinbits. NADA, no "roll over" on the rivet coller. I then upgraded to WAILING on the rivet (fearing the entire time I'd crack the NOS ramp I was installing light domes on). Wailing got it to stay in place... until you sneezed on it. Seriouly, if I even touched the "attached" rivet, the stupid thing would let go. I tried using a good 5 or 6 different rivets thinking I had one or two defective parts... not the case.
    I can absolutely NOT recommend these to anybody. If you don't want a rivet press, stick with pop-rivets.

    Add another push nut to the rivet if they go on crooked or you beat them on too tight and deform them they won't hold.
    Pop rivets look like ass and can break your plastics there is no control on the pressure.
    You can use a drill bit or center punch to start the rollover and finish it with a flat punch if you don't have a clincher.

    2 months later
    #27 6 years ago

    Looks like I waited to long to buy a Third Hand Rivet tool. The website shows that they are no longer being produced and are out of stock.

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