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Quoted from Deez:This is interesting. Is that what the fees go to?
yup,
75% funnel to increase the prize pool for the state championship (if your state is like most then the same 4-8 people will take home most of that money)
25% funnels from each state directly to the national tournament. There a top 50 person in the world typically wins and most of them are buddies with the people running the IFPA.
Quoted from ZenTron:Google “Pinball League” the top result will be https://www.ifpapinball.com/leagues/ . Thats worth $1 per player per season for us.
In 7 years of running IFPA events I dont know of a single time that anyone has shown up due to that.
OP was originally assuming there was a potential promotional benefit from being IFPA. The only benefit is IF your players are interested in the points or people hunt it out because they are interested in the IFPA points. This is entirely the case in some areas or will become the case after people play and get in to the point aspect.
Fair warning that the people that attracts may turn off some of your current more casual players.
I actually like that IFPA provides the option for opt-in. You currently have the ability to only report and pay the $1 for each player that opts to do so. If your player base does not care about points then they dont have to pay or be reported; or if only 1 person shows up that is concerned about them you can just have them pay the buck and only report them (granted they will win every time in the eyes of the ifpa)
Quoted from ifpapinball:Some stats from this most recent year (out of 46 competitors):
- 14 of those players were ranked outside of the top 1000 (30%)
- 24 of those players were ranked outside of the top 250 (52%)
- 15 of those players were ranked in the top 100 (33%)
- 3 of those players were ranked in the top 25 (7%)
some other interesting stats (out of 46 competitors):
-Top 16 finishers average rank > 77
-17-32 finishers average rank > 528
-32-46 finishers average rank > 1380
Average rank of top 8 finishers (where the real money pay outs happen) > 32
# of top 8 that are friends of the IFPA >?
Quoted from Marvin:Of course a registration fee to cover the expenses of the organization wouldn't have accomplished what you wanted to do, because what you wanted to do was have the masses give money to the elite. It's working, it's your ball do as you please, but I'm not going to pretend I like it.
this guy gets what CrazyLevi still is incapable of grasping.
Charging an administrative fee would not have brought in the money from the scrubs that the current fee structure does. Crazylevi is incapable of actually having a conversation about it (and he has the potential financial benefit from the new system) so he opts to call anything he does not understand or like a conspiracy theory to try and reduce the merit of other peoples opinions.
Quoted from CrazyLevi:this guy gets what whysnow is still is incapable of grasping.
no, I fully grasp the ultimate business plan of bringing more money into competitive pinball/IFPA and the steps they are working towards.
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