I don't think he was questioning your ethics.
He was questioning the stop point. I'm sure the work is done very well. The issue is that its not a complete teardown as quoted. The inside of the cabinet gets it ass kicked and deserves the same attention to detail as the rest if the pin. GLWTS truthfully.

Anyone who has done a full restoration understands that its a ton of work. That said it does get frustrating to see things close but no cigar
Hell last year at the Allentown show someone was selling a " totally restored TAF "chromed out and everything. Cabinet similar to this and the never even replaced the missing foam on the targets.

Please don't take his Question offensively consider it constructive criticism.

Wish they were big girls in bikinis if we're gonna look at it that way.

How "big"??

But wait...aren't YOU a collector?

(Sorry...but this just occurred to me after some extensive thought.)

34 c does it for me.

This hobby is over the top now. I didn't paint the inside of the cabinet because it was in pretty nice shape and pretty clean ( not to mention that they weren't painted from the factory). I had no idea that Pinsiders had made a proclamation that a pin can't be considered fully restored if the inside of the cabinet isn't painted. Unbelievable!

Ok to get this thread back on topic I'm going to offer one of my pins for sale!
Nope, tried that before and couldn't let any go. So I am going to offer a bag of used screws from an EM Gotlieb playfield tear down. Only 10 bucks for the bag. Sorry no pictures it's a mystery bag. Shipping will be exact cost.

Agreed! How far? Plastics are now being remade for a lot of games, do they need to be new, new repro ramps, new translite, new legs? I feel the more the game retains the original parts, or in this case the cabinet paint, during a restoration...the better.

Are they screws or bolts? Please be very specific...because some people confuse them. And maybe my definition of a screw or bolt differs from yours.

Good point. If it's nice leave it alone.

Sorry to muck up you for sale thread. I will move my thoughts to a new thread

Why aren't you providing all details? What do you have to hide? Paper bag, plastic, zip lock, twist tie? Sheesh!

Pinsiders are soo touchy!

But seriously I see you have a few EM's I did tear down a couple EM playfields and saved everything from them. I have more then one bag, probably a large box of several bags. If interested PM me.

PM sent.

Looks beautiful!

FS players FH 3k

Let's get this thread on track

I agree lets get my favorite thread back to topic...

Players condition SEGA VIPER NIGHT DRIVIN, works great, playfield is beautiful, however cabinet is a little rough so this is a players condition machine. POSTED IN MARKETPLACE $1800. HOWEVER TO GET THIS THREAD BACK ON TRACK ref this thread in your PM and offer $1600 and its yours. Also PM for lots of HONEST pictures and details.

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Wow, that viper sounds like a great deal! Glad you are too far, I'd be 1600 poorer

Looks awesome! What's the name of this place?

Sorry just seen the name a few posts down.

Got a decent Players Condition SW:EP1 (light saber currently not working) looking for a DESW in same condition.

Players Condition in my book:
No wear on the playfield
Fully functional, or minor issues only, lights, rubber, needs cleaning - needing shopped(whoa there's another term needing defined)
Usual nicks, dings and cosmetic issues on cab

If you have a DESW and looking to trade, PM me, will exchange info and Pics

I am in the DC Metro area and can easily handle pick up and delivery as part of my end of the deal. Lets see whats available in a couple hundred miles first though...

Thanks

why can't any thread ever just stay on topic

says the North Carolinian in the MD, VA, DC, PA, DE FS/FT thread.

hey va is less than an hour from me and dc only 3

Well, it does say "surrounding area." I'm three hours from DC as well, so let's add Jersey to the mix.

Got any DESW to trade? NC, NJ is all close enough for my needs !

I need to visit the northeast thread more often!! There's all kinds of good stuff in there for sale. I hate traveling long distance , but I may have to make some sacrifices lol

I get that but when a round trip to get a pin is in the 20hr range it doesn't have that local feel anymore. With that said, and the way people are so spread out in this thread, it would be nice to see a network set up to move pins from state to state. I have piggybacked games when picking up games and a decent network would really help make pins more affordable. Food for thought.

Yeah it's just really hard to narrow that down, though .. I mean - far west Maryland to far east Maryland is a heck of a haul as well, or from corner to corner of PA, whereas NC to Southern VA may not be that far at all. Some sort of network does seem like a logical idea, and it wouldn't seem that hard to implement. Simply put in where you are coming and going from, and how much room you have. It could not only make pin prices better, easier to get, but also the guys doing the traveling would also make extra money without going too far out of their way. Seems like a win/win/win.

Seriously! I saw a pin listed in WV recently and thought, "Hey I have family in WV..." A little Google mapping and discovered my WV people were 5 hours away from it and I'm only half that. There are a couple pins I've seen on here that I would have split the shipping on but passed because I didn't have the time to go get them and didn't like the deal once the cost of shipping was included, assuming the seller was even willing to ship.

I drove almost to WV to get one.

I figure it's gonna be a pain today, but tomorrow I'll have the machine...

Real nice Guns & Roses for $5500.
PM me for pictures

Used MB playfield. Factory mylars. No raised inserts. Treasure Cove decal. Drac trak repaired. Scoop hole repaired but would use a cliffy. Happy to include one if I can find it. $525 plus shipping.

Dan

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Wv, va,, pa, dc, md , nj, are all well within driving distance imo .

If it's something you really want sure.

Guess im lucky in a way bc im kinda in the middle of everything and can be to pa , wv, va within a few minutes and dc in 45 min.

Everything is in driving distance until you get wet.

I have driven over 400 miles one way. That's about as far as I will go.

Yep around 4 hours one way is about our limit .

You're doing 120 mph with no traffic if you can get from Hagerstown to DC in 45 min. haha

I meant the dc surrounding area but yea actual downtown dc is 1.15-1.30 and Baltimore is around a hr. It's funny when I drive we get to places alot sooner than if she is lol.
Still im in a pretty decent spot in the middle of everything and can get to most major mid alantic cities within a hr or 2 .

Also if anyone has a work van they wanna sell or know of a decent work van pm me .... Thanks

I guess the furthest I have driven from Herndon VA was up to Ashbury Park to get a WW from Barry many years ago about 4 hours , and to pick up what was my AFM from an operator in Swansboro NC about 6.5 hours, which he delivered to my house on Emerald Isle free of charge.

Used to rue shipping costs, but with games appreciating the way they do, I have never lost any money on a game and that includes shipping.

Don't have a work van to sell, but I do have an 04 F250 Diesel and 14x7 enclosed trailer. Will give a shout out to the group if/when I head out to shows this year... Will be my first year going & don't thing the wife will let me fill up, so probably have room for "friends"

I actually do have a work van to sell but it's not set up for moving pins as-is. It's an '02 Chevy Express 1500 panel van with the barn doors and a full bulkhead. Also has ladder racks on the roof and drawers/shelves/fire box/etc. in the back, which I'd imagine you'd want to pull out to make room for pins. Nice soft rubber floor though, games ought to slide in and out easily.

Bought it from Sprint at 62K, think I'm up to ~160K. Left over from a business I sold 1.5 years ago, vinyl graphics removed but could use a bit of touch-up. Brand new heater core & blower, only a couple K miles on the tires at most. Has a hitch receiver but the wiring harness was dragged to death.

If someone needs a pin moving van, I highly recommend a Toyota Previa. Can buy one for under $2000 and remove the seats and you have enough space for 3 pins plus gear. Plus it's a Toyota, so it'll run a long time.

Where can you buy one for under $2000? I rarely even see them on the road, let alone for sale. Didn't they stop bringing them here like twenty years ago?

Enough with the distance discussion...Christ.

Exactly Pinphila Someone sell me a TZ

Just search Craigslist. I bought one last April, a '95 with a supercharger and 150,000 miles. Runs great and I've made many 4+ hour trips with it. Brought several pins and a slot to York and had it loaded with several pins coming back from NJ a few times.

They are still being made overseas and many are used as taxis. My daughter in law and her husband are stationed in Okinawa right now and see them all the time there, just under a different name.