Will be in the market for a new pin soon and while I would really love an AC/DC I will be nowehere near able to afford it. What do you all think is the poor mans AC/DC? Looking for fast with good flow in the 2000-2500 range. Would T2 be a good candidate? I used to love playing that back in the day but have not in a few years. Thanks for the input.
What I am leaning toward so far
I played an f-14 at PPE last weekend, and while I liked it I think it was not set up that well. Think I need to play a nicer one before I jump at that one, but great suggestion.
Quoted from McCune:Johnny Mnemonic is a good cheap speed pin
I have never played one of those, seems like people like it. Such a dud of a theme though.
Quoted from practicalsteve:I have never played one of those, seems like people like it. Such a dud of a theme though.
It's probably the one that will come closest to matching the speed of AC/DC. Some will say it's even faster.
F-14 is one of the fastest most furious action on a pinball. It so fast and flashy I can't play mine with the lights off... On the other hand NF is one of the most annoying pins on the planet. Hard to believe that the same guy designed both of those games. Couldn't get rid of it fast enough... Another thought is BK2000 fun and fast and most importantly fairly cheap... but ACDC is worth saving for...
Al
Quoted from Deadlander:but ACDC is worth saving for
With a new baby in the house it would take me quite a while to get to that price range.
Quoted from Breadfan:No Fear. Has the same voice yelling at you & is super fast. Also has some good music.
I just cannot get into that theme at all. I know there is the great debate play v.s. theme and I am one of those wre theme matters when owning a pin. I would definetly play it on location, just can't see it in my game room.
Quoted from Deadlander:BK2000 fun and fast and most importantly fairly cheap
I like that game, but I don't know about it being a primary pin in a collection. I basically only have 1 other which is a Mata Hari and that one is only on loan.
Quoted from GoneFishinLvMsg:Why not HS2? Your wishlist has the original. It's fast, it's a Ritchie game, it has a timeless theme (running from the cops) and it can be had for $1500 or less.
...and it has ZZ Top so it's *kind of* a music themed game! 
HS2 is awesome!
Quoted from GoneFishinLvMsg:Why not HS2? Your wishlist has the original. It's fast, it's a Ritchie game, it has a timeless theme (running from the cops) and it can be had for $1500 or less.
I have been considering that one more, out here in CA the price is probably closer to 2200-2500
Quoted from Mike_J:However, I would save for the Pro if you really like AC/DC. You might even find a good deal on an HUO. I don't think you'll be happy if you settle.
Quoted from markmon:T2 plays nothing like acdc so if you find those out of your price range I'd look into anything that is on your range with decent flow.
Not looking for an exact replica, and my next pin does not have to be AC/DC just looking for a fast flow game and was hoping to get some ideas I had not thought of, which I am.
Quoted from Deadlander:F-14 is one of the fastest most furious action on a pinball. It so fast and flashy I can't play mine with the lights off... On the other hand NF is one of the most annoying pins on the planet. Hard to believe that the same guy designed both of those games. Couldn't get rid of it fast enough... Another thought is BK2000 fun and fast and most importantly fairly cheap... but ACDC is worth saving for...
Al
Hmmm. I've owned my HUO No Fear since 2002 & has survived about a 40 pin rotation. Including titles like T2,RBION,& AFM. I don't play it as much as i did,but someone ALWAYS turns it on whenever we have a party & always a hit. It's one of the first I bought & won't be leaving. Especially now that it has its big brother BIBLE in the house!
Quoted from ThePostmaster:Rollergames
Now we are thinking outside the box! You think so? I actually really like the art package and the videos online lead me to believe I would like it, just have not been able to play one.
I wanted to really like this game. But the pro version is not worth it at all. A lot of ball drainers and just not worth it for a new pin. If anything I actually played the Premium version at a pinball event which is so much better of a game and makes you wonder how they can even make the regular pro on this particular game.
Quoted from Breadfan:Hmmm. I've owned my HUO No Fear since 2002 & has survived about a 40 pin rotation. Including titles like T2,RBION,& AFM. I don't play it as much as i did,but someone ALWAYS turns it on whenever we have a party & always a hit. It's one of the first I bought & won't be leaving. Especially now that it has its big brother BIBLE in the house!
Different strokes I guess... didn't like the cheddary theme and the steve/skull call outs were just grading... Also perhaps it was my lack of skill but a lot of hits to posts so it just wasn't my game but I do own and have owned and liked several SR games (ACDC,BK2K,F-14,HS2,& T2) just not this one... I think its a love it or leave it pin... I see a lot of them flip from collector to collector in our area. At least we agree that AC/DC premium/LE is awesome 
Al
Different strokes for different folks. I find JM to be horribly unbalanced as a title, and while T2 has some of the same issues, you can set it up ultra nasty and it is much harder to destroy than JM is.
Honestly, if you want a wacky suggestion, if you can try a VND. It can be super fast (if maintained and set up right, email me for details if you'd like) and has a rock and roll soundtrack by Slash. Warning: A *LOT* of people *HATE* VND, but I think that most of them just haven't played a well set up one.
Read the reviews on IPDB, as I think a lot of them are pretty fair about the differences. I laugh at the batmanjim81 one, as he's one of my best friends and he's talking about my machine there. It ain't for everyone, but it commands $2k-ish tops, and I think is absolutely outstanding... when cared for correctly. I originally scored it a 2.6.
Quoted from musketd:I might be in the minority here but I actually like the speed and flow of the pro better and think it is a superior game
derek
I think you are right....
You are in the minority,.....
Quoted from taylor34:Shadow
Don't insult The Shadow
Quoted from Jackontherocks:I wanted to really like this game. But the pro version is not worth it at all. A lot of ball drainers and just not worth it for a new pin. If anything I actually played the Premium version at a pinball event which is so much better of a game and makes you wonder how they can even make the regular pro on this particular game.
come on down and try my PRO out(IF you don't mind coming to the "POOR" part of town)Many local pinsiders who have played it,would beg to differ...
Quoted from musketd:I might be in the minority here but I actually like the speed and flow of the pro better and think it is a superior game
derek
I guess we are both "poor"
Yes, T2 does have a similar layout to AC/DC, but for the life of me, I don't get the "AC/DC is just like T2, etc..). The game plays NOTHING like T2. T2 is a one shot game to the skull. That's it. AC/DC plays NOTHING like that.
My guess is that the people saying this, haven't spent much time on AC/DC.
Quoted from NickBuffaloPinball:Yes, T2 does have a similar layout to AC/DC, but for the life of me, I don't get the "AC/DC is just like T2, etc..). The game plays NOTHING like T2. T2 is a one shot game to the skull. That's it. AC/DC plays NOTHING like that.
My guess is that the people saying this, haven't spent much time on AC/DC.
You got it ! AC/DC is superior to many many machines .
Jim
Quoted from ThePostmaster:Rollergames
+1. I had mine set around 6.5 degrees and it was very fast. A clean shot around the orbits was just blazing. And it is relatively cheap.
Quoted from gweempose:+2 on Rollergames
Very fast and fun game!
I guess I'm +3. Shots that miss the pit can come screaming back at you with those nice yellow rubbers flanking it.
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