Trying to make a list of what games need new playfields the most so we can get those guys right on it. I for one could use a new one for Speed Way.
Trying to make a list of what games need new playfields the most so we can get those guys right on it. I for one could use a new one for Speed Way.
Quoted from dave58:Would love a repro Aztec!
God damn maybe my favorite spinner ripping on that game
Quoted from dave58:Would love a repro Aztec!
With over 10,000 of these out there and most needing new playfields it shouldn't be too hard to get this one near the top of the queue.
Quoted from Toyguy:Grand Prix
Another high production game. Definitely high on the list.
How about some of the lower production EM "A" titles like Rocket, Nags, Trade Winds, and Teacher's Pet to name a few. I'm sure if we could get enough to commit a small run would be in order.
Quoted from way2wyrd:52 Deluxe World Series!!
Yeah i may be the only one with one but still!
--Jeff
I can see where you're coming from. Maybe if we can get 20 to commit a run in 2018 might be possible.
Although I know a reproduction early Williams playfield is probably purely fantasy I can think of a couple worthy titles. Games collectible enough that you could justify the $600 upgrade. Gusher and Heat Wave seem like good candidates.
"Gusher" for sure. I'd like to see "Jig-Saw" redone too. I don't know if anyone has ever repopped a woodrail playfield of any game unless you want to count the lane surface of "Bowlette". I believe someone did repro that.
Quoted from jrpinball:I don't know if anyone has ever repopped a woodrail playfield of any game unless you want to count the lane surface of "Bowlette". I believe someone did repro that.
Mermaid was done by Clay.
Jubilee.
Oh, Wait!, I have a NOS in the closet.
Never mind.
Other than most of the pitch and bats (which often sell way North of $1000), I am racking my brain trying to come up with a Williams EM title that will justify a repro playfield that would justify the $600-$700 plus labor. The few people that would pay a premium can usually find a decent example floating around out there.
But I do wish you Good Luck with your crusade! I will be closely watching what Titles get mentioned.
Quoted from CactusJack:Jubilee.
Oh, Wait!, I have a NOS in the closet.
Never mind.
Other than most of the pitch and bats (which often sell way North of $1000), I am racking my brain trying to come up with a Williams EM title that will justify a repro playfield that would justify the $600-$700 plus labor. The few people that would pay a premium can usually find a decent example floating around out there.
But I do wish you Good Luck with your crusade! I will be closely watching what Titles get mentioned.
Some of the early/mid 60s Williams games are really great players and would be well worth the effort. If you are looking at the game as a keeper for your collection and not worried about getting the money out of it, it would be easily worth it.
Grand Prix and Aztec are great players but there were a ton of them made and a lot of them still out there. I got a GP with a very very nice p/f so I wouldn't have need for one.
Quoted from CactusJack:I am racking my brain trying to come up with a Williams EM title that will justify a repro playfield that would justify the $600-$700 plus labor
It wouldn't be the first time a playfield was reproduced and sold for more than the game was worth the way it sat.
And I value my 4 Roses and Big Daddy with nice original playfields well over $1000.
OK.
Heck, that Steeple-Chase with the NOS playfield cost me way more than those other two, but since I'm probably the only one that has one we shouldn't lobby too hard for that one.
Quoted from o-din:It wouldn't be the first time a playfield was reproduced and sold for more than the game was worth the way it sat.
And I value my 4 Roses and Big Daddy with nice original playfields well over $1000.
I totally agree with both of you. But for Wade, you are going to need at least 19 more people that have the same passion for the same title. And sadly, for CPR to run with it, you will probably need to find 100 people interested.
I really feel you will have interest with the older Pitch and Bats since some restorers get over $5K for their work. A $700 playfield for a game like linked to above, would be a no-brainer.
Quoted from CactusJack:But for Wade, you are going to need at least 19 more people that have the same passion for the same title.
Would Wade do these? I was thinking about the guy that has done all the other EM Williams titles. What was his name again?
Quoted from o-din:Would Wade do these? I was thinking about the guy that has done all the other EM Williams titles. What was his name again?
Wade.
Oh, never mind. I didn't notice the caveat of "Williams" in your question.
But other than Wizard (which was Wade too.), I am not aware of any other EM playfields having been made other than Gottlieb titles.
Quoted from inhomearcades:Is Bally also a possibility? Would love to find a Bally Sea Ray
They were a seperate company with no affiliation to Williams. But another thread could be started..
Quoted from o-din:Trying to make a list of what games need new playfields the most so we can get those guys right on it. I for one could use a new one for Speed Way.
Who are "those guys"?
Quoted from John_I:Who are "those guys"?
The same guys. Still trying to remember their name.
I will add a poll. Whichever gets the most votes we can start petitioning Wade to see if any of this can happen.
Licensing may be more of a challenge for the Williams stuff. Robert Fesjian is pretty easy to work with. That's a big part of why there is so much Gottlieb stuff available.
Quoted from AlexF:Licensing may be more of a challenge for the Williams stuff.
That never stopped pre-ordering in pinball before. Let's cross that bridge when we come to it. Maybe the guy will decide a little money is better than no money at all.
Quoted from o-din:They were a seperate company with no affiliation to Williams. But another thread could be started..
Same telephone exchanges. COlumbia. Same /postal/zip code 18/60618
But otherwise yeah, fierce competitors in the pinball world back then.
Are inserts avalble to do these playfield?
At the top of Heat Wave there are rollovers in an insert
No point voting if the insert is not made
Quoted from PopBumperPete:Are inserts avalble to do these playfield?
At the top of Heat Wave there are rollovers in an insert
No point voting if the insert is not made
That is one of the biggest hurdles for the people doing the playfields (here in the US and Canada) besides getting the proper wood. Not all of the molds exist any longer and it is very costly to have new ones made (as in: "cost prohibitive" for a single title). Additionally, Foremost plastics (that made many of the inserts) has minimum run requirements and can have very long lead times. So, when a playfield uses a single, or only 2 inserts of a particular size, it makes it hard to justify the run or to have to sit on hundreds of unneeded inserts. While color change does cost something, its not so bad when a playfield uses multiples of standard sizes. But it still adds to the bottom line of profit verses loss.
Quoted from PopBumperPete:At the top of Heat Wave there are rollovers in an insert
No point voting if the insert is not made
It looks like most that had a rollover button had it in an insert. Haven't any playfields been repro'd that had one? Surely Williams isn't the only one that had these.
Quoted from way2wyrd:Hmm no deluxe world series in the poll ......
I ran out of room... 2018 is not far away.
Where's the poll for the 1962 Williams King Pin?
Oh well, I voted for Heat Wave as the runner up.
Ken
Quoted from EM-PINMAN:Where's the poll for the 1962 Williams King Pin?
Oh well, I voted for Heat Wave as the runner up.
Ken
Those aren't from the 70s.
That's OK. As soon as we start narrowing it down we can do another poll.
Quoted from o-din:That never stopped pre-ordering in pinball before. Let's cross that bridge when we come to it. Maybe the guy will decide a little money is better than no money at all.
So this is a troll thread as I had originally suspected. Sigh. Have been close to pushing the ignore button on the OP for a long while.
It's not a troll thread! There is a real need for reproduction Williams parts and they are not going to get done if everybody just sits on their ass!
Every EM playfield and backglass that gets reproduced seems to sell out. Yet we can't even get plastics, let alone backglasses or playfields for most of the more popular Williams EM games. And there are a lot of good ones. Maybe some would rather that part of the history of pinball just die and get buried forever.
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