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*~*THE~NEXT~STERN*~*

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#3493 4 years ago
Quoted from Dr-pin:

I'm fifty plus and Wouldn"t play a tmnt even if it was the last pin on the planet.
For your tmnt pin, what would be the fun things, wizard modes etc that you think would make for an awesome pin.?
I'm Sorry i don't get it. Atleast rockband themes comes with great music and cool lifestyle attitude, but turtles?

Well you sound like a stick in the mud! Haha

TMNT is in the pipeline...

#3508 4 years ago
Quoted from Dr-pin:

So for what ages are tmnt?
40 to 48 year span?
I know none of my kids would care for a turtle pin.
Btw if you think im wrong, answer the questions.

Gladly

You could have a canister of ooze from TGRI that you would have to lock 4 balls in.

You could collect the 4 different weapons from the turtles

You could build the turtle van! (Maybe turtle van video mode)

Save NYC from any or all the villains

Save April

Sewer slide ramp.

Skateboarding Mikey

Large technodrone with built in ramp that opens up.

Ooze mode (lights out flashing green)

Krane body suit or shredder interactive toy. (Smash shredders mask until it breaks)

Ninja vanish jackpot. Try to lock all multiballs

It would be amazing if they did different artwork for the models

Pro based off the new movie being filmed.

Premium current cartoon theme.

LE classic 80-90s cartoon.

Or just do it all off the 80-90s

This theme has legs 5-45 ages it would be a smash hit on route and that’s the best insurance policy to keep this hobby alive!

#3509 4 years ago
Quoted from DavidPinballWizz:

In my country turtle movies and series are shown but kids don't seem to care a lot.
I experienced turtles in the eighties as a kid, loved it back then but would never buy anything turtles today...

I’d disagree if it’s on TV then kids are watching. TV time is valuable if they weren’t seeing a return they would pull it from the schedule.

If you saw it on route that nostalgia would cause you to drop some coins in it i promise

#3531 4 years ago

I love all the TMNT talk i hope stern is listening I’d be a pro and LE buyer. One for route one for home. Shit maybe 3 for route 1 for home

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#3635 4 years ago
Quoted from Maide:

Ninja Turtles would be a sight-unseen LE purchase. My wife wouldn't let that one go; she's even considered buying the Data East one..

Same! Let’s see TMNT

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#4542 4 years ago

So what’s next?

Is this TMNT rumor true?

#4544 4 years ago
Quoted from KnockerPTSD:

I hope.so but how about letting Jurassic and Elvira get out there before worrying about what's next? Take a breath.

Nah I’m not interested in either of them i will keep holding.

Let’s go turtles

#4610 4 years ago

Dune?

Never heard of it

Bring on turtles

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#4749 4 years ago

So any idea if we’re getting another game in 2019? It seems like they have a lot going on right now.

Good to hear TMNT is coming! I can be patient just as long as it’s on it’s way!

#4827 4 years ago

I still think turtles is the best choice.

Bigger then goonies, beatle juice, top gun and dune (sorry never heard of it) back in the 80s and had been relevant ever since.

I don’t see goonies bringing new kids into pinball.

TMNT will be a hit on location. If it’s not next i can wait patiently.

#4875 4 years ago
Quoted from Rager170:

Well, are the kids going to be buying them, or their parents who liked 80's movies??
I personally think Top Gun would be a boring theme.

You forget pinball roots.

Their machines made to create revenue on location typically from the youth.

Yes that has shifted but if they kids of today don’t have anything to get them interested in pinball now they won’t want games when their 50.

#4920 4 years ago

So what are the chances of getting another game in 2019?

Or do you think they will wait till Jan 2020

#4968 4 years ago
Quoted from KnockerPTSD:

I risk pinside banishment but I dont get excited for Ritchie games any more. I love some of his games but they are all too similar feeling for my taste.

I still love No fear the best!

I know people are gonna hate me for that

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#5093 4 years ago
Quoted from zombieyeti:

I’m still digesting all of that podcast but I can tell you that’s not been my experience at all. Gary is actually very nice and personable. But - I’m sure it has everything to do with the fact I have never tried to sell my work that they paid the usage rights for.
No professional artist I know ascribes to what I heard on that podcast, btw.
Also - Greg absolutely has a personality and a great sense of humor (he did write the majority of all Elvira games after all iirc).
So weird that at all turns he felt victimized after admitting to insisting his behavior he was asked to change (selling his stern art) was ok 70 times? They only have to say no once. You signed a contract. Bizarre to me.
So much incorrect info in that podcast... I don’t get it - But he unfriended me long ago with no reason and wouldn’t speak to me at expo...

ZY excited to see the new TMNT Pin!!!!
I know its gonna be amazing!

#5117 4 years ago
Quoted from Mach5Amps:

I'd be in for a Shelby pin. Or Ford v. Ferrari (but it's probably hard to tie in to a movie that's not likely to be a huge box office smash with sequels).
Still... Cobras. GT40s. Daytona Coupes. Speed. Racing. Crashes. Awesomeness.
Just, dear God, no Dodge GLH-S Omni things. Those were hideous.

Love cars but i think Mustang proved that this type of theme isn't going to work...

side note can't wait for the movie! another good one would be the Lamborghini VS Ferrari story

#5145 4 years ago

Stern just announce TMNT already...

#5192 4 years ago

Anyone have any news? Seems like if there is another release in 2019 we would hear about it now!

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#5225 4 years ago

So when are they announcing TMNT?!? I’m ready stern!

#5307 4 years ago

I’ve heard we won’t see another release in 2019 anyone else have different information?

#5338 4 years ago

Wow did we get off topic... haha

#5348 4 years ago
Quoted from Looprunner:

I'm convinced it is Stranger Things after Stern's Facebook post for Halloween. If it happens my wife and kids will be pushing me to buy one. That show is fairly popular among the kids in my area.

I’m just wondering if we will see something in 2019! I’m hoping so!

#5367 4 years ago

Stranger things followed by TMNT sounds good to me I’d buy both!

Any idea when?

Will we see anything this year or is it going to be January?

#5409 4 years ago

Some one please make up a rumor so we can get back on topic... haha

I’ll start.

I heard ninja turtles will be announced the week of thanksgiving. Shipping should start first week of dec. last pro at this price point before they increase in 2020.

#5478 4 years ago

The Houston show is coming up...

Does stern normally release after this show?

Seems like if they were to do it it would be right after Houston. Nov 14-17

#5520 4 years ago

Anyone have data on the past?

Does stern normally release in NOv? Dec?

#5528 4 years ago
Quoted from Psw757:

Next machine will be the long rumored Led Zeppelin machine.

God i hope not! This will do nothing on route. We need something to help non pinball players to drop coins

#5598 4 years ago

So looking like we will see something later this month?

Bring on turtles!

#5624 4 years ago
Quoted from kciaccio:

Right now they are the only company that produces routable games...

I’ve heard the remakes from CGC have been really reliable on route? I hope this is true i just picked one up.

#5636 4 years ago

Come on someone spread some rumors!

#5638 4 years ago
Quoted from DS_Nadine:

Why? we pretty much have confirmation what's next and two additional upcoming titles.

Confirmation?

Please fill me in I’ve just heard guessing

#5658 4 years ago

Stranger things and TMNT will have my money!

Eddy on TMNT

#5701 4 years ago
Quoted from SantaEatsCheese:

Wish hard folks.[quoted image]

Please tell me this is a joke

#5729 4 years ago
Quoted from frankmac:

VE possibility ?[quoted image]

Doubtful i don’t think this would make any sense.

Cool that they have so many though!

Ninja turtles is shipping dec 18

#5739 4 years ago
Quoted from Da-Shaker:

Why is Stranger Things a no brainier? Also why does a lot of people think this is next?

It really is a great idea everyone from 13-35 is obsessed with it.

If this is announced i will definitely get one for Route.

Now it turtles gets announced I’ll get 2!!

#5748 4 years ago
Quoted from noob-a-tron:

I thought pinball was mainly an over 40 thing now?

And if stern keeps only making machines for that age group they won’t have any customers in 30 years.

Honestly location pinball isn’t dead. With arcade bars there are a lot of 20s-30s flippin

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#5764 4 years ago

Any idea when we will hear about the next release?

#5812 4 years ago

So will we see an announcement in 2019?

My guess is no. I don’t see them making a release and shipping before x mass. They would have to announce it now.

#5892 4 years ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

Tron great candidate ... but wonder if it would still have SAM boards?
Started to re-appreciate some of the great SAM games again.
SAM games are bullet proof compared to Spike 1 and 2. Tick tock.
TRON
IM
AC/DC
SM

really? I've heard great things about the spike 2 system. I must admit I don't have any Sam games on route

#5901 4 years ago

I heard ninja turtles will be announced before 2020 Im ready to pull the trigger!

#5906 4 years ago

stranger things hopefully will have great music. If not Pinside will correct that fast.

#5984 4 years ago

So anyone confirmed that there will be a release next week?

#6033 4 years ago

Just so I’m clear stern is announcing ninja turtles on Monday right?

I gotta get my money ready to go

Pro and LE

#6042 4 years ago

For those of you who haven’t see. Stranger things let me put it like this.

The movie sandlot from the early 90s about kids growing up in the 50s

Now it’s a show about kids growing up in the 80s released in today. Only difference aliens

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#6061 4 years ago

Ok it’s Tuesday where is the ninja turtles revile?

#6113 4 years ago

I’m guessing at this point we’re not seeing another release in 2019.

What do you guys think?

#6207 4 years ago

Did anyone buy the new ninja turtles sight unseen?

#6264 4 years ago
Quoted from DS_Nadine:

So... who still believes that thing will be delivered to homes till December 23rd?
Maybe if it's Bill & Ted. I mean,... they DO HAVE a time machine!

I highly doubt it!

This would make zero business sense I’m thinking we don’t see anything till 2020

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#6284 4 years ago
Quoted from pascal-pinball:

Now we know that Stranger Things is the next Stern, the big question is: what is the next Stern?

Let’s start the ninja turtles hype

#6304 4 years ago

Ninja turtles but the real question is February March or April

#6323 4 years ago

So ninja turtles or LZ? Which is first on the line?

If release is May which seems really far away aka 5 months that’s a big gap!

#6332 4 years ago

Trust me turtles fan base goes much much deeper then just kids.

You also probably think stranger things is only for kids as well.

#6364 4 years ago

Bring on TMNT I’m excited to see what they do. The old data east game sucks and still kills it on route

#6396 4 years ago
Quoted from cooked71:

Why do I get the feeling TMNT, a theme I have literally zero interest in, will have brilliant Yeti art and classic Borg layout and just be all-round brilliant, and I’ll end up buying it despite hating the theme???

TMNT will be amazing!

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#6410 4 years ago

It sounds like TMNT is gonna be amazing!

I’m also so happy it’s the 80/90s style

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#6442 4 years ago

I’m 99% confident TMNT is next! I’m thinking early March

#6459 4 years ago
Quoted from Wakky:

You're 'livin on a prayer' based on pinside rumours ....

Hmmm i disagree money has changed hands

#6465 4 years ago

See the new Insta post from stern? There is a ninja turtle in the art and their response to a comment is perfect. TMNT is next and deposits are being taken

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#6632 4 years ago

With internet capabilities in the new system i hope stern has taken advantage of the credit card possibilities. It will be huge for operators.

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#6806 4 years ago

Any new news on TMNT? I’m excited to see this release

#7086 4 years ago

I hope heavy metal doesn’t slow down the release of ninja turtles!

It’s almost March let’s go

#7190 4 years ago

When are we gonna see a TMNT leak?

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#7486 3 years ago

Let’s see some more ninja turtles leaks.

Now with some places going back to work i wonder if stern is one of them. I know Colorado made some changes as of Monday

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#7549 3 years ago

So the next stern is ninja turtles?

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#8657 3 years ago

So what’s the rumor? What’s the next game?

#8667 3 years ago

I’m surprised there hasn’t been a GI Joe pin.

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#9869 3 years ago

I would really like to see them revisit high speed.

The getaway is one of my favorite games. So simple but satisfying. The supercharger is one of the coolest toys.

I’d love to see stern revisit this title.

Sports cars will always resonate with people i think this would fair much better compared to black night.

#9872 3 years ago
Quoted from cait001:

isn't that just Star Wars Pre/LE?

Not in the slightest

#10051 3 years ago

Anyone else see an 11% increase from their distributor?

I didn’t see that coming. That’s it for me new games are to hard to get a return on. Looks like it’s time to pick up more used games from the 90s.

#10054 3 years ago
Quoted from Saltimbanco:

That's what is actually happening. However, even those games are now way too popular and have increased in value. Top games were already pretty expensive.. the hobby is surfing that wave right now..

I respectfully disagree still a lot of good games in the 3-4 range that earn on route.

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#10206 3 years ago

I’m ready for another Mario Pin. The old game is horrible and still earns really well on route.

Time for stern to make a Mario pin

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#11658 3 years ago

Will we hear something today?

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#12450 3 years ago

I’m ready for something different. I wish they would give a different lay out a try. Deadpool was a nice change and it paid off.

Can i please get another no fear jump ramp?!?!?

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#12983 3 years ago

I’m hoping for a good family theme. Something young kids can get into.

#12984 3 years ago

Side note still hoping for a warp tour machine. All the awesome music can add skating to the theme

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#13138 3 years ago

Warp tour! Skateboarding and punk rock.

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#13262 3 years ago

So the rumor really is Godzilla?

I’m hoping for something with a little more draw. I don’t see Godzilla earning on location.

Anyone run the sega Godzilla on location how does it do?

#13391 3 years ago

So still no word on what’s next?

#13482 3 years ago
Quoted from Yesh23:

I do believe Gary inflates these numbers. Keep in mind if they're averaging a 100 machines a day, here's the math of Sterns top line revenue. 52 weeks a year, multiply that by 5 days a week=260 total days. That means they'd be making 26,000 machines a year at an average sale price (rounding down to $5,000)=top line revenue at Stern of $130,000,000.
I'm going to share with you some numbers from 2019, keep in mind this is not 2020 numbers so sales could be up but I doubt top line revenue is up more than 20%.
Stern took out a PPP loan in 2020 that would have been off of 2019 payroll number. Their loan was $1,850,000. This would have been for 2.5 times of average monthly payroll (1,850,000 divided by 2.5)=monthly payroll of $740,000.
Then take the $740,000 and multiply it by 12 months so you'll get annual payroll of $8,800,000. Keep in mind this should include benefits (401k) because Illinois is a state that requires 401k for employers that have over 25 employees. Granted Stern doesn't have to match anything in the 401k but I doubt they wouldn't. In this case, let's just assume they don't so annual payroll expenses will remain at the $8,800,000.
Most manufacturing run around 30-40% of payroll expenses. I have to assume making pinball is very manual so this would drive up the number. If we went in the middle at 35% (you take the 8,800,000 divided by 35%)=top line revenue around 25,000,000. If you're at the low end of 30% expenses it puts it around a 30,000,000. Far less than a 130,000,000.

PPP loans are for more then just labor. It’s for all expenses rent/mortgage utilities and labor.

#13605 3 years ago
Quoted from captainmuddflap:

JAWS would be awesome!

Agreed i just hope if they do it they take their time and throw some money at it! That game would need a ball eating shark

#13759 3 years ago

I hope it’s MK and i hope it’s rated M

#13813 3 years ago

Come on mortal kombat

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#14559 3 years ago

Stern can you please release something soon!

Either that or Chicago gaming...

#14727 3 years ago

What are the chances we see something from stern tomorrow?

Also i agree stranger things keeps getting better and better! If you disagree give it another shot with an open mind you will be impressed.

#14758 3 years ago
Quoted from Maniac227:

Hmm, if it is Brian Eddy then is it more likely Godzilla so you have a giant toy to bash or maybe Mortal Kombat since he also worked on that video game franchise?

Mortal kombat would kill it on route I’m hoping this is the case

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#15214 3 years ago
Quoted from Goronic:

/begin vent
This is an issue that I have about buying NIB pins the last few years. If you want an SLE, or Collectors Edition, you have to get in day 1 or just a few days later or you will probably miss out. Even Rick and Morty was gone in a day. Seems that the "play it first, and then buy it" are gone. If you want it you better get in on in fast or you will miss out. It is so bad I keep a close eye on what is coming out so I can order ASAP as soon as the announcement is made. Some are even having distributors hold 'possible' games with a deposit. And there are some deep pockets in this hobby now where the 'high prices' aren't much of a deterrent for them.
So for people that want to hold off and play it first you will likely be unable to get MSRP on a SLE, LE or CE version and will have to 'settle'? for a PRO or Premium model.
/end vent

Risk VS reward.

Bright side it doesn’t always pay off. I’m sure there are some Munster LE owners who regret their decision.

Also it’s nice that LE VS premium is only a cosmetic difference. Stern does it right!

#15332 3 years ago
Quoted from Jaybird815:

I’m not sure Stern will be announcing anything soon, they just sent out memos that there are further production delays with their backlog of games.
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/jurassic-park-stern-2019-owners-club-welcome-to-jurassic-park/page/202#post-6205557

At least a month out from seeing anything I’m hearing unfortunately

#15482 3 years ago

Maiden is the best!

Aiq premium

Then JP (i just never got into the code i find it dull)

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#16073 3 years ago

May the 4th

#16237 3 years ago

I wonder what Elwin will do with Mandalorian?
Think it’s going to be another 3 flipper game?

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#17484 2 years ago

The repost from stern insta has to be a joke... right?

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#18419 2 years ago

What’s really next? Back to the future seems like it’s still a ways away. Jaws summer release would be awesome

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#18891 2 years ago

Can we please get a new South Park?

Asking on behalf of all the operator's out there.

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#19601 2 years ago

I’ll probably get some heat for this but stern can we please get a game with a simple easy to understand rule set?

BSD is one of my all time favorite games and it’s because of how basic and rewarding the rule set is.

Easy to start multi ball and for the advanced the challenge of staking all 3.

As an operator I’m afraid that the casual player has no idea what’s going on and if their doing well or not. Leaving the experience unrewarding.

#19619 2 years ago
Quoted from TheLaw:

BKSOR

Munsters was pretty simple and I don't think it did well.

I personally didn’t find munsters to be that simple however i haven’t played it in years so maybe code has changed.

I remember playing and getting a low score and playing a similar game with a crazy score must have been multiplayers that i didn’t realize we’re going on.

I understand that the super super novice players won’t care but for anyone semi interested in the hobby a simple rule set is enjoyable.

I’m obsessed with pinball but I’m sorry avengers is over my head i don’t understand 50% of the game and i feel that it hurts the overall experience. Had a similar feeling with JP.

Maiden however is my favorite but that could be because of how in-depth they were with the reveal videos.

AFM/MM those rule sets are perfect for an intermediate player in my opinion.

Beatles/PBR/SW home pin I’m sure are simple rulesets but also very bland playfield‘s

Just my amateur opinion

#19765 2 years ago

This won’t last forever. Inflation is going to destroy the economy.

#19805 2 years ago
Quoted from BasementFacts:

How do you top Getaway?

The getaway is fantastic so is no fear!

I would love to see another jump ramp!

That shot in No Fear is the coolest shot in pinball in my opinion

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#20582 2 years ago

I’m also starting to think Godzilla is a code name for something else.

Stern keeps pushing operators that this is going to be a huge hit on route and i don’t see how they could be saying that about a Godzilla theme.

We will know soon but my guess is it’s a more mainstream title

#20742 2 years ago

Looks like they just pushed the release back by a week.

#20745 2 years ago
Quoted from Chambahz:

What makes you say that? Distributor?

Operator webinar was just pushed back by a week.

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#21993 2 years ago

So… South Park is next?!?!?

#22047 2 years ago

So will the new South Park pin have casa Bonita?!?

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#22170 2 years ago

So is south park going to be a December 2021 release or early 2022?

#22193 2 years ago
Quoted from DeadFlip:

So I made a thing!
Stern let me reimagine the “Pin” and I couldn’t be more stoked with how it turned out!
https://sternpinball.com/affordable-home-game/jurassic-park-pin/

A jump ramp?!?!? Finally!

I hope they put one into a pro game soon!

#22227 2 years ago

Tegridy farms multiball!

This new south Park is going to be gold on location!

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#25319 2 years ago

Watched the new Venom! I was impressed the chemistry is good i get a Deadpool vibe. Excited to see the new pin this one will be on route! Unless they Jack up the price again

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#25347 2 years ago
Quoted from Zartan:

I would like to see this!
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I agree GI joe would be sweet! Comic art for sure

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#28288 1 year ago

Any word on when they will release bond? End of this month?

#28294 1 year ago
Quoted from PinMonk:

They have a booth (#3721) at Comic Con Jul 21-24, so an announcement there with release in August might be a reasonable timeline. They're sharing the booth with Rebellion Republic that reps Dirty Donny, but also...Venom.
https://rebellionrepublic.com/products/categories/bands/[quoted image]

I hope your right. I’d rather see venom then bond.

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#28899 1 year ago

Just give us a new southpark already operator’s are dying for one!

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#29232 1 year ago

So since the next stern pin has been confirmed as South Park do you think they will do an included topper like the 1999 version or do you think it will be extra?

#29296 1 year ago

Come on just announce South Park already!

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#29665 1 year ago

Next game is South Park

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#30364 1 year ago

Bond Gomez could be cool I’m sure it will be cartoon which will be good.

I’m still ready for my new southpark…

#30802 1 year ago

Did stern announce the new southpark pin yet? Or is that still hush hush

#31189 1 year ago
Quoted from ultimategameroom:

Mnpinballs predictions are always spot on. The only machine that he predicted last year that hasn’t been released yet is Bond.

That also could be because of steve leaving. That would definitely change up the release schedule

#31208 1 year ago
Quoted from gonzo73:

Please stop posting...
All of you..
Enough.
Tuesday, come back and see.

South Park

#31357 1 year ago

This new South Park game is gonna be fantastic for locations!
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#31839 1 year ago

It’s South Park be patient

#32280 1 year ago

So bond it is! “Screw you guys I’m
Going home!”

We wanted southpark stern!

#32287 1 year ago
Quoted from aldrichg9:

Who even cares about Bond these days?
What a freakin bust man.

I tend to agree. As an operator I’m not super excited about this theme. I’m sure they will do cartoon artwork which will help but still. Venom would have been better for location play.

#32506 1 year ago
Quoted from mpdpvdpin:

I have a Halloween on location and it’s paying itself down along with all my others.

Sounds like you have good locations congrats! Most operators won’t see a ROI for 4-5 years on a pin.

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#33385 1 year ago

I hope they do another announcement in December like normal.

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#33870 1 year ago

If it’s a music pin wouldn’t it be foo fighters?

Regardless will we see a release late December like normal?

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#43830 3 months ago

How disappointing. I’m amazed they didn’t get that shark to do something interactive with the ball.

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