Quoted from CrazyLevi:
That's just silly. It was not "thrash," there's a couple of faster songs but nothing on there is anywhere as near thrashy/speedy as the stuff bands like Priest and Motorhead were doing years earlier (or even SABBATH - have you never heard Symptom of the Universe?! It's "thrashier" than anything Dio Sabbath ever did!). Dio Sabbath is solid but it didn't break any new ground, don't see where you got that.
People are always obsessed with thinking something they like is some kind of underappreciated influence on a genre it has little to do with.
"Johnny Cash was the first punk!"
"The Beatles were the first Boy Band!"
"Blondie invented rap!"
No they aren't and no they didn't. Stop being stupid.
The album itself is not Thrash. But, the song Mob Rules is a thrash song.
Geez man. I said influenced. And again. Its there.
If you don't think that the Thrash bands all heard that album and didn't take the pieces that they liked from it you're mistaken.
And sure... Dio wasn't influencial in heavy metal...
That is silly. And STUPID. Let's see... His work in Rainbow.. .Check... His work in Sabbath... CHeck... His work in Dio... Check...
Oh... And also... I've listened to most of the rock and hard rock bands. Dating back to purple... And a few odds and ends before... If you can't track the progression of the heavy metal sound as it evolves and not see Dio's influence.
Purple was not a metal band. Hard Rock... Rainbow was not a metal band... Hard Rock... But, it pushed the Rock Genre closer to heavy metal. And really. A lot of the Heavy Metal sound in the 80s... That started to appear. Around 77-80. Priests first few albums whether crapily produced or not, didn't have the sonic properties of metal as we know it today.
Took Stained Class to really be their sonic breakthrough...
Iron Maiden really didn't hit their stride till 82's Number of the Beast. Sure a lot their sound was already in place... But, still needed to be tweaked.
Heaven and Hell the album kind of set the measuring stick for what a metal album in the 80s should sound like.
And yeah... I love Priest... But, Priest is across the board with their sound. And no doubt influential.. Cos they were always at top 5 metal band....
Jeez man. Same with Dio... But, a lot of people only think Holy Diver is all he's ever done. And people DO TRY TO ERASE his legacy.
Just also want to put a small edit at one of the things that the metal sound and evolution all share...
Martin Birch. Producer/engineer for Machine Head by purple. Producer for Rainbow... Producer for Heaven and Hell and Mob Rules. And Producer for Maiden during their golden age run... So he should get his due as well. He also produced Schenker's best album in the 80s Assault Attack. And actually he did produce Machine Head... Just isn't credited... But, he was there and he did his duties the same as if he was producing it.
So Levi... You believe what you want... But, I have listened to more metal and rock than most even die hard music fans... A few people do put me to shame. Like my old college roommate, but he was crazy about it.
I just love heavy metal. It is your one way ticket to midnight after all.