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Never Weird Al. While he has been given so many graces from record companies for his parodies, they don't get much commercialization outside of the normal streams since the licensing would be a mess.
Thus making Wierd Al the perfect homebrew pinball machine project choice...
Was really hoping for GotG or Jurassic World at this point.
Quoted from Herm:Guardians of the galaxy would be cool but the music licensing might be expensive.
The songs are all from the 1970s or so. The licensing is probably not too crippling. Those that are still alive, and the estates of the others, probably don't demand the same coin as a contemporary pop star. And you could probably get away with skipping some, like Bowie and Jackson 5
I'm continually shocked pinball manufacturers aren't working with videogame licenses.
Pokémon, Metroid, Resident Evil, Half Life, Halo, Mario Bros, Sonic The Hedgehog, etc etc etc.
So many great titles that are known for big action, have a huge built-in fanbase, and so many assets to work with creatively.
From the 80s you had stabs at it with Q*Bert, Baby Pac, Mr. and Mrs Pacman, Joust. 90s Gottlieb gave us SFII and 2 Mario games. (Rollercoaster Tycoon counts, I guess)
But here we are with pins based off 50-60 year old TV shows and bands doing their long retirements. I love the new titles, but the people that grew up on home video games are now the ones with the careers and midlife crises!
I've seen a lot of griping in forums where people are like "NEW RESIDENT EVIL GAME???" and it's a thread lamenting that the new machine is a Biohazard pachinko from Japan. The pachinko/pachislo industry has done a decent job in tapping the video game world. I think other popular ones were Metal Gear, Castlevania, and Silent Hill.
Quoted from Dr-pin:world of warcraft
oh yes, WoW or StarCraft would both be amazing pinball themes
They're going to copy the Data East dinosaur head that eats the ball but will innovate with a playfield toy that poops it out the other end.
Quoted from DS_Nadine:Jurrassic XXX wourd be "meh".
Stern hasn't made a pornographic pin since Playboy in 2002 so I doubt they'd re-enter that market with sexy dinosaurs.
Quoted from ahdelarge:So....the dealer livestream is happening now. How long til someone from that stream spills the beans on the title and it appears on Pinside?
OK, someone make it happen
Quoted from Raegor:I'd love Grease, been saying that forever.
I re-watched it recently and couldn't get over how poorly it aged. It's pretty rapey. I love musicals but the sun is setting on that one.
On that note, they could totally get away with a Hamilton themed pin.
Quoted from Billy16:SW home edition would be a major bummer...
alas, prep the bums for bumming.
Quoted from frankmac:SW mini pin.
WTF Who buys these
Mini pins have their own thread this-a-way, but I digress... https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/mini-pins-whos-got-em-nudge-it-bell-ringer-bullseye-etc-etc
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:and in Pinball it applies to shots that are repeatable. When hit enough, a high score will result or a match win. I hate all casual references to or uses of the term.
If you'll all permit the quick tangent, when I joined the local league they asked how they can get more women to attend. My first response was to stop saying stuff like "raping the spinner" and "raping the backbox for parts".
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:did it help?
It did! It's only correlation but I haven't heard local people say that in 2 years, and as well the number of women competing is way up.
Quoted from j_m_:hamilton the musical, or a pin based on mark (or dorothy) hamil[l]?
was think the Broadway musical Hamilton. As it sits, Tommy is the only pin based on a stage musical.
(Phantom Of The Opera isn't related to the stage production iirc)
Quoted from Billy16:Nice call to those who predicted this release--you were right!
NO, THEY DOOMED US TO THIS FATE WITH THEIR PROPHECIES!
Quoted from arcademojo:There were two Dune movies.
I remember actually enjoying the TV series... probably doesn't hold up though
Quoted from cosmokramer:John Wick...
that could make up for the fact we never got a Matrix pinball.
Pokémon would be a great theme, and a safe way to diversify offerings away from Stern's focus on 40-something guys. Of course they would have to offer a version of the code for redemption arcades...
Quoted from SantaEatsCheese:Serious question, when was the last time a commercial machine was launched based off of Japanese Intellectual property. I know Capcom made games in the 90s alongside Sega, but I can't think of any Japanes IP past Godzilla, and that machine was licensed off of the American "film".
Great question. Besides Godzilla, you have to go back to Street Fighter II to find a game based off a Japanese IP.
Before that, Super Mario Bros & Mushroom World.
Absolutely bonkers to think that no one has done a proper VIDEO GAME-based release, let alone a game based off any number of the amazing IP that came out of Japan (Metroid, Pokémon, etc)
To go older, the only Japanese IPs I can think that were made into pinball machines are Mr. & Ms. Pac-Man, Baby Pacman, and Space Invaders
Quoted from ultimategameroom:I agree and hope Stern or Spooky release it. It better not be another stripped down the pinball company machine release like the Jetsons ![quoted image][quoted image]
DUDE, OMG! lol
not shocked to hear there are plenty of Woah Nellie's unsold.
Bit more surprised about Spiderman Vault Premium still kicking around.
If Marco just acquired this stock, I sure hope they didn't pay full price for the Transformers and WWE LEs.
But also it just looks better for them to have a wider stock? Maybe they some around so s flashier inventory for the pinball newcomers with money to burn.
Quoted from chuckwurt:I think OPs are just buying them. Maybe only stern army locations. Most of them buy every new stern.
Locations like that, how long do you figure it would be for any random new Stern to make back it's cost?
it should be illegal to post these pinball podcast videos and not just give the 2 sentence summary of what the 20 minute video is. ILLEGAL
Quoted from PinMonk:Gomez isn't stupid. He's seen the prices going crazy over time, and that pin is his baby, so an enhanced Spike LotR vault would be a great success
LOTR would be Stern's chance to do something like a Special Edition LE Vault, and people would buy it.
Quoted from cantbfrank:Also look at the price drop of NIB pins that are being sold a few months after being bought. You are seeing $500-$1000 depreciation on almost new stern pins. Why buy new when you can buy at a discount a few months later.
this has been said a million times before but if you're buying a pinball machine and expecting it's price retention to be different than driving a new car off the lot, you're crazy.
Also Stern doesn't give a shit about secondary markets, outside the market research for their VEs
Quoted from Psw757:I do however think that they should wait like 10 years to do this shit... so it’s 2020 and anything prior to 2010 is game. Vault to me has the meaning of dragging something out of the archives on a new limited basis.
the world is ready for a Wheel of Fortune vault with finished code, especially with Pat Sajak's health issues. (mind you I just read his wiki and had no idea he promoted and funded climate change denialism 
)
Quoted from Digduglus:Is turtles going to have internet connection? What would that be used for beyond code updates? Excited for possibilites
excited for pinball machines to quickly become DDOS proxies and get ransomware locked
since Radiohead and Rage Against The Machine and Nirvana count as classic rock now can we have pinball machines for them?
Quoted from freeplay3:I also think X men le and Avenger le are jockeying for third.
WOAH THERE, I know X-Men LE doesn't go for oodles, but I think it's the best by far out of Avengers, WWE, and TF.
Quoted from Multiballmaniac1:Stern ugh. Make a good pro again. Jeez.
Walking Dead, Deadpool, Iron Maiden, Jurassic Park, they make a few dynamite Pros
Quoted from J85M:Patience, no way the first film was good enough to be the central focus of a pin, but Venom 2 will feature Carnage played by Woody Harrelson, now who wouldn’t love a little Woody hamming up the crazy to 10 in a pin
I was unaware of this casting choice and now I'm delighted.
Venom would make an excellent pin. (well, provided the sequel does good)
John Wick is ready, too. Wonderwoman 1984 looking like a strong contender as well with its 80s soundtrack
Quoted from Sako-TRG:Oh yes.....[quoted image][quoted image]
geez dude I know we're all upset about the playfield quality issues but that's taking stress-testing TOO FAR!
Quoted from mbeardsley:I disapprove of your approval of his acknowledging non-approval of his approval of the opinion.
OK fine, folks, I'll start the paperwork for administrative forms
Quoted from littlecammi:Having no pro version hurt sales volume of Elvira's House of Horrors, but the game is very good and on its way to terrific as Lyman progresses with the code (version 0.92 released yesterday with more to come).
yeah Elvira is probably going to end up totally loved Walking Dead, except much rarer due to the models available. I'm still rooting for BK:SOR to become a sleeper hit like Tron or Iron Man, as the code gets better
how did people even start talking Revenge Of The Nerds? What shitty movies.
Let's get some Turtles leaks.
as always, will come down to the code. Sad they didn't go Eastman & Laird era (but duh of course not) but happy they didn't use the live action movies.
Can't wait to play it. I love pinball.
Quoted from Utesichiban:I’d take Top Gun or Mission Impossible over any of the themes being thrown around the past few days here but guessing they aren’t going to happen or would have already.
If the new Bill & Ted movie pulls in decent numbers I wouldn't put it past the studio to make a new Top Gun
Quoted from zr11990:How about a Elton John pin? How crazy and flamboyant would that be.
He got his Captain Fantastic.
I once again want to point out the tragedy of Liberace not getting his own pinball machine while alive.
Quoted from BMHouze:Bad Cats II
Need I say more.
Bad Cats II: Heathcliff's Revenge
Quoted from BMHouze:If Stern is serious about getting more women in the hobby.
Bad Cats II
No premium, no LE.
Just re-tool some homepin and add all that catty goodness and multiball.
Women everywhere demand Bad Cats II be built like POTCJJP
Quoted from J85M:Not that a modified/updated quicksilver is a bad thing, beatles is super fun it’s the stupid price that killed beatles off. An updated quicksilver with a more reasonable price and Queen will probably sell much better than the bonkers beatles pricing model.
This is my thinking, too. I think Beatles is a great game, just priced stupidly. If they do the QS retheme and have Pro pricing I think it'd be great. (Can Stern learn from the problems of B66 SLE and Beatles Diamond? We'll see)
Yes, some people want Theme X as a cornerstone title, but the same was/is true for Beatles. BUT, I am actually excited at the idea of more classic layouts returning
Quoted from frankmac:It could be bill and Ted on a Iron Man reskin. I think Deadflip was speaking on this at one point.
If they do a re-skin I still think TWD would be the best choice. It's an incredible game, but redo it with a family-friendly theme and an LCD screen and it'd sell well too.
Quoted from BMHouze:Bad Cats II
it's important for us to remind Stern that Bad Cats II is just sitting there, ready to make them millions...
Quoted from BazilBLast:Just give it a multi ball .
It's a Williams game so I don't think Stern would do it + some people would get offended by upskirting of the sexy lady on the back box .
meow meow meow
not a remake, a proper full-feature contemporary sequel. Or at the very least, take The Walking Dead and redo it as Bad Cats II.
Quoted from Roostking:2020. The title alone tells the story and our hero somehow has to defeat Covid19, keep the mom and pop shop open while riots rage and bezos makes another 50 billion in 5 months. 28 ball multiball representing the kids in a classroom! Knock out each kid as a carrier!!
wildfire multiball!
arctic shelves bash target!
Quoted from PinBalt:So what are peoples’ guesses for when we will end speculation and the next new cornerstone for 2020 will be announced? I’m thinking that Sept. 15th is right. Pros in late Sept., LEs in October and Premiums in Nov.
I bet everything's delayed due to backorders due to the pandemic. they have a lot of hits that are probably still all selling very well.
Quoted from mpdpvdpin:What are the chances that this is TOHO GODZILLA? Got my fingers crossed.
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Shin Godzilla was such a good movie. I was so happy that it came to North American movie theatres.
Wonder Woman was a pretty good popcorn flick. Only thing I didn't like was the "boss battle".
WW84 would most likely make a great pin because they could license all the 80s synthpop for the soundtrack.
this is the week where we need an alert that says "Yes, this trending topic actually has new pictures posted" but I think iceman is correct that it'll be nothing until Thursday, as per usual
Quoted from V8haha:The getaway is one of my favorite games. So simple but satisfying. The supercharger is one of the coolest toys.
isn't that just Star Wars Pre/LE? 
Quoted from JWP72:Ghost Rider could be INCREDIBLE as a pinball theme. Minus Nick Cage.
screw you, gimme Nicholas Cage doing all the callouts.
Gimme a Nicholas Cage themed pin and just load it with his career.
I dunno, we're in a pandemic still and demand seems to be high for home entertainment. Stern could easily just wait until 2021 for their next machine and keep producing AIQ, TMNT, ST, JP, EHOH, and the Star Wars comic edition for a few months. That's a pretty great lineup of 6 machines and themes to rest one's laurels on for a tiny bit.
Quoted from SLCpunk2113:Well... it’s official this is the only speculation thread worth visiting.
why, what happened n-OH GOD
Quoted from RikeIsland:How about Portal? You could put in a bunch of subways to simulate portals.
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ahh yes Stern, famous lover of using subways.
Quoted from greenstreet:surprised by the RHCP backlash, think it would be a great pin.
RHCP would be an excellent pin.
Still wish they would move away from rock music though. Tron showed how well electronic music could work, and then TNA raised the bar for soundsystems.
Daft Punk is now old people music, so it's perfect...
Quoted from Quicksilver1:It's been a cool minute since we've had anything hockey related in the pinball world. Anyone else think Slap Shot would be a worthy title, or would a 1977 hockey movie theme be lost on today's consumers?
I'm always shocked there wasn't an NHL pin, but perhaps the license fees are just way too high
Quoted from bloodydrake:Deleted post
My god man do you not understand how much of an impact canning an actor mid-run has? This wasn't some decision taken lightly, your summary is wrong, and we don't need politics OR lying in this thread. This thread is about making people angry by suggesting that we make pins about cheesy 40 year old franchises we half-remember. Now if you'll excuse me it's time to give a passionate defense about why the time is right for a Cannonball Run pinball machine featuring a holographic Burt Reynolds
Quoted from greenstreet:you guys are heated today. i like it.
now let's focus that energy on a Pulp Fiction pin (since 80s movies make terrible pins we must move to the 90s).
Pulp Fiction would sell like crazy, I think more than any other Tarantino theme.
here's a thought: pick a theme that would best penetrate a robust international market. Like, a theme that isn't focused on primarily selling pins to Americans. So, no 20th century American pop films films or boomer/genx rock bands.
League Of Legends
Super Mario
World Of Warcraft
(so many videogame themes)
BTS (biggest popstars on the globe)
Jackie Chan (a career retrospective?)
like, just imagine if South Korea or India developed an affection for pinball equivalent to that of American consumers? Would revolutionize things.
a tony hawk pin would be a great choice, especially considering how the remastered game(s?) were received
Quoted from onemilemore:If we're talking international appeal, you could do worse than LEGO. Pull in from the movies/LEGO Batman. Game flow and objectives, plus toys, write themselves.
Will Arnett on callouts would be legendary.
Via https://twitter.com/DarranMRobinson/status/1361820628592959489?s=19
20210217_084858 (resized).jpg20210217_084900 (resized).jpga Who Framed Roger Rabbit pin would have been amazing. R.I.P. Bob Hoskins. his callouts would have been legendary.
I also would have accepted a Super Mario Bros movie pin with him.
teasers aside, does anyone actually want a BK:SOR vault edition? It's one of the few games where the response at launch was tepid, but then once the code was completed, the result was still tepid.
Quoted from Flaverflav:What about a daft punk Pinball
just vault Tron with the full Daft Punk soundtrack, LCD monitor, and an upgraded sound system. They'd sell so many of them.
Quoted from MJR8peanut:ive been told the puzzle might just be a puzzle
hey just a hunch but I think Stern might just be deliberately fucking with y'all junior detectives.
my hope for Godzilla is that it has a strong crossover appeal and will be part of the growing pinball resurgence in Japan.
Like, maybe also do the callouts and screen text in Japanese and have it configurable? I've been waiting for YEARS for a break-away hit that could do serious numbers in markets like South Korea, Japan, China, etc
Quoted from mpdpvdpin:Another thread goes the way of Boomers hornyposting.
Boomer Hornyposting is pinside's definitive brand
Quoted from mpdpvdpin:I’m just happy that dc2010 is definitely NOT HORNY. Lmao...this is too much. I’m dying. Thanks ya’ll.
Quoted from TigerLaw:K-man says he’s hearing Mandolorian from many, he said it’s a modern theme not a classic and not a rock band. Mando would be awesome.
so close to the Star Wars comic vault? I dunno about that.
It'd still sell like hotcakes though.
Quoted from onemilemore:Past teasers have usually come out earlier in the day than this, so seems like we're probably waiting still.
Friday afternoon press releases are for burying bad news.
Quoted from mpdpvdpin:I once met Elijah Wood while I was working at an Art Supply Store in the Bowery. He was fresh off of LOTR success and he came in all coked out with two very greasy girls on his arm. He was extra rude to my coworker so he went into the office and picked up the intercom and just kept saying “paging my preeeecious...my preeeecious” in the Golem voice, naturally. Well...Wood got so pissed off the he kicked over a rack of moleskin notebooks and stormed out the front door leaving the cocaine twins behind. Then Chuck Close came in on his wheelchair and was rip shit he couldn’t traverse the store due to the moleskin mess. True story. The end. ( Oh, and Elijah Wood was great in the MANIAC remake )
hahaha holy shit that's an amazing story, and with the Chuck Close kicker!
Quoted from rai:[honest trailers video]
6.5 minutes of that schtick? Oh come on! What were they thinking smdh
Quoted from colonel_caverne:Iron maiden, turtle ninja, Led Zeppelin, stranger things, black knight, the munsters...Mandolerian...stern needs to shoot better to grab my money
wait for it... here it comes... Mandoloserian
Quoted from greenstreet:What about Ready Player One?
It has all of the 80s nostalgia.
please god no
Quoted from orlandu81:Can we count this as the teaser?? Christopher Lloyd has been pretty active lately, perhaps a good sign!
my god that man is a delight
Quoted from frankmac:Hopefully Stern let Elwin go nuts on this pin...
hahaha just trying to think what would possible make IMDM/JP/AIQ seem like Elwin's more subtle and understated pins. 
Quoted from screaminr:Batman can suck cock
I would like to read your fanfics please
Quoted from tonyf1965:Catzilla. Can't wait to see pics of real Godzilla.
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got the Run The Jewels soundtrack ready to go for your Catzilla pin!
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:Hoping for a Matrix pin soon. Maybe CGC has this license but new movie by Dec. [quoted image]
Just a perfect theme for pinball. Time to right the wrongs of the past and get a proper Matrix pin made.
Quoted from PinMonk:JJP will not stay limited to just a main and a smaller sub line forever. Moving the whole operation to the new factory and then the pandemic slowed down the transition, but I would not be surprised to see them with 2 full-scale lines up and cranking out pins simultaneously within the next year.
That's the dream, really. I would love it if the market and manufacturers could sustain an annual output of 3 Sterns, a JJP, a CGC remake, a Spooky, and an AP.
I think JJP will eventually get to the one per year rate.
Spooky is one every 1.5 years and I don't see that shifting because they're cautious with growth.
AP is about the same, maybe every 2 years?
CGC, I've ranted about before, but I hope they work up to one remake a year and keep pumping MMR games out as along as the market can absorb them.
But since this is my "dream", that also means the market stays hot enough to sustain this and more and more places adopt pins / the hobby grows further
let's worry about flipping pins in other threads, this is for the GZ hype! Can't wait to see it today. Today, right?
Quoted from Sako-TRG:Grown men asking for Pokemon ?
LOL you're on a board where we obsessively discuss the latest high priced comic book toys. Save us your cultural purity!
Quoted from Sako-TRG:Divorce pending…
my condolences! I recommend not buying any new pins until your paperwork is settled.
Quoted from Pin_Fandango:There are better games to vault than
Yeah like we all know Tron would sell like crazy if it came back, ESPECIALLY with an LCD screen, but I look at what's being manufactured by Stern right now and ask myself why they would bother at this point?
Their games are HITS. They can't keep up with demand. They dropped a cornerstore release this year because sales are so good. Deadpool! Godzilla! AIQ! Jurassic Park! etc some of the best pinballs ever made are being made NOW.
So if I was Stern I'd keep the vault cards close to my chest and wait for the next WWE flop to chum the waters. 
(Ghostbusters would also sell like crazy with an LCD screen, who are we kidding. But my point stands that they just don't have the ability to keep up with the demand for their incredible current games)
Quoted from Ballderdash:Or how about particle man vs triangle man?
We all know how that ends...
Quoted from benheck:Didn't see original until my 30s. Didn't get it. It seemed like The Matrix but done really poorly.
I actually liked the new one more because the plot (while generic boilerplate father son stuff) was more solid.
Tron is a great example of aesthetic dominance. Almost no one talks about how amazing the acting writer direction of Tron movies are.
But holy shit are the games amazing. The aesthetic was so novel and well done that it just translated into other (I would argue more appropriate) mediums so well.
Even the Intellivision games were great.
Quoted from crujones4life:Seriously. The people who keep saying this aren't paying attention. The game is coming. It will have probably everyone but maybe Crispin Glover. Their likeness, their movie scenes, their voices.
I want nothing more than a pin dedicated to Sir Crispin Hellion Glover.
Quoted from screaminr:Good to hear , but I don't consider Fury Road as a Mad Max movie , hopefully the new one being filmed goes back to it's roots .
blasphemy, but I'll let it slide considering you're from Australia... BUT NEXT TIME....
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huzzah! a date! If only we could set a "snooze button" on threads until a given day/time
Quoted from PinStalker:The real problem is Stern being so lazy and only doing two games a year. They need to get back to four and then people will start getting the themes they want.
Fewer games with much higher prices...... that's the Disney-Boy way.
sorry, Stern couldn't hear your advice over the sound of all those Foo Fighters, Godzillas, Deadpools, and Jurassic Parks flying out the door at record speed
Quoted from John_I:If they do another Simpsons, it should be Treehouse of Horrors. Better yet, just do Futurama already (code name BTTF).
Venom is next. Basically an auto pass for me unless the greatest game ever.
The Futurama voice actors would produce some of the best pinball callouts ever
Quoted from PanzerKraken:The idea that they just bought a license and sat on it to let it lapse just cause their designers were like "nah", is silly. There is clearly far more to that story.
You option licenses, I.e. you basically pay to reserve them. It happens all the time with hot books, but most dont get turned into movies or shows, though the author still gets a bit of money for the optioning.
Only when the decision to move to Production is the option activated and that's when the big money is spent.
Quoted from Prince66cali:Here s the thing, Stern makes a good product but they have to stop the price increases and keep supply realistic. During the pandemic, they had shortages and demand doubled. Now supply is high and demand is constant. Just a tip.
On the topic of price, I hate the increases too but if you charts NIB Pro prices against inflation the prices have been reliably consistent. That's just the market Stern exists in, and are not really them conspiring to extract extra profit. That's what LEs and SLEs are for.
Quoted from Grantman:Yeah, now he added Journey, Beastie Boys and Beetlejuice.
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This is a handy way to keep track of the speculation and rumours, thank you.
Only a few IPs that I find truly annoying and so many titles I love where even if only a third of these got made it would be wonderful.
Quoted from TeddyG:Here's the referenced comments from George last year:
Are there any talks / deep dives on the development of Stern's architecture? I love that kind of engineering and iterative design and consideration of future and backwards compatibility.
While I was typing this George Gomez in the video says "those are not sexy decisions, no one wants to focus on them" and I'm like I DOOOOOOOO
Quoted from GoneFishinLvMsg:Doubt there's enough mass appeal for a Slayer. How about Beavis and Butthead
It could have all kinds of 80s heavy metal such as Slayer plus stuff like Beastie Boys and it would be funny as hell.
B&BH would be a killer theme. You could license a tonne of great 90s hard rock and metal for it. Do it up like a Tiny Hawk game with a deep and extensive soundtrack.
King of the Hill would also be a fun theme, and I don't think Barry O's pin even touches on propane and propane accessories.
Quoted from MacGruber:I also heard Gremlins! Meantime, Stern managed to loose both BTTF and Potter. That alone is indefensible. Get better.
When the creator of an IP gets known as a holocaust denier it's probably best to move forward to safer properties. Similar issues for people who pre-ordered a Cybertruck 5 years ago, they didn't know what they were getting into with the CEO and might not want that baggage.
It's just good business sense imho.
Quoted from vikeking27:Or, realistically, most average people who aren't chronically online or 'plugged-in' - live life and buy products that appeal to them, can separate the art from the artist, all that stuff. The average person couldn't give two shits less what Elon Musk says or does if they want a Cybertruck. Same goes with pretty much anything - people still buy Gillette razors and Bud Light.
While you're correct that most people aren't aware of this stuff, you're comparing your examples against things that have real world consequences: violation of laws in Germany, and unsafe vehicles that require a recall. You can't compare that against 2 invented moral panics that only existed in a bubble of terminally online people.
Companies want the best return for their investment, and that will always involve balancing risks.
Quoted from Slappywhite2001:It could even be based on "The Wizarding World," not specifically reference anything from the books or movies, but be chock full of homage and lore. That's basically what the recent, massively successful video game did.
While it would be super cool to take an IP and essentially produce original content for it in the form a pinball machine, I can't imagine that being granted. I think of similarly sized IPs like Star Wars and Mario Bros that have multiple spinoffs and amusement park attractions as comparatively sized, but I'd guess the creative thrust would have to come from the rights-holders alone.
I guess another example would be a Marvel comic book pin that had an original storyline.
Quoted from littlecammi:Not sure if I heard this from Knapp Arcade or not, but Stern may have some new vaults that are mashups of previous pins.
First one out may be The Walking Dead-pool, to be followed by Iron Man-dalorian.
If there is any truth to those rumours I'm draining this thread and never coming back because obviously my knowledge of how licensing works is entirely wrong
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