Want Back to the Future 35th anniversary next. Will do an LE on that one for sure. Wish they would do Harry Potter but will never happen.
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My distributor says not launching game for a bit. Prob 2-3 weeks. My Jurassic park and Star Wars premium got pushed back again. Supposed to have had them by now. Stern is backed up.
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I sell leather belts on bullhidebelts.com and offer a ten year warranty on a $50 belt. People ask why only ten when some do 100 year! Stern sells $8000 machines and basically a year warranty if lucky. I get machines break but need longer warranty period.
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Distributor got list from stern that they are freeing up production in September so could see release late august possibly.
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Quoted from JPloof:Funny how we are on the eve of the next game, but are still awaiting initial production on official accessories from the 'last' game. Where is my Mando art blades and shooter rod stern! Lol.
With this being said, I am still super excited for next weeks Godzilla reveal and also look forward to the manufacturing challenges hopefully being improved in 2022!
Art blades are on eBay.
Quoted from Skyemont:This may have been covered but what are the prices for the Godzilla Pro's, Premiums and LE's?
My guess $6499 / 8200 / 10250
Idk maybe I’m just too young but Rush has like three great songs. Rather have a Black Sabbath or Chicago pin bf them. Big pass.
Link to official owners club. Head to:
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/stern-godzilla-official-owners-club#post-6496362
My mom said her first new car was $15k and that was a camero that would be 50 today. Wait till cars go up $20k more. Everything is nuts. Where are all the workers? $14 to work fast food? Used to work at Wendy’s in 2000 for $5.15 hr.
I have to pay $25 hr to my employees to make belts but at least that’s a skill labor job. Wonder what stern pays. Has to be high.
Quoted from underlord:Should I start kanoodling with a Distro now for a BTTF LE, or just get one for $45 grand scalped?
BTTF le already sold out. I think I’m like 15 on list and been on it years.
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After personally buying three pins in a few month and many people getting Godzilla and Cactus canyon I hope Sterns next one is good or they might not sell well. Many people I think are broke right now lol. Big pass on Rush. Hoping for BTTF but doubt it’s coming. Anyone have an in and knows anything? People called mando and Godzilla way before hand.
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. Heard sterns crew hates building Elvira bc house is a pain. Maybe why they get rid of it or raise price a lot.
Quoted from hiker2099:When I listen to the podcast it sounded like it was going to be a $25K machine. Just my thoughts.
My guess is only a Premium plus model format like Elvira with lowest model $12k for the license. LE will need to be expensive or will sell out quick. I have an entire room of BTTF signed props and images so I'm totally in on an LE.
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If you haven’t seen muse live do it. I’ve seen some of the best bands of all time and muse was the best concert performance I’ve ever seen. Would buy a muse pin.
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Quoted from mpdpvdpin:TMNT is an excellent game and in a room with some of the best and most recent sterns including Godzilla Deadpool Stranger Things Jurassic Park Etc it out earns them ALL every single week. So…in my eyes…as an operator…yeah, it’s a hit.
For an operator tmnt sells but I’m wondering in home setting if I should get one. I have most the top games and it scares me this pin is sold so much and doesn’t sell for premium normally a lose used. Le is not crazy expensive like others. Love tmnt growing up. Pro tmnt only lasted 6 months at my local bowling alley bf he got rid of it.
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Quoted from Spatacuulous:Have it on prettttty good authority that Sterns next pin is "Oscars Slap" (Pictured below)
Slap Happy Edition (Basic) $8999 - Ice pack on cheek Topper
Fresh Prince Limited Edition $10,999 - Carlton shooter rod
GI Jane 2 Collectors Edition $16,000 - Bald as a pinball
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Slap save the ball. Kind of wish this would blow over. It’s everywhere
Quoted from bigguybbr:I had one. It’s great but it’s tough. I traded mine for an AIQ after 18 months or so
I have a aiq premium coming in a few weeks. Prob better.
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Muppets are so outdated now. My kids didn’t even care when we took them to the 3d muppets show at Disney.
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Idk Munsters is my wife and kid’s favorite and you see I have all the top games. It’s easy to learn which is a plus for them.
Talked to one distributor this morning. They don’t know anything but said many are calling about venom. We will see.
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Eminem’s new album is pinball themed would have been great to launch an actual pinball with the album.
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Hearing 11500 le price estimate. I believe I secured one. Toy story screwed us on the massive increase. Many dealers already sold out with lists a mile long.
Quoted from Pinball_Syd:To all of our friends from the subcontinent of the Americas (North America, South America, Central America, Caribbean).
You think you are paying prices through the nose now from recent spikes and hikes, compounded by shortages, delays, supply chain issues and reduced availability for new pins?
Here in the land down under and most probably our Kiwi neighbours too, are very accustomed to being price gouged in every orifice you could ever name, through causes ranging from our geography, shipping costs, exchange rates, inflation, under supply, high demand, a plandemic, trends and hype!
Our local suppliers in Sydney do everything they can to keep prices in check and our number 1 local supplier of Stern, AMD, have always done and continue to do everything they can to boost supply and stagnate costs, all while providing an amazing customer experience, service and support. Big shout out to the whole team at AMD! Thank you.
So if you think you guys at HQ, home base, the land of the Big Kahunas Burgers, are haemorrhaging now, then try swallowing the going rate here for preowned Pros, Premiums and LE’s, which is averaging anywhere between AU$22-30K for the more desired titles, only to land someone else’s preloved, second hand - could be mutton dressed up as lamb - hand me downs
Can we also (or Stern actually) put a stop to this stupidity of only manufacturing 500x LEs (of which 20-30x land down under) and opportunists who aren’t really supporters of this hobby but are rather looking for an opportunity to make a quick buck through ripping some poor bastard off in the process. NIB, less than four weeks old, you know who you are!
If there’s been an exponential increase of around 400% customer base globally over the last decade, evidently so from reading between the lines, why can’t Stern up the volume with LE’s like JJP?
Toppers… let’s not go there. I think I had to scrap an annual holiday and pawn a family heirloom, just to consider buying one recently. The topper will become the new family heirloom!
This is edging toward more of a rant than anything else and while I’m busily throwing the neighbours Cat amongst the Pidgeon’s, separating wallabies from big reds, can we have the announcement soon please.
Yeah we travel a lot and Australia is the most expensive place to go. Make it over to your area when the kids are older.
Already got an email from one distributor stern is going up but said they don’t know how much yet. They are $500 over msrp plus shipping. Prob 12500-13000 for le all in. I have a line on one at msrp hopefully so should be better.
Quoted from Roostking:UH OH!!!
Did this never happen? Notice the dial is pointed to OFF on the dial.
We have been lied too!
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The on off is for toggle on side. Not sure what dial does but look good.
Yeah jjp did it with ts. One model. Issue is arcades that can’t afford the prem or don’t want mechs.
I always go le. They hold value much better bc premiums are a dime a dozen. Every time I’ve sold a premium still in production I lost a ton. Avengers I took a bath on. Of course that was before the huge price increase so who knows now.
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Quoted from redman822:As stated multiple times in this thread, pinball machines are not the only thing where prices have jumped. Those aren't even the 'best' seats at that price. If I had to guess, I would guess beltking is in the balcony for a non-weekend and/or a matinee show.
First row of balcony Thursday. Lower close are like 1000-1200 each!!!
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I was in on venom le but not sure now at 13k. Would pay that for ozzy. When is bond le on line it’s been a while and no pros out.
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I’d be up for a ghostbusters vault. Hope they make flipper gap standard. Reissue the topper again. Some will be pissed about this devaluation of theirs.
Quoted from crujones4life:With BTTF coming soon I am wondering if anyone is planning on making some Crispin Glover mods to add him into the pin? Maybe a Crispin Glover shooter lane sticker ala Gina Carano on Mando? How will we get our Crispin Glover fix?!
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If you do a figure you have to have a box for him to stand in.
Worked at Wendy’s 6 yrs through high school. Still get nightmares about it. One of the shittiest jobs there is. They deserve $20 hr.
5.50 hired in 1999 ended at $7.15.
Med frosty was 99 cents now over $2
Should’ve worked elsewhere but if I didn’t work there my next boss wouldn’t have heard about me, wouldn’t have learned website design with him and start my belt empire that affords me pins. Worked out perfect I guess.
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Quoted from BasementFacts:I'm 42 and have been working since 15 years old. I have shitty work experiences too, with a success story at the end. Funny how working hard and testing yourself prepares you for seizing opportunities that may come in the future. I'm looking at the inflation calculator, and what I was paid in shitty jobs between 1995-2002 is still below $15/hr in today's money. Soooo..... *shrug*. The "living wage" argument is lost on me. I'm not trying to raise a family at 15 years old living with my mom lmao. I woulda been dead at 15.
yeah truth. I worked with normal employees not managers at 35-50 yrs old most divorced but still at $6 an hr? Looking back I don't think they had the brains to do anything else.
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Only bands I can think of dropping 13k on an le is Ozzy and Muse. I like Foo fighters but now at 13k idk.
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Yeah had an avengers prem and hated it. Sold for a lose. Should have listened to my gut when I played at the arcade. Ramps are fun.
Quoted from Jaytech10:Several distros have bond LEs still. Either the price is too on not a popular theme.
Its price. At $13k your buying pool goes down. Even more at $20k so its best when restoring to make it look nice but don't make it so nice that you take a bath on resale. Some with a home renovation. They may have issues if the next IP's are not as popular with 1000 LE's at $13k price. I don't think I will do it for Venom and Foo Fighters if those are coming out.
HP is a Dream theme for our family idk what you’re talking about but kids of all ages love HP. Shits on Tv non stop. If I’m going to pay 20-25k for a limited pin it’s Harry Potter.
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I like foo fighters but at current pin prices, pass unless it’s insanely awesome. Le is just too much and seems to drop in price afterwards now. Have to be picky on theme now but used to buy everything new. At 10k le I’d be in.
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Quoted from crujones4life:Did somebody say Back to the Future?![quoted image][quoted image]
I know the next 6 games and not bttf unfortunately. I can’t say anything else so don’t ask but not bttf.
Quoted from Pinplayer1967:Bullshit
Nope I have an inside friend. Can tell you the mando topper is $1500 wholesale and rush is 1300. No bullshit.
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I just got a ghostbusters le with topper. Paid a ton for it. Doubt they’d remake it just too expensive to produce. I hope not. I don’t mind the gap like i thought I would.
They will get the stranger things license back. Actively working on it now from what I heard. They know it will sell a ton since prem machines are at 14k. Sell yours now before they make more.
I’m getting emails so to be clear I don’t know the vault. I just meant that stern is trying to get the stranger license back to do more down the road but doesn’t mean it will happen.
Main reason for no stranger is the projectors per one of my distributors they have had issues and hard to get them in stock. Expensive to replace under warranty. I could see a new prem but with decals like the pro and maybe new magnet lock fix maybe.
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Next game is 100% venom. You will choose a character at the beginning like tmnt. Also some marvel people like captain America and hulk are in it. Guy seen it says didn’t want venom but it’s bad ass.
It’s a venom version of hulk and captain America and one more I forget. Idk but my guy said theme sucked for him but when he saw it he wants one. Kind of like foo was whatever but then the layout kicked ass. New mechs never done before and no I’m not just making shit up. Has metal spinning piece that can change ball path quickly.
What I said is all I know. If believe my source and that it will be bad ass. I think stern knows it has to be when theme is just whatever at their $10k prices.
Quoted from Kkoss24:So the guy with the news on having the Avengers as hosts was spot on !! Great job dude I’ll be following you from now on
Yeah I wasn’t bullshitting.
Also save up for Elwin’s next there will be a surprise.
Quoted from NoSkills:When do we find out msrp?
Same as now but think Elwin will see an increase.
There is no BTTF in the pipeline and this from someone who has at least $40k in signed BTTF props and such. HUGE Fan and #1 dream theme for me. Elwin is on Jaws with an SLE of around 50. Can't wait to see that price.
I'm moving so probably going to start selling off some of my BTTF signed stuff if anyone is interested. Prefer local to Ohio sale because its a ton of stuff. I kind of know Lloyd and Wilsons (Biff) manager since I've bought a shit ton of signed stuff from him. He said no on a pin that he knows of and that was about a year ago. Now if he's under and NDA maybe but I doubt highly its going to happen anytime soon. I just hope at least someone is getting Lloyd callouts recorded for the future. Fox's voice is unfortunately going downhill and sometimes hard to understand currently. Maybe a sound a like with his permission would work for a few callouts.
I'm waiting for #2 theme to come out and that is the man in black himself the killer Mr....
I’m prob out on venom and wanted an le. Wife gonna kill me if I get it. Got like 5 games in the last two months with a lot on order.
Anyone want a Toy Story ce so I have some venom money?
Quoted from Utesichiban:I'm pretty much done with NIB save maybe a well done BTTF. Venom? Distributors are going to be sitting on 600+ LE's if Stern still thinks they can move 1000 on mediocre (at best) themed pins of this nature.
Yeah I’m worried about venom. I hope I’m wrong but didn’t like the art design in the trailer.
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I got four sets of speaker boxes from speaker lights and upgraded my pro and prem pins to same speakers as the le. Soooo much nicer now
Quoted from mbl1116:Maybe beltking can weigh in, his source has been pretty good lately
Jaws is Elwin with SLE. Heard nothing on vault idk if that will happen. No idea on next music pin.
Jaws and Mario, and Pokémon
Yeah Indy is correct but he man is so yesterday. I grew up on that and the toys but I don’t see it. Too many better themes in the works.
If you’re going to ask 10-13k for a machine you can’t go with cheapest license but one that’s popular and will sell.
My guy called it on hulk and capt America versions of venom. Jaws is next with Elwin unless vault is first. Idk vault.
Traded my loaded Munsters prem b&w with rare topper for a venom le. I thought that was a fair trade. About same money.
Quoted from Vino:Ready for what’s next after Venom.
Bring on some A list stuff to fan the flames Stern!
It’s Elwin jaws.
Quoted from lftwng4:I would love it if Stern were to re-release "classic" pinball machines from the 80s, like Stargazer, Seawitch, et al. But make 'em affordable, call them "Classics from the Vault" series or something, sell them for around 5k each? I dunno, better than re-theming them as the Beatles or something.
Haggis is doing that still $10-11k
Yep I heard jaws will have price increase and prem/le/ sle at 50. If they raise prices it will be Elwin pin. Hopefully doesn’t happen.
Quoted from Pastor69:Bttf - big yes
Harry Potter- big yes
He-man - lukewarm
Indiana Jones - big yes
Jaws - lukewarm
Ozzy - ? No clue who it is
The Goonies - Think i have seen the movie once when I was really young but hell no
The Matrix - big yes
The Witcher - ?
Top Gun Maverick - big yes
Venom - lukewarm
Stern has matrix and Indiana license so two out of your big yes list. Wish they’d do maverick as well.
Yeah do it like jjp launch with topper. If you don’t like it then you know you need a mod version cheaper. Stern would make more at least by showing accessories up front.
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Quoted from Rolls-Royce:1,000 that’s too many… should be 500 LE and 100 SLE in my opinion.
Belt, did you hear when in 2024?… (or 2025 perhaps)
Jaws is next Elwin don’t know time prob Jan. Sterns not going down from 1000 especially on Elwin pin.
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Not sure unless pull a Batman with no pro. Make you pay up for Elwin. Sle is what I’m hearing and low numbered.
Been trying to get Metallica head decals for two years. Don’t exist. Stern doesn’t stock. Lucked out today and found someone clearing out old parts they had.
Stern has the Pokémon license. I just don’t get that whole thing but know some of those cards go for millions. You know post mallone will get one. Has the most expensive card ever made. In middle school my friend had a $1000 lotus card and thought he was nuts. Like the most expensive card back then prob 1996. His mom was a stripper and got him cool shit like a $300 yo-yo. Lotus Worth a ton now. Who knew.
Watch them make more stranger pros instead of premiums. I was told too many projector issues and getting those in stock.
I’m 99% sure they are doing more stranger premiums but with new art this time. Gonna be a while yet prob a year at least.
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you guys are right on stranger run but dealers don’t know shit yet. They are just hearing it’s happening soon.
Per my guy it’s a shit ton of pros first for locations. Build is in Nov. then premium with no limits. Shit ton of allotment on it not limited by any means. Maybe new projector. Same pricing as venom. Running toppers and uv kits again for them.
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People not in the know ask me all the time when they see mine… “are they still making pinball machines?”. When I tell them they are surprised they made that many this year. Then they want one until I tell them the prices. “Well what can I get for like $1000?” You can get that topper right there lol .
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You think Elwin Jaws will sell out right away like his last?
Kind of depressing seeing le machines listed not even a month old at $1500-2000 less than retail. Shit has changed. JP 30th le would have sold out immediately a year ago and sold more than $13k used. Some ads at $11500 already.
I’m hoping it’s all new they would sell more to people like me that love their loaded pro. Rather not have to sell mine to buy new if better.
My Elvira 40th was supposed to have exclusive 199 made shooter rod. I guess not they made 500 more for the new version. Kind of done with les at this point. Stern messed that all up.
My guy thinks 90% they are going to have an ultra black knight SOR pin version soon. Hopefully doing toppers but not sure. A lot of parts just came back in stock.
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Dutch will kill it they did amazing with tbl and it’s loaded but waits going to suck. Gotta ramp up production and also get more distribution.
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Quoted from Mylstar:I was watching a Modern Marvels episode about nostalgic toys and part of that episode showed the Stern factory. I saw this in the background
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That’s Godzilla code name and old episode.
Just saying but I said black knight a month ago and no one believed me.
Need a new run of Star Wars toppers but do C-3PO head like black knight and we will be talking.
Quoted from Tres:This is worth repeating. I was a dedicated LE buyer but I’m out on any future LE’s. I’m sure Bond Goldfinger LE is right around the corner.
I’m kind of there with you. Just get a prem and save or used le cheaper later. Main thing I miss is mirror backglass.
Love a new Star Wars le run with different topper. Love my new pro but need to upgrade down the road.
Already confirmed new run next yr maybe will do another le.
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Quoted from Grantman:I have to say that other companies like Spooky are offering a great value compared to Stern. I have no idea about the code or gameplay, but the Looney Tunes CE has everything that a Stern LE has plus a Topper, Powder Coated Speaker Grills, Integrated RGB Speaker Lights, Laser Cut Side Rails, Powder Coated Coin Door, Illuminated Flipper Buttons, Physical Knocker, Powder Coated Habitrails, Fluorescent Plastic Protectors, and Additional Magnetic Decal Art Pack (Lockdown Bar Action Button, Bill Door Plate, and Apron).
They have everything an LE has plus a lot of extra stuff for $9700 vs. a $13k Stern. I hope these other companies force Stern to up their game (because I doubt they are going to lower their prices).
[This is not an ad for Spooky. I'm just really tempted to get one while I wait for BTTF. As usual, I wish I had more room and money.]
I agree but in this shit market these companies need to show gameplay video with sounds day one like we are just now getting with Elton. Crazy expensive to buy with no actual video of looney tunes sounds or clips to show gameplay. I’m interested but waiting.
They need to get some popular titles for their prices because things aren’t moving and lately even 13k machines drop to 10 with under 100 plays. Elwin maybe exception.
I’ve been on many cruise ships and no pins were found. Just shit arcade room with normal stuff. Wouldn’t stay level.
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This will stir things up but an insider told me the next games including Elwin’s. Def get Jaws if you like Elwin bc next game idk if it will be popular.
X-men 97
Yeah I know. Guy hasn’t been wrong yet. If you search me you’ll see I posted about Pokemon a long time ago and everyone said no way. Now it’s the current thing. Also told me layout of venom way before launch and he was correct so he’s got an in.
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Watched matrix just in case the other day. It’s okay but didn’t hold up as well as I thought it would. Not a theme for me. John wick 100%
$12-18 an hr labor compared to $6-7 back in the day when I worked at Wendy’s. Still have nightmares worst job ever.
Quoted from Grantman:Is this still happening? There were a couple of rumors last year then nothing. I though the last movie was fine but the pinball was supposed to based on Raiders of the Lost Ark.
Thats what I heard ij is soon maybe next. It’s not the new movie it’s the old stuff.
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Need to go back to 500 le and maybe 100 for Elwin or 750 for huge licenses.
Love to get a John wick but not lose $3k opening the box up.
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Stern does have Mario I’m told. Hoping danger is on that one but prob in Pokemon. They do have a PlayStation kind of title but forget what he said… it wasn’t halo it was more a shooter metal gear game but forget. That was like a year ago so prob dropped it. Resident evil would be cool. Def getting Mario and wick when they come out.
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Okay here is the down low...
Stranger UV kits Stern ran out of metal aprons so half are backordered.
Next Stern is Borg and Indiana Jones (90% accurate IMO)
Danger after on John Wick
Then Eddie but don't know what he is on. I'm hearing Call Of Duty. Was hearing Mario but now Mario info has gone cold.
Metallica is end of year on Spike 3 with same exact layout but new cab art and so on.
April will be mainly Jaws machines such as Pro and Premium on the line. The delay on Jaws le was because of the decals.
Please no PM's about this, this is all I know currently.
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New stern should be close we still don’t know what it is for sure? Last new we knew. I guess wick is top choose currently but I heard Indiana jones a while back was in the works so idk.
You think wick will sell all the LEs like jaws at 1000? I love wick but I’m going to prob hold off in hopes of getting one cheaper later. Losing 3k isn’t worth it anymore. I don’t play one pin enough. Hoping for a $12k le price maybe but doubt it.
yeah I so want a Wick but I have to tell myself to wait. It's probably going to be cool and hard to hold off. I waited on Looney Tunes and saved $700. Going from 13k to 10k isn't cool for a home used game with 100 plays. If you just had a few machines and played them thousands of times it's whatever but I don't with a large collection.
Can get NIB avengers for $8k now. They need to adjust prices but probably won't on the new stuff.
Quoted from EaglePin:Yeah, and another factor besides the price itself is the huge expansion in the gap between prices for Prem & LE. For Godzilla the LE was $1,500 more than premium. Now the price gap between Prem & LE is $3,300. I usually liked the LE art packages and really liked the mirrored back glass so $1,500 was worth it to me to get LE instead of premium. But with a $3,300 spread it's now just not worth it to me anymore.
Especially since they started running "new" LE versions and doing things like they did on Foo where the accessory art blades they sell are the same as the ones on the LE's. Why get the LE if they're just going to sell more LE's or if they're going to sell some of the LE items like the art blades and shooter rods separately?
Yeah bond 60th owners had to be pissed on that. Sterns gotta read pinside and see these comments and adjust. Prob going to take a theme where sales are horrible for them to adjust prices.
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