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*~*THE~NEXT~STERN*~*

By frankmac

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Post #33984 Stern's new factory information Posted by Grantman (1 year ago)

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#4578 4 years ago

How about a jaws with a lower playfield that rivals Black Hole

4 months later
#6857 4 years ago
Quoted from KnockerPTSD:

Oh yeah, whatever happened to CGC Cactus Canyon?

It will be announced at Texas

11 months later
#13473 3 years ago
Quoted from Psw757:

Gary recently said on podcast that current production is around 75 per day. Back when Covid lockdowns started they were less than 50.
Prior to Covid it was around 100.

I do believe Gary inflates these numbers. Keep in mind if they're averaging a 100 machines a day, here's the math of Sterns top line revenue. 52 weeks a year, multiply that by 5 days a week=260 total days. That means they'd be making 26,000 machines a year at an average sale price (rounding down to $5,000)=top line revenue at Stern of $130,000,000.

I'm going to share with you some numbers from 2019, keep in mind this is not 2020 numbers so sales could be up but I doubt top line revenue is up more than 20%.

Stern took out a PPP loan in 2020 that would have been off of 2019 payroll number. Their loan was $1,850,000. This would have been for 2.5 times of average monthly payroll (1,850,000 divided by 2.5)=monthly payroll of $740,000.

Then take the $740,000 and multiply it by 12 months so you'll get annual payroll of $8,800,000. Keep in mind this should include benefits (401k) because Illinois is a state that requires 401k for employers that have over 25 employees. Granted Stern doesn't have to match anything in the 401k but I doubt they wouldn't. In this case, let's just assume they don't so annual payroll expenses will remain at the $8,800,000.

Most manufacturing run around 30-40% of payroll expenses. I have to assume making pinball is very manual so this would drive up the number. If we went in the middle at 35% (you take the 8,800,000 divided by 35%)=top line revenue around 25,000,000. If you're at the low end of 30% expenses it puts it around a 30,000,000. Far less than a 130,000,000.

#13481 3 years ago
Quoted from Psw757:

It’s speculation about the next game title not the finances of the company.
Anyone can spew out a bunch of numbers but I think that post was so deep into the weeds with a bunch of incorrect data.
The whole math problem is off by the third sentence because it’s widely known they don’t produce games 52 weeks a year or 260 production days annually.

It should be fairly accurate. The math isn't complicated at all. There's a few variables but the payroll number (expense) is a hard number that you can back into the rest very easily.

#13484 3 years ago
Quoted from V8haha:

PPP loans are for more then just labor. It’s for all expenses rent/mortgage utilities and labor.

You are somewhat correct. You can use the proceeds to pay for rent, utilities/etc. For the loan to be 100% forgiven the company had to use 60% of the proceeds towards payroll and the other 40% could be used for what you mention above. But the calculation to determine how much of a PPP loan you received was strictly off of monthly payroll with benefits.

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#13875 3 years ago
Quoted from cpr9999:

Just got artwork from insider of new game.....

How’s it look

1 month later
#15386 3 years ago
Quoted from Hypercoaster:

No, it was not weird, for $300 you can get Elijah Wood to say almost anything via Cameo. And Stern has nothing to do with the TWIPYS.

I thought the same thing

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#20974 2 years ago
Quoted from KYLEDM5:

If true, I hope Stern severely punishes Cointaker.

Why should they be seriously punished???? IMO that’s an idiotic statement. There’s no harm, everyone knows it’s Godzilla and I’m guessing knowing Cointaker’s Impeccable reputation it was just overlooked. That mentality is the sue everyone mentality. Maybe your Robert Mueller in disguise

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#43752 3 months ago
Quoted from Pinball-Cruiser:

If that is the real LE (and I doubt it is), I think the side armor looks like crap. Stern and Elwin can do better than that.

It’s the real limited edition and if you doubt it, please hit me up via a private message and let’s place a $10 gentleman wager

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