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Quoted from TechnicalSteam:Totally stoked for the new Stern Tech. Plan on adding it to all my games.
Think Godzilla , Goonies, Loki, Jaws or BTFF would just break Supply Chain .
Unless Stern's got that issue worked out... Wonder if they expanded if they could catch up
if all those issues were a mute point.
JAWS .....pleeeeeeeeaaaaaassseeee stern make this happen!
Quoted from TechnicalSteam:Totally stoked for the new Stern Tech. Plan on adding it to all my games.
Think Godzilla , Goonies, Loki, Jaws or BTFF would just break Supply Chain .
Unless Stern's got that issue worked out... Wonder if they expanded if they could catch up
if all those issues were a mute point.
Agreed I feel the same about it!
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Quoted from mikepmcs:Looks very cool. Congratulations to everyone getting one. Awesome!
I really like Jeremy's art as well. I know nothing about Godzilla but this type of style is attractive to me when looking at pinball machines. (ghostbusters,tmnt)
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Mike
Aye chief!
Quoted from xyntec:I think the game looks amazing, and has some really nice toys too, love the steel ramps, multilevel building and collapsing bridge.
I know nothing about Toho but the game visually looks great to me, prefer the comic art over anything else (SW comic also looked way better).
Only thing that probably is going to annoy me is the music and monotone voice, hope it is kept to a limit and more focused on the effect sounds.
Hope that reservation for an LE comes through, if not then a premium will do, the grey armor paint doesn't look that special anyway.
They can always add/change some of that with updates. Agreed love the comic style to this!
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Quoted from craif:Stern seems intent on developing ~3 cornerstones year + special projects and they have no trouble selling out their entire production capacity + vaults if needed. As long as that is their model the size of the fan base for a specific theme doesn't matter as much as cost for the ip and how it overlaps other active licenses. Pins are expensive, large durable goods. Few are willing & able to buy every single one even if they are all perfect dream themes.
When Stern picks a theme over something that seems obvious it's because that's not the goal. They're asking "Does this IP have enough demand to sell out a few runs before the license runs out and what other sales is it going to cannibalize?" If they overestimate demand it ends as WWE/Beatles. If they underestimate demand they just slot in another run. Multiple niches cover many more customers than a generic target buyer.
When I bought IMDN friends were happy for me but clearly thought I was crazy. Rush doesn't do anything for me but I'm out of the market for awhile anyway. Over the weekend I mentioned it was likely up next and one of those friends immediately reacted in a way I can only describe as "Shut Up And Take My Money." I'm happy for him and saving a seat in asylum.
I have a Maiden GOTG and Golden tee golf in the basement. EVERYONE goes right to the IMDN. Everyone.....
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Quoted from PinMonk:Could be a great theme. There's so much potential content. It could be played out like a hex-based strategy game, where you can win-lose battles, which changes what's available to you, and if you lose too many battles, it's game over. Because of the win-lose dynamic that affects what's going on in the war at large, each game would be a little different. I could see it being a great pin, and Nazis are great bad guys, so as long as you don't get into the details of their wartime atrocities and bum people out, they're a great foil to energize players.[quoted image]
That's an awesome idea, like a push forward on the battlefield if you win , if you lose you lose ground. Or whatever......so much potential!
Quoted from screaminr:I think it would make a great theme . This is the thread I started 3 years ago .
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/would-world-war-ii-make-a-good-theme
I would even break it down to titles like , The Western Front , D-Day , Pearl Harbour , Pacific War , ect .
You could pick which side you wanted to play as , have a four player game and see who conquers the most countries .
But you will have the usual group of people saying , that you're having fun at the expense of people who died and you are insensitive .
It's funny how no one blinks an eye if it's a video game like Medal of Honour or Call of Duty but if it's a pinball machine suddenly you're an evil prick .
I like that a lot, before you play you pick your battle. Honestly though, why hasn't this been done before being the age of most of us who own and buy these things? You would THINK it would be a great hit with most of us! right?
Quoted from screaminr:It's funny how no one blinks an eye if it's a video game like Medal of Honour or Call of Duty but if it's a pinball machine suddenly you're an evil prick .
Is that really how it goes around here? Please tell me no.
Quoted from screaminr:Have a look through my old thread , I remember there being some pretty negative comments .
I love your avatar , we used to call my stepfather Klyuts
Ugh! smh......
haha yeah I still remember seeing Flash Gordon in the theatres as a kid!
Quoted from shaub:The big issue I see is that a theme like WW2 would probably need to take itself pretty seriously and there wouldn't be a lot of room for "fun" callouts or anything. I kind of feel like the gameplay options for such a theme would work quite well but the overall experience would tend to, and almost need to, feel much too somber for a fun game.
Eh, I would look at it like a Call of Duty game like screaminr said. If nobody had any "fun" there wouldn't be endless amounts of board games or video games associated with this like there are.
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Quoted from Pin_Fandango:I just watched Jaws for the 900th time but I think it had been at least 25 years since I saw it last… still holds up well, of course it is dated but they did an excellent job. It is a good classic let’s say.
I dont know how well it will translate into a modern pinball sonce there isnt really a lot to go off rules wise, but it can be fun I think.
A JAWS would be the only thing to maybe make me think about getting rid of my Iron Maiden.
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Quoted from PaulCoff:Blade was the movie that saved Marvel Studios.
https://www.indiewire.com/2019/05/marvel-mcu-blade-wesley-snipes-video-1202131077/amp/
Blade pinball please.
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Blade 2 is still my favorite Vamp movie. A pin would be great!
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Quoted from RA77:There is a lot to be optimistic about with Stern Pinball
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugene_Jarvis
Love Jarvis’s games since I was a kid. Still do.
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Quoted from screaminr:Don't know why it hasn't been done lately , it's a no-brainer .
I can picture Kong grabbing and throwing a couple of balls across the Playfield T-Rex Style .
Yes! like Mary Shelly's Frankenstein monster! I miss that game , my first pinball in my home.
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Quoted from freeplay3:I agree. After several versions of Starwars pinballs, the lack of Jawas is rather disturbing. Why must they be excluded all the time. Even C3PO distespected them in a new hope.
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Agreed! they are totally misrepresented! Smh....
Quoted from DiabloRush:In the latest Stern Factory Friday video (https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=403944975056820) you can see the underside of a playfield in the background (roughly 0:15 mark) that I can't place. It appears to have 2 or 3 subways, and is clearly not a Star Wars playfield. Here's a few screen grabs. Excuse the low res, it's the best I could capture. First pic is mystery PF; second is a SW PF from the same video.
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If I squint reeeeeaaaaalllly hard I can see a shark and a boat named ORCA.
Quoted from Three60in:Stern definetly needs to get hooked up with Nintendo there are multiple licences tbey could run
- mario
- zelda
- mariokart
- donkey kong
- Pokemon ( fun fact this is currently the largest IP)
How many 30-60 year old's are going to buy a Pokemon machine? ...Wait DONT answer that, I don't want to know.
Quoted from pch3727:Pokemon started in the late 90's, so people that are now 30ish were the original demo. And Pokemon never left the mainstream. It would be a HUGE game if ever made.
I suppose so, I mean I get the nostalgia factor them.
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Quoted from mpdpvdpin:This would make such an epic pin. But Stern would never touch it. If you havnt seen it I highly recommend it. One of the best films I’ve seen in a long time and it is beyond badass.
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Cool movie but the trailer seemed to make it seem there was more action than there actually was. I like the " mood" of this movie, almost reminded me of Valhalla Rising. Almost...
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Quoted from oneballjab:For the love of God people, please shut the F##k up about Back to the Future.
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Quoted from Vespula:This is good! Relatively speaking, How expensive could this cult classic license really be? On a scale of 1 to 10 where 10 is the most expensive one ever bought, 1 the least, is it a 3? And that just makes me wonder if anyone knows what actually was the most expensive license in pinball?
My bets on Bond.
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Quoted from pinmister:At first I thought IJ? Movie coming out-hell yea! then I had another thought-Avaturd! Doh!
As much as everyone says its not happening, I'm hoping its Ghostbusters. New movie for that is coming also!
Quoted from pinmister:Well if we are talking about SAM-Ghostbusters is Spike
May be a vault Ghostbusters? But if I had to guess I would guess Avaturd. SAM game not well received-new movie just released, new Disney dude at the helm-it all adds up
Ah you're right, ........disregard.
Kills me though I missed the boat on GB. Now they are at a price out of my reach.
Quoted from screaminr:Well , old school Godzilla's are .
The younger crowd are into claw machines and shooting games .
When they eventually get bored of those they might find pinball , but probably through friends and family with a pin in their house .
Kind of agree, I have a daughter and 8 nieces and nephews only 3 of them love the pinball machines. And 2 REALLY love them , enough to create an IC ID to log in with. We just need enough to keep carrying the torch!
Quoted from screaminr:Curious , how did they discover pinball , through an arcade or you .
Me , I had a Bride of Pinbot in my house for years. The the last couple of years I got very lucky and have 3 games now. Now I have the full blown disease and cant look back.
Quoted from screaminr:I've watched quite a few YouTubers going to arcades and they point out the claw machines , push machines and stuff like the Jurassic Park shooter games . Then they will say" oh there's a row pinball machines down the back " and won't even go and look at them . Even if you had a Pokemon pinball they wouldn't even be bothered to go check it out .
Like PinMonk pointed out , twitch is probably the best way to reach the younger crowd .
yeah, we went to a waterpark with the kids this past September upstate NY , they had a HUGE arcade but it was all redemption games! I was like what the hell?!? So I yelled at clouds for 5 minutes then went and drank a beer.
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Quoted from BW1029:Have been a longtime casual player and now a new owner of a Bond Prem. I'm already hooked and am plotting on what my 2nd machine should be(pending wife approval of course). Honest question though with all this discussion about themes. I appreciate a good theme but how do you weight theme vs layout/playability. I know its ultimately personal opinion but it feels like such a hard decision when committing to one game to own and play vs. feeding quarters wherever my heart desired.
I started buying games over a little over a year ago and bought games dependent on themes. The more games I play and try the more I'm finding out I like games more for different reasons. I recently got SW Pre. and enjoy that the most so far out of all my games just based on the speed and flow alone.
Quoted from Heatmiser:We'll see, but I'm not the biggest fan of fast pins and that would be my reason for going Prem
...for me at least, it's all about the flow
Isn't fast and flow the same? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just I'm just curious as what other people think. I feel they kind of mean the same thing to me. Like they "go together" as far as pins go. Premium on this looks awesome.
Quoted from Heatmiser:Pinball is subjective at the end of the day...
Of course! I was just wondering. Star Wars has both the flow and fast speed I've been loving lately. I hear RUSH Pro is like that also. I have only played the premium.
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Quoted from SantaEatsCheese:Back the the Future 40th anniversary. 2025. Joe Kamikow Game. Franchi Art
Speculation and sauce from Knapp arcade and replay.
https://www.knapparcade.org/post/joe-kaminkow-elected-to-coin-op-hall-of-fame-hint-about-a-future-stern-pinball-title
https://www.replaymag.com/joe-kaminkow-in-first-coin-op-hall-of-fame-class/
Nice! So are we all still speculating a JAWS 50th anniversary release? Man i sure hope so....
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Quoted from screaminr:Gomez also said he was offered Big Trouble In Little China but he said he didn't know what to do with it ( or words to that effect )
With Beetlejuice and BTILC they passed on two of the most requested Titles , .
Really?? smh....
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Quoted from Slogan1111:I'm in on Elwin Jaws. It's wife approved already which greatly helps the situation. Quote. "We'll figure out a way to get it."
I got the same thing from my wife. We can fit ONE more downstairs, and that is going to be it!
Quoted from screaminr:Just joking Rolls
I'm sure they will have full assets , with all the actors , film clips with voices and the "show me to way to go home" song
And ill play it ALL day long until " Im tired and I wanna go to bed"!
Quoted from Only_Pinball:That has not been my experience. My kids (now 22 and 27) have always had pins in the house growing up. Both always respected the machines and my oldest now has her own pin in her appointment.
This was months ago, my lineup is changed but my daughter LOVES the games. Will even pull up her stool and watch me play.
Quoted from Only_Pinball:This is like a flashback for me! My daughter has been playing since her arms could get around the machine. She also had a step stool like your daughter. As I mentioned she is now 27 and has a LOTR at home (wedding gift from me) and plays in tournaments. She also started the local Belles and Chimes chapter and putting on another tournament in a few weeks. Pinball has been great for our family. Nice to see that you seem to be on a similar path!
Gotta keep it going!!! That’s an awesome wedding gift ! Yeah she’s in a “ Spider-Man “ phase so I “accidentally” showed her VENOM so ….. yeah. But my money is being saved for JAWS or BTTF . Whenever that happens .
Quoted from Only_Pinball:Hunt one down on location. Me and my kids have driven all over for pins and always make it an adventure.
There’s a few places on Long Island that opened up in the last couple of years. We had NOTHING out here so it’s pretty awesome. Hopefully when she grows up she can mop everyone up in the women’s tournaments 
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Quoted from RA77:Top of wish list forever.
Really would like to see this happen in the near future.
Hoping there is a designer at Stern Pinball that wants to take it on.
Vic Rattlehead is perfect mascot for crazy taunting callouts.
Dave Mustaine would be awesome for callouts as well.
Suggested start for setlist for the most awesome metal pin with technical excellence
in no particular order, juke box a must as well please !
Symphony of Destruction
In My Darkest Hour”/“Hook in Mouth
Hangar 18
Countdown To Extinction
She Wolf
Sweating bullets
Skin o' my Teeth
Into the lungs of hell
Five Magics
Dawn Patrol
A Tout Le Monde
Poisonous shadows
Peace Sells
Tornado of souls
Train of consequences
Foreclosure of a dream
Trust
This was my life
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Funny you say this 2 of my favorite bands get crapped on constantly because the singer " sounds weird". RUSH and Megadeth! "Oh, I'll be the first in line" For a Megadeth pin.
Quoted from MrBigg:I just love pinball, some are for me, some are not, but they all have something that I love... flippers, a silver ball, and a moment away from life's burdens.
This 100%
This is my escape from BS daily life stuff. Keep it positive!
Quoted from Aurich:Just like all the 'psychics', nobody remembers their dumb predictions unless they guess one right, and then suddenly it's "see I told you so".
Kind of like a meteorologist. 50% chance of rain. Cant be wrong!
frankmac profile pics are slowly getting more disturbing hahah
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Quoted from beltking:I’m 99% sure they are doing more stranger premiums but with new art this time. Gonna be a while yet prob a year at least.
You think its going to be that long out? I mean there has been a lot of "talk" about this lately. I try to take everything with a grain of salt. But I pray to CROM every night that this gets announced by next month or November.
Plus didn't that guy who just broke a world record for longest game play Stranger Things?
Dont mind me....
1j1pyb (resized).jpgQuoted from SantaEatsCheese:Monthly Reminder, Next Cornerstone Stern pin due out around 21 November 2023. This is based solely off of their previous release schedule. Please see note quoted above that the likely Novemberish pin will likely not be Pro/Premium/LE. This is an unscientific approach, but it did predict the release of Venom to the day.
Still think they are going to keep doing the " home style " stuff? I'm hoping you're right about the vault thing.
Quoted from SantaEatsCheese:I can forsee a couple things assuming they release a new pin that is not pro/premium/le.
1. Godzilla Homestyle Pin. Their most popular pin ever. They have all the assets and art. They would just have to crank out a new playfield design. Stern has to keep the factory running somehow and they have not released a new home game since JP... which was excellent for what it is.
2. Vault. Most likely a Stranger things but they could come out of left field with something crazy like a Tron vault with LCD art... although this is unlikely they've never done it).
3. New Kaminkow pin like BM66, EHOH, or Beatles. Would be a premium/le pin. Could be Jaws, but I don't see that being the theme. I think if it is Kaminkow it would be something we don't expect. I could see them doing something like a reskin of Quicksilver into another older band pin like they did with Seawitch/Beatles.
4. New "LE" runs of a few pins. Godzilla Monster Edition (now with glitter!), Goldfinger 60th... something like what they just did with JP... but I think they will liekly wait a while before they do another rerun of an LE.
If you put a gun up to my head I'd say 40% chance homestyle pin, 30% chance vault of something we really want (ST/TRON), 20% Kaminkow Pin (Jaws?), 10% new LE run of pins.
Don't get me wrong I think there will be more LE runs as a course of business for Stern, but I think it will be in addition to whatever they have cooked up in November to get us to open our wallets for Christmas time.
I just sold my RUSH and am itching to pull the trigger on something, trying to stay strong for what I "think" is coming out and soon.
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Quoted from Vespula:Why? It's a Stern.
And on the pricing discussion, it's not going to surprise me if it's 13K premium and 15k LE to keep this crazy higher price desensitization going and pushing the market boundaries with the narrative that 'hey, this is different, it's special, It's what you asked for, more expensive bom, smaller run, and a vault!'
We'll see, I have my price points if its over that ill look for something else. Simple.
Quoted from Grantman:Correct. One of my dealers just emailed me back and said they haven't heard anything from Stern yet.
I know nothing about this stuff but are the dealers allowed to say anything before STERN does? Honest question.
Quoted from pinmister:Right now it is speculative info. Dealers do not have an official announcement and why would they. They just released Venom and they are trying to capitalize on Venom sales not Stranger Things. Just like a car dealer trying to sell 2023 models right before 2024 arrive-there is no mention of 2024 while trying to get rid of 2023 models. Unless Stern is struggling with current sales I can't see them making an official announcement for another month or so-they need more time to try and push Venom sales.
True but they did announce another GOTG run, so I don't know what to believe.
Quoted from underlord:Line up and pay. Limited time run of 2-3 years only or until you’ll are milked dry.
For the guy smashing the F5 key…stop it. You’re better than this.
* raises hand* that was me 
But I’d like to think THIS is what made the difference
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Quoted from darkryder:You and me both! My life and pinball collection would be complete and could die a happy man LOL. Bring on the Megadeth!
https://youtube.com/clip/Ugkx-IrzhNqZtmwa8vyx-7UgzB5QfPOhoyYC?si=3KQL8_DB0KKBIfBt
Quoted from RA77:My modest VH collection.
Makes my head spin thinking I have had these for over 30 years.
Love some Diver Down, Intruder would thump.
Most tracks from the albums Van Halen and 1984 would be epic on a new Stern Pinball.
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Top 3
Light up the Sky
House of Pain
Atomic Punk
As far as Spike 3 what's everyone else thinking? Matrix bio ports ( head jacks )?
Quoted from Happy81724:Yeah, for sure. It’s been around since the mid 90s but spans larger age groups with it being a hit on the Nintendo consoles and card games. Highest grossing franchise of all time. No brainer for a pin especially on location
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Damn! never knew. Winnie the Pooh still holding strong too.
Quoted from Wmsfan-GAP:I bought 4 of these decks at $110 each. I sold two around the $500 mark still sealed. I still have two that are sealed…..
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* looks at my stocks*
* looks at pok'emon swag*
So it has been written....
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Quoted from Ballderdash:Now if he said the game Skate or Die then we could debate nostalgia.
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Oh god this makes me feel old . I remember me and my brother playing this till our hands hurt.
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Quoted from RA77:Well this is one time i hope you are incorrect mr mnpinball.
There is some excellent John Carpenter films that would convert to pinball by Stern very nicely.
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All 3 of those
throwing money.gifQuoted from Keylime:Buddy at the bar said something about "Tony Hawk's Pro Skater" being the next Stern. With Pokemon later this year. I told him to go home and get that shit out of here because my millennial heart can't take it. That would be too amazing. The soundtrack from THPS would be absolutely killer. Tough to incorporate skateboarding into a pinball game imo though. Vert ramps would break the glass and grind rails would be tough to work in... imagine the THPS grind sound effect as your ball returns to your flipper on the wireform. That would be pretty cool.
Pokemon would be nuts. I can only dream of the artwork. If Zombie Yeti did it but toned down the "crazy" factor. Tried to stay closer to the show's animation.... The lady who voiced Ash is still around right? I'd be in absolute heaven. Pokemon is pretty cool tho. Couple scoops could be poke mart and poke centers to visit after tough battle. Wonder because of the original movie coming up soon if it'll be based on that. Fighting Mewtwo as a final wizard mode could be cool. I'm just excited to see pokemon artwork on a pinball machine. My fingers crossed we get a lavender town Premium with Gengar Haunter and Ghastly on there. All purple and black would be SO cool.
As kick ass as the THPS sound tracks were I always liked the SSX series soundtracks.
Quoted from iceman44:That’s why pinball will die off eventually.
My kids don’t give a F.
Virtual reality, PS5, Xbox etc
I’m getting the new Apple Vision Pro.
Not enough Millenials and GenZ will ever care about pinball.
Don't say that! I'm already worried about whos going to take care of my Monchhichi collection.
So my 5 year old still loves playing pinball I'm hoping it at least becomes an " old pastime " with Dad as she gets older.
Quoted from iceman44:Had to get a Golden Tee and Big Buck just to hang with the husband/boyfriends. Crazy
I JUST sold both of those! So I can feed my pin habit. I miss Golden Tee and down the road will probably get one back.
Quoted from TheLaw:I sold Black Knight & Halloween which were my wife's favorite. Every time a game leaves she says "that's the one I like so obviously it's leaving."
Then I remind her that her "liking it" was racking up 3 plays a year.
haha yup. I get the " why did you sell that one"!?!?!? And like you said , about the number of plays.....smh.
That being said I would LOVE a BKSOR Pro. Fast fun game.
Quoted from Apollo18:New Metallica. Cool.
It’s the only way it makes sense.
Why would Metallica re-up the license instead of asking for a completely new game?
I always said, fans who know Metallica, know they’ll push for Metallica 2 pin.
That said. Hope they stay away from the latest album (whatever it’s called) and St Anger. Just omit those albums please, they were garbage.
Keep to songs from the early stuff,
Kill ‘em all, lightning. Puppets. Justice.
Even Load & Reload are alright.
Death magnetic was great !
The Fewer songs it has the from Black album, the better it will sound.
Quoted from Pin_Fandango:I love the Black album.
Whatever route they go all I need is Jason on the screen doing this the whole time and I'm good.
2bplop.gifQuoted from K9Marshal:So without having to go back through pages of rants about what people "want" as the next stern pin......are there are viable rumors out there besides the new Metallica rumor. Need to know if I should be prepared for the Q2 cornerstone announcement
A lot of speculation/momentum on John wick and Pokémon .
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Quoted from TreyBo69:also a Zamboni that eats the ball
Quoted from CoolCatPinball:It had BETTER eat the damn ball. Missed opportunity if not, and I'm out!
Ok that’s it ….
IMG_4309.gifQuoted from Rizmo:Apparently these are the rumored games from Stern. If true there is only one on here I would want. Hopefully others will think different than myself
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Indy, easily. I'm afraid they will put in lame songs in Metallica that will grate on me real quick.
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Quoted from Sinistarrett:You guys know about Here Come the Mummies? If not you have to check them out on youtube, you will not be disappointed. I would 100% buy a HCTM pin.
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Quoted from Zen_Monkey:Transformers theme could sell . get peter cullen to do the call outs and it would “print money”.
Plenty of inspiration for mechs, Danger on design I could see it working. It’s a known IP from all the shitty movies and the toys still sell. The sound of a transformation is iconic.
would take a good design though or it will be written off with the comic fatigue
Always thought Star Scream and Soundwave had cooler voices.
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Quoted from Whistles:This was a major sticking point even upon release- some were mad they liked this game so much but would not be able to ever have it in the house.
This is the fight in my house right now with TCM and having a little kid.
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