Don't think there'll be another Elwin for a while, I'd have thought Gomez, Eddy and Danger before Elwin

The answer is cost and space. I can afford multiple $60 games (plus subscriptions, map packs, etc.) without blinking. But buying $30k + of new machines in a year is not attainable for most people. Then the space aspect is I can't have 20 of them at a time, maybe only 2-5 for most people. So you have to be selective.

$60 games verse $10000 games, not the same.

Yup. Google the Osborne effect.

Gary Stern is famous for answering “What’s your favorite pinball machine?” with whatever game is currently on the production line.

As much as I would like to know titles/timelines in advance I doubt we’ll ever see it from Stern or anyone else.

People spend thousands on micro transactions. Why keep it a secret. I feel bad for anyone who bought a Rush without playing it.

I doubt they would tell us whats coming too. It would be nice to know. This is one of the only fields where they keep it secret till a week before it goes on sale. Could you imagine if car companies did this, just hide everything a week before you can pick one up

The most successful company in the history of the world (and with similarish price points) is super secretive and only announces hardware when it is ready to release.

Why? It's a fantastic game.

To each their own. They dropped the ball hard with Rush.

Does everything have to be so polarizing? Rush is pretty good, neither terrible nor outstandingly exceptional.

I get the theme doesn't appeal to everyone, just like zeppelin or beatles, but dropping the ball seems a little exaggerated.

the theme is not the problem. It’s the layout of the game. It is the ball launch that just drains it down the middle. It’s poor design that on scoop. I believe they rushed on Rush

It IS ok for games to just be 'good', or 'pretty decent'. Not every release has to be considered a masterpiece of all things within. Rush is.....a pretty decent game, and there is nothing wrong with that.

I have never had this happen. Someone set that game up poorly I think.

The scoop fix was simple that someone figured out pretty quickly by simply using rubber. The ball launch just needs to be tweaked with settings or pitch. These things can be hard for some people though. They shouldn't' own pinball machines.

Agreed. I get SDTM shots maybe 1% of the time, but a simple nudge puts the ball into the pops. Current scoop fix is perfectly fine. But as others have said, minus the theme, this machine is pretty alright. For a fan, this machine is excellent.

Your newbness is showing.

It's a Pinside top 20 game and moving higher. I'd say you're in the minority view.

True - lots of folks thought they wanted Toys but that kinda blew up once it got revealed. Decent looking game but no where near the hype folks had for it.

Yeah, a full plunge to the left orbit should land in the pops and a short plunge sets up the skillshot. Agreed that this is super annoying if the playfield isn't level, but it's not a fault of the design.

No offense but if Rush is a top 20 game then those ratings don't mean a darn thing lol. Off to vote!

I wish Pinside would take the average and that would be a games score.

Next music pin Stern Pinball

So many angles/approaches this title can take,
A great opportunity with passionate design a little innovation and freedom/direct input from band, Megadeth could be awesome enough to rival GnR.

https://www.guitarworld.com/news/gibson-dave-mustaine-flying-v-exp-rust-in-peace

Its just a bad game. I know they are from your mother land of Canada and have to defend the machine. Next you are going to tell me that SCTV was better than SNL

I'm sorry that you have awful taste and know nothing about setting up a pin. Maybe eventually things will turn around for ya there bud.

How was this kept under wraps. Stern is good.

SCTV is better than SNL.

https://www.knapparcade.org/post/strange-nft-themed-pinball-machine-makes-debut

Just a contract game bare reskin of the Heavy Metal layout with minor changes and a full color screen instead of DMD. Nothing to get too excited about unless you find Stern's "The Pin" line exciting. This is only 1/4 step above that because of the full Spike2 screen.

Lol on some Facebook thread a "Karen" went totally off on this theme, which was kind of hilarious. For that reason alone, I'm in. Plus the art is kind of cool..

If i were rich...

Meh. All these contract pins reek of cheapness (not price, quality). And who was pining for an NFT pinball theme? No one I know...

But the release timing is "perfect" with crypto crashing across the board and flatlining NFT sales the last few weeks.

Well there are a lot of people in this hobby who treat pinball like it’s investing in NFTs. Might as well make a game that REALLY caters to the flippers!

If you say something like that you have to support that view and you haven't done that with any substance.

Exactly. It's introduces pinball to a whole new group. Smart!

Im not rich

For that reason, Im out!

Not an easy game for most, especially if you have no skill and just slap the ball around to keep it in play. I don’t think you’ve played enough pinball to say Rush is a bad game.

A cartoon monkey pinball machine based on a trendy digital asset collection, and suddenly it's raining Karens. Pinballers are dead to me.

I’d take the monkey game over any of those theme wise…pretty over the 50 year old crap of nostalgia and classic rock bands.

I think pretty alright is an apt description. The game was more fun than I thought it would be at first glance. I actually like it more than Turtles and think it shoots a bit better than GOTG (had TMNT, still have GOTG, I have a bit of a Borg problem). The left shot behind the drops is easier than the Yondu or Lair shots which was a nice surprise. I would happily take it any day over over a Led Zep.

Took me 6 weeks to sell my Rush Premium for a loss of over $1k.

I think he is correct.

That would be because there is NIB supply and more coming - not because it's a bad game.

Pinball is like any other market in the world, price is all about supply and demand.

Yep. This June run is the last RUSH run for the rest of the year so prices are about to be as low as they're going to get on the secondary market by the end of July. I'd bet by October, NIB is reselling for above MSRP and "used" is MSRP. Especially if/when a topper comes out or when code goes 1.0.

That is, of course, unless the new cornerstone eats RUSH's lunch. The new hotness almost always eats the old hotness's lunch unless the old hotness is GZ in which case it's a runaway nuclear reactor that ain't cooling off!

In a "normal" pinball market you should never be able to sell a NIB for as much or more than you paid as long as they are still making them. Once they stop, the value will rise to what the market feels its worth and sit there. Current trends will not be the new normal. The other thing is even though you see all these games for sale you'll see tons of "wish you were closer" posts. Unless you live in a large population area, its still hard to move a pin unless its super popular or a rock bottom deal.

Its scary to see how gullible some people can be. It said in that story the scammer tried to collect 3k for a machine. It should be red flags when you see Pros going for around $7k then someone says hey I have a Pro $3000 NIB. That should set off alarm bells. I like to mess with the scammers and just waste their time. Then at least they can not be scamming others.

Flippers be like..

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