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*~*THE~NEXT~STERN*~*

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#19951 2 years ago
Quoted from KnockerPTSD:

You know anyone paying $8,500 for an Aerosmith pro? My point stands. This one near me hasnt been able to sell for 2mo. now
Edit: talking in Cdn pesos again.
($7,500cdn = $5,870usd)
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It’s Canada and 2 months only. Not sure how your point stands. If it was a Rush pin it would be sold already. Different countries have different taste. Men At Work is not as popular here either.

Again Aerosmith doesn’t pop up for sale too often. If it sucked there would be more for sale and sitting. So your point does not stand by only giving one example. That’s an outlier. So my point stands more than yours.

#19952 2 years ago
Quoted from skink91:

To be fair, in all of your examples Aerosmith is the oldest game shown.

Aerosmith is the only one on that list you cant still get NIB (I think). That should raise the price. Used Pro models seem to sell for less than their cost NIB cost since they are still being made.

#19953 2 years ago
Quoted from Shapeshifter:

Also Stern look at prices of Mando LE on the used market and it's clear at the moment that there is a lot of excess money sloshing around in the pinball market.

That's why they should make more LEs. Would anyone besides flippers mind if they made 1,000 vs. 500 LEs?

#19954 2 years ago

One other thing about the prices listed per pin, it is an average and doesn’t reflect prices that are trending rapidly. So events such as a $500 increase in Stern’s pro models tends to raise the price of past Stern pro models by about the same. That is the one good outcome of a market with rising prices, older model pins (more than 1 years old) tend to increase in price too.

#19955 2 years ago
Quoted from hiker2099:

Can we please get a 007 Bond game...Player could advance through the different actors who've played bond or it could be straight up Bond vs Spectre.

A 50th anniversary James Bond game would have made sense but that didn't happen. 2022 is the 60th anniversary so hopefully they are planning on making one. It is their last chance while there are "only" 6 James Bond actors across all 25 (official) movies since Daniel Craig is done and they are going to name a new JB actor soon.

#19956 2 years ago
Quoted from hiker2099:

Can we please get a 007 Bond game...Player could advance through the different actors who've played bond or it could be straight up Bond vs Spectre.

I feel like there are way too many films to include the entire franchise. The different actors is a neat idea.... buuuut overall I think there will be a lot of content missing that won't satisfy anyone. Best bet for success would be to focus on the Craig era -- sorry if you're fans of others, just makes the most commercial sense.

#19957 2 years ago

Nice to have original themes. They show creativity. Like Funhouse, Roadshow, White water, Whirlwind. I like all pins. Just saying.

#19958 2 years ago
Quoted from BasementFacts:

I feel like there are way too many films to include the entire franchise. The different actors is a neat idea.... buuuut overall I think there will be a lot of content missing that won't satisfy anyone. Best bet for success would be to focus on the Craig era -- sorry if you're fans of others, just makes the most commercial sense.

Especially with his last movie soon to be released...

#19959 2 years ago

For all you Rush fans:

https://www.newswire.ca/news-releases/rush-announces-beer-collaboration-with-toronto-s-henderson-brewery-837519475.html

If you don’t get your Rush pin you can drown your sorrows with their beer. But I hope you get both.

#19960 2 years ago

Well same goes for Megadeth

https://www.megadethbeer.com/

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#19961 2 years ago
Quoted from BasementFacts:

I feel like there are way too many films to include the entire franchise. The different actors is a neat idea.... buuuut overall I think there will be a lot of content missing that won't satisfy anyone. Best bet for success would be to focus on the Craig era -- sorry if you're fans of others, just makes the most commercial sense.

I actually think Craig is my second favorite (Next to Connery). You are probably right, they would need to pick one actor and do their movies. Maybe if they did a cool comic art version and it be a 007 recruitment game lol. Then you could have Daniel Craig or Judi Dench do call outs and the whole game could be going through the trials to become the next 007? Stretching here. lol.

#19962 2 years ago

This is why I ordered a few bottles of #9 whiskey - I will likely be waiting awhile for my Slipknot machine to get made...

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#19963 2 years ago

I can't wait to put a Godzilla LE in the gameroom, next to THE sign. **links to the sign thread below if you missed this last year**

https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/neon-signs-show-us-your-glow/page/22#post-5772894

http://elephanteater.com/15294/godzilla-neon
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#19964 2 years ago
Quoted from gambit3113:

I can't wait to put a Godzilla LE in the gameroom, next to THE sign. **links to the sign thread below if you missed this last year**
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/neon-signs-show-us-your-glow/page/22#post-5772894
http://elephanteater.com/15294/godzilla-neon
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Freaking love that sign! Bookmarking for if I get this pin, going in the barcade. Thanks for sharing!

#19965 2 years ago
Quoted from GoodOmens:

I heard through my distributer the premiums come with a bag of screws that are left for the new owner to figure out where they go! It's part of the new operator mode.

It also has a separate bag of drywall screws for the route techs.

#19966 2 years ago
Quoted from gambit3113:

I can't wait to put a Godzilla LE in the gameroom, next to THE sign. **links to the sign thread below if you missed this last year**
https://pinside.com/pinball/forum/topic/neon-signs-show-us-your-glow/page/22#post-5772894
http://elephanteater.com/15294/godzilla-neon
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The most incredible neon ever. Is it possible to get another made? (maybe a Pinside members only exclusive).

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#19967 2 years ago
Quoted from PilotPinball:

Is it possible to get another made?

A good neon shop can make it. It would be pricey.

I looked into a Ghostbusters animated sign some years ago and was quoted $2300.

LTG : )

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#19968 2 years ago
Quoted from PilotPinball:

The most incredible neon ever. Is it possible to get another made? (maybe a Pinside members only exclusive).

It's a one-off for sure. He said he wouldn't do it again, but I don't know.

...and yeah, it wasn't cheap. It's more than 5 feet long.

#19969 2 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

A good neon shop can make it. It would be pricey.
I looked into a Ghostbusters animated sign some years ago and was quoted $2300.
LTG : )[quoted image]

Whoa, that's also amazing. I'm from Vegas and have no neon in my game room.

#19970 2 years ago
Quoted from gambit3113:

It's a one-off for sure. He said he wouldn't do it again, but I don't know.
...and yeah, it wasn't cheap. It's more than 5 feet long.

That's a bit big. I'd be looking for the 3 foot version. I'd also change the city as I used to live in Kansai, Japan. Thanks!

#19971 2 years ago
Quoted from PilotPinball:

That's a bit big. I'd be looking for the 3 foot version. I'd also change the city as I used to live in Kansai, Japan. Thanks!

Making it smaller and animated would be virtually impossible, I would almost guarantee. He told me he broke a ton of glass trying to bend the scales on his back and some of the really intricately interlaced glass on this thing. Smaller would only be harder. Look at this spiderweb:

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#19972 2 years ago
Quoted from gambit3113:

Making it smaller and animated would be virtually impossible,

I wondered if possible. And if it would still look good. And making it smaller wouldn't necessarily make it cheaper.

LTG : )

#19973 2 years ago
Quoted from gambit3113:

Making it smaller and animated would be virtually impossible, I would almost guarantee. He told me he broke a ton of glass trying to bend the scales on his back and some of the really intricately interlaced glass on this thing. Smaller would only be harder. Look at this spiderweb:[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Its beautiful. How do I get one? Also godzilla in Roadshow in DMD animation.
I am in on Godzilla LE, also.

#19974 2 years ago
Quoted from Xdetroit:

When do we expect the next game will be shown to the public?

Shown in Sept, be played in public for the first time at Pinball Expo in Chicago.
**Unless delayed...

#19975 2 years ago
Quoted from LTG:

A good neon shop can make it. It would be pricey.
I looked into a Ghostbusters animated sign some years ago and was quoted $2300.
LTG : )[quoted image]

Daaaaaang; the first time pricey may have been used correctly

#19976 2 years ago
Quoted from gambit3113:

Making it smaller and animated would be virtually impossible, I would almost guarantee. He told me he broke a ton of glass trying to bend the scales on his back and some of the really intricately interlaced glass on this thing. Smaller would only be harder. Look at this spiderweb:[quoted image][quoted image][quoted image]

Whelp, there goes that idea lmao; amazing, enjoy your 1-of-a-kind!

#19977 2 years ago
Quoted from GravitaR:

Shown in Sept, be played in public for the first time at Pinball Expo in Chicago.
**Unless delayed...

Where did you get this? Stern doesn't show games them have them played for the first time a month later. Stern will show the game, then have some games shipping almost immediately after they show it.

#19978 2 years ago
Quoted from KnockerPTSD:

Because my only point was that Aerosmith is not a popular title.

I loved Aerosmith. It may not be popular but it is fun to play.

#19979 2 years ago
Quoted from zr11990:

I loved Aerosmith. It may not be popular but it is fun to play.

Its a decent game. Im just not a fan of their music past the 70s. Lyrics got kinda silly in 80s and 90s

#19980 2 years ago

On second thought…. 007 could be done in a way where each actor has a mode corresponding to their greatest villain e.g. Connery-Dr. No, money penny/Q/M could be multipliers, bumpers could be Bond girls, Astin martin toy, multiball=Thunderball. Return lanes=gadgets.

#19981 2 years ago
Quoted from Ty-Arnold:

Where did you get this? Stern doesn't show games them have them played for the first time a month later. Stern will show the game, then have some games shipping almost immediately after they show it.

Batman '66 would like a word with this assertion.

Shown in a roped-off area in blinky light mode and unplayable (except when some kid slipped under the ropes and exposed it was basically blinky light mode) because they couldn't get it ready in time for their big party. Playable later.

#19982 2 years ago

This…with real classic colors.

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#19983 2 years ago
Quoted from RA77:

MEGADETH is still my preference for Sterns next killer music pin.
For Ozzy
I could wait till next December year , what unreal birthday party that would be \m/

Better hurry up and get those callouts recorded please Stern
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There's plenty of material for Ozzy through the years. Involving sound bytes.

#19984 2 years ago
Quoted from hiker2099:

On second thought…. 007 could be done in a way where each actor has a mode corresponding to their greatest villain e.g. Connery-Dr. No, money penny/Q/M could be multipliers, bumpers could be Bond girls, Astin martin toy, multiball=Thunderball. Return lanes=gadgets.

It may not be as difficult as some think for a Bond Pin to have some sort of mode associated with each actor or movie from each actor as the mode. They for the most part pulled it with the slot machine.

Amazon bought the franchise this year but the Broccoli/Wilson family still has final say in direction of franchise. They do license an awful lot of Bond merchandise so never say never again!

#19985 2 years ago
Quoted from Psw757:

Amazon bought the franchise this year

I didn’t know that. I would think that is promising.

#19986 2 years ago
Quoted from hiker2099:

I didn’t know that. I would think that is promising.

I think they acquired the portion that MGM owned and then the two families share the other half, who knows how is structured though.

Check out the slots, if a pin could approach that level of asset usage it would be fantastic. I think there are 6-8 movies they used.

Edit - I also always thought this was going to be the next Kapow title. It’s a license that is right up his alley and he was involved with the 007 licensing for the slot machine.

#19987 2 years ago
Quoted from hiker2099:

On second thought…. 007 could be done in a way where each actor has a mode corresponding to their greatest villain e.g. Connery-Dr. No, money penny/Q/M could be multipliers, bumpers could be Bond girls, Astin martin toy, multiball=Thunderball. Return lanes=gadgets.

There's no way Stern will pay for all those likenesses .
They'll probably just end up going down the comic book route again

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#19988 2 years ago
Quoted from screaminr:

There's no way Stern will pay for all those likenesses .
They'll probably just end up going down the comic book route again
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I am pretty sure the studio owns the likeness. So if Amazon bought the rights, I would think the buck stops with Amazon as far as likeness.

#19989 2 years ago
Quoted from hiker2099:

I am pretty sure the studio owns the likeness. So if Amazon bought the rights, I would think the buck stops with Amazon as far as likeness.

In all seriousness , they will probably just go with Daniel Craig which sucks , because they made their movies serious , to try to compete with the Jason Bourne movies .
No more Pussy Galore

#19990 2 years ago
Quoted from hiker2099:

I am pretty sure the studio owns the likeness. So if Amazon bought the rights, I would think the buck stops with Amazon as far as likeness.

Just thinking about a few different recent and old titles, its clear that can be all over the map depending on how the original contracts were written and/or how amicable/expensive the actors are to new work/use of their likeness. Stranger Things is basically a full integration. AIQ rides the timing of the movie but doesn't use the actors. JP (Stern) is clearly the 90s movie but the only original likeness/voice is Nedry. The character art in BTTF (Data East) is so strikingly different from the actors that it seems deliberate to avoid any claim of likeness.

Closest I could see to actually having all 6 (or 7 if they include the next) in a bond game is something like Doctor Who. A drawing that kinda resembles each attached to a perk/objective, but not extended visuals/voice acting. 3 scenarios that all seem more likely to navigate the licensing gauntlet are a hand drawn generic bond vs villian(s), a theme inspired by the Craig films with some callouts from the original actors for Bond, M or Q or a they use the next movie/actor for a tight integration that comes out near the release of the film.

#19991 2 years ago
Quoted from craif:

Just thinking about a few different recent and old titles, its clear that can be all over the map depending on how the original contracts were written and/or how amicable/expensive the actors are to new work/use of their likeness. Stranger Things is basically a full integration. AIQ rides the timing of the movie but doesn't use the actors. JP (Stern) is clearly the 90s movie but the only original is likeness/voice Nedry. The character art in BTTF (Data East) is so strikingly different from the actors that it seems deliberate to avoid any claim of likeness.
Closest I could see to actually having all 6 (or 7 if they include the next) in a bond game is something like Doctor Who. A drawing that kinda resembles attached to a perk/objective, but not visuals/voice acting. 3 scenarios that all seem more are hand drawn generic bond vs villian(s), a theme inspired by the Craig films with some callouts original actors for Bond, M or Q or a they use the next movie/actor for a tight integration that comes out near the release of the film.

Not sure if anyone has seen these yet but loaded with assets, video clips actual actor dialogue, music etc...
It is possibly if they were able to pull off for a slot.
Here is link to all the different versions

https://www.sggaming.com/games/scientific-games/james-bond-game-series

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#19992 2 years ago

Choosing the right Bond is difficult. I am pretty sure Stern will select one Bond film and license that. This approach is consistent with how they operate and would mean a conglomerate Bond pin is unlikely. This is a shame as what I think we want is all the Bonds, Villains, Bond Girls, Theme songs etc. That would be too expensive and Stern keeps their licenses simple -as in one film. And because it is easier to choose a film from the 60’s or 70’s in order to get the actor sign offs and music released without much hassle, time or cost, it makes sense for Stern to take that approach.

Looks like : Goldfinger 1964, Thunderball 1965, Diamonds are Forever 1971, Live and Let Die 1972, Tommorrow Never Dies 1997, Die Another Day 2002 and Casino Royale 2006 are contenders as each has been licensed on a slot machine. When the candidates are compared against the top 5 Bond films of all time, Goldfinger and Casino Royal are still standing. Of these, only Goldfinger is from the 60’s and that is why the Stern pin will be GOLDFINGER! Interestingly, rotten tomatoes listed top three Bond films are from 60’s. And Goldfinger tops that list too.

It looks like a great fit for a pinball machine also. Following is the movie’s plot:
The powerful tycoon Auric Goldfinger has initiated Operation Grand Slam, a cataclysmic scheme to raid Fort Knox and obliterate the world economy. James Bond, armed with his specially equipped Aston Martin, must stop the plan by overcoming several outrageous adversaries.

#19993 2 years ago
Quoted from jeffspinballpalace:

Choosing the right Bond is difficult. I am pretty sure Stern will select one Bond film and license that. This approach is consistent with how they operate and would mean a conglomerate Bond pin is unlikely. This is a shame as what I think we want is all the Bonds, Villains, Bond Girls, Theme songs etc. That would be too expensive to license everything. Much easier to choose a film from the 70’s or 80’s and get the actor sign offs and music released without so much hassle, time and cost.

Pro could be more recent bonds Craig and Brosnan, premium villain art and Bond girls, LE could be the classics Moore/Connery.

#19994 2 years ago
Quoted from Psw757:

Not sure if anyone has seen these yet but loaded with assets, video clips actual actor dialogue, music etc...
It is possibly if they were able to pull off for a slot.
Here is link to all the different versions
https://www.sggaming.com/games/scientific-games/james-bond-game-series[quoted image]

The fact they pulled that deal off at all shows it's possible, but the amount of money in the slot industry is truly staggering. In just the month Mohegan Sun posted that ad their slot machines took in 47.6 million (edit: 42.5 mil, 47.6 was the previous October) more than they paid out, let alone all the other games they run.

Excluding peak covid, that's a pretty standard month for them over the last 10 years, and that's just one casino. I'm sure if someone called up Stern and asked for a quote on a custom run 5000 LE's, they could have pretty much any theme they wanted.

Warning PDF: https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/DCP/GAMING/pdfs/Mosltweb-pdf.pdf

#19995 2 years ago

Casino Royale with a poker hand aspect would be neat.

#19996 2 years ago
Quoted from craif:

The fact they pulled that deal off at all shows it's possible, but the amount of money in the slot industry is truly staggering. In just the month Mohegan Sun posted that ad their slot machines took in 47.6 million (edit: 42.5 mil, 47.6 was the previous October) more than they paid out, let alone all the other games they run.
Excluding peak covid, that's a pretty standard month for them over the last 10 years, and that's just one casino. I'm sure if someone called up Stern and asked for a quote on a custom run 5000 LE's, they could have pretty much any theme they wanted.
Warning PDF: https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/DCP/GAMING/pdfs/Mosltweb-pdf.pdf

Money Talks , I'm surprised pinball gets the themes they do with how limited the market is .
Pinball is actually cheap compared to the collector watch market , I'm currently watching on YouTube .
Check out ProducerMichael on YouTube .
Considering how much is put into a pinball machine , I think we are doing very well .

#19997 2 years ago
Quoted from craif:

The fact they pulled that deal off at all shows it's possible, but the amount of money in the slot industry is truly staggering. In just the month Mohegan Sun posted that ad their slot machines took in 47.6 million (edit: 42.5 mil, 47.6 was the previous October) more than they paid out, let alone all the other games they run.
Excluding peak covid, that's a pretty standard month for them over the last 10 years, and that's just one casino. I'm sure if someone called up Stern and asked for a quote on a custom run 5000 LE's, they could have pretty much any theme they wanted.
Warning PDF: https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/DCP/GAMING/pdfs/Mosltweb-pdf.pdf

I get it but your looking at all the slots brought that much in and there are a ton of them so it’s a much larger scale when talking about casinos.

If Stern can build 4-5k of Bond pins at an average price of say 7k across the 3 models your talking 28-35 million.

These slots pretty much have all the assets, the pin doesn’t really need to have everything as it would be impossible to use it all. So much content in all the Bond movies.

Maybe it’s something JJP would be better off pursuing if Stern isn’t already on it.

Love to see someone pull it off regardless of cost.

#19998 2 years ago
Quoted from PinMonk:

Batman '66 would like a word with this assertion.
Shown in a roped-off area in blinky light mode and unplayable (except when some kid slipped under the ropes and exposed it was basically blinky light mode) because they couldn't get it ready in time for their big party. Playable later.

I'm sure you are right. You definitely know a lot more about all this than I do. I know that stern will typically release a title then start shipping soon after. I was wondering if the OP had some information indicating that the next Stern title was not in September. It should be September.

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#19999 2 years ago

James Bond would probably be the most expensive pin ever made, considering the mammoth licensing costs. Luckily, I don't care about any of that stuff so I made my own....virtually. 50 features to celebrate 50 years of Bond. At the time, the most ambitious pinball project I've ever worked on. Every song from all the films is in the game (selectable via a Jukebox function)...and I deliberately left out George Lazenby...the crap Bond.

Back in 2011, I was already using LCDs with movie clips in my games, and stuck the screen in the center of the playfield. Very cool.

Full ruleset on my website, if you fancy a gander.....https://speak1970.wixsite.com/slamspinballemporium/bond-50-rules

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#20000 2 years ago
Quoted from Ty-Arnold:

I'm sure you are right. You definitely know a lot more about all this than I do.

Not necessarily, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night...

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